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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Murry Wilson And Snow on: December 18, 2019, 03:59:30 PM
And now Goldmine premieres Snow’s take on “We’re Together Again”… https://www.goldminemag.com/news/goldmine-premieres-music-from-murry-wilson-snows-breakaway-ep

Well, that's about 100x more enjoyable than "Break Away". Nice version.
102  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Old Record Parade on: November 27, 2019, 02:40:55 PM
The most recent episode of Hawaii 5-0 kicked off with Larry William's "Slow Down" from 1958. It made me think of this thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJW7NOOtfH0
103  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 23, 2019, 10:30:42 AM
I thought it was going to be an entire box set of Feel Flows sessions.
Bring it on!
My first assumption that was that it would be a version of Feel Flows with a four-hour flute solo, spanning five CDs.
Feel Flows: Torture Edition!
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett's 'upcoming announcement' on: November 07, 2019, 10:13:10 AM
If there was going to be a physical release, we probably would have heard about it by now.
105  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Old Record Parade on: September 02, 2019, 06:20:23 AM
Ranked as the #3 song of 1959 by Billboard, it's been popping into my head all summer! It's infectious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPU-cvaKCM

It is indeed infectious! Lloyd Price recorded one of my all-time favourite r&b 45s, "Lawdy Miss Clawdy". Dating from 1952, it's more rock and roll than r&b to these ears. That's Fats Domino on piano (see PJ Riverdale's comment):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vre2POdgJbs

That's a great record, JK! Another one that I'm a big fan of is "Just Because". I first heard Lennon's version, then I tracked down Larry Williams' version, then, finally, Lloyd Price's original. I love them all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1c6af7LHo
106  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Old Record Parade on: September 01, 2019, 04:00:25 PM
Ranked as the #3 song of 1959 by Billboard, it's been popping into my head all summer! It's infectious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPU-cvaKCM
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: August 12, 2019, 11:52:43 AM
Am I the only one who doesn’t hear Carl supposedly say “shunshine” during Soulful Old Man Sunshine?

You don't hear it at 2:08?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcS8MmrYoYY
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 07, 2019, 09:42:45 AM
So I haven't heard that podcast, but if they're suggesting the vocals are the main dividing line between the two ...

They're not. If you're strapped for time just listen from 40:20 - 41:40.
109  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: Pacific Ocean Blue (Dennis Wilson) on: August 04, 2019, 07:40:45 AM
indefatigable 

JK, you've just expanded my vocabulary.
110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Peeves - The small things that grinds your gears listening to The Beach Boys on: July 29, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
I think God Only Knows ends badly. That repeating coda thing seems to come in too soon and as a bit of a cop-out from finishing the song in a better way

This must be the most controversial one here I think! Personally I consider that record perfection, but that's just these layman's ears  Smiley

I don't think GOK ends badly, but I have noticed how soon the coda comes in. It represents over 30% of the song.
111  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: July 27, 2019, 10:26:40 AM
Doves- Valley sounds like...oh, just click the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmaUlL0ggKg

Wow. LOL
112  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike working on yet another new album on: July 26, 2019, 08:54:39 AM
They're selling "Beach Boys" merchandise at shows now that is entirely designed based on Mike's solo album title and cover art:

It's the name of the tour, right?

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour/
113  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike working on yet another new album on: July 26, 2019, 08:39:31 AM
Apparently, BRI doesn't care and Mike has no shame.

Can you imagine: Memory Almost Full, The Beatles.
114  Smiley Smile Stuff / 'Rank the Tracks' / Re: Rank the tracks #9: Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) on: July 25, 2019, 04:55:46 PM
1. California Girls
2. Help Me, Rhonda
3. And Your Dream Comes True
4. Let Him Run Wild
5. You're So Good To Me
6. I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man

7. Salt Lake City
8. The Girl From New York City
9. Then I Kissed Her
10. Summer Means New Love
11. Amusement Parks U.S.A.

12. Girl Don't Tell Me
115  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Peeves - The small things that grinds your gears listening to The Beach Boys on: July 23, 2019, 05:43:13 PM
Mikes off key vocals on Santa Claus is coming to town. Right when he enters. I think he had a cold or something but sheesh. Brian just do it or give it away!

In case you haven't heard it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhPwQYNYwhc
116  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Peeves - The small things that grinds your gears listening to The Beach Boys on: July 22, 2019, 10:08:53 AM


When Mike Love bleats his way through a song. Just awful.  Thud

No kidding?
117  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Peeves - The small things that grinds your gears listening to The Beach Boys on: July 21, 2019, 12:49:39 PM
I love "A Casual Look" but damn does Mike's poorly double-tracked lead vocal come roaring in too loudly. You can't tell me that he wouldn't have sounded better single-tracked and tucked into the mix! I'd love to remix this song. His double-tracking sounds better when he's harmonizing with Al on "Oh darling can't you see that I'm going overseas..." but that's to be expected. He's singing softer and in a lower register. So, this is my pet peeve: Why the insistence on double-tracking the majority of Mike's leads as his voice began to decline in the 70s? The more upbeat the vocal, and the higher in his vocal range, the more the double-tracking seems to exasperate Mike's nasally tone. Think - "in Captain Cook fashion, I can't deny it, I want to spend my winters on the Kona coast in Hawaii". When I hear Mike sounding like that, I think the double-tracking is doing far more harm than good. He also has some sloppy double-tracked vocals in the 60s which I think probably could have sounded better single-tracked. Though, I get that this is largely subjective. One more example..."Rock And Roll Music". While it's kind of a rigid performance, I think Mike sounds good on the verses (single-tracked), but not so much on the choruses (double-tracked). The single mix helps by centering the backing vocals and therefore not exposing Mike so much on the choruses. IMO.

Additionally, I hate the "false start" bass in the intro of "Kona Coast".
118  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: July 19, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Here is something in this category that I posted about awhile back. I still think it sounds so incredibly similar that there's no way there wasn't a direct influence.

Just listened to the song "Your Love is King" by Sade from 1984.

http://youtu.be/k1ljpLQ1V6Y


The intro sounds almost identical to Brian's "I'm So Lonely" from 1 year later.

http://youtu.be/emKjSkUpDrk

I wonder if Brian (or one of the ISL studio musicians) was a Sade fan. Too close to be a coincidence, don'tcha all think?

I hear what you mean. I think both songs are in the same time signature as well. 12/8?

Btw, according to Wikipedia, "Your Love Is King" wasn't released in the US until 1985. Though, that doesn't mean they hadn't heard it.
119  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: July 19, 2019, 06:30:20 PM
there's a song on the lennon "double fantasy" album... one part of it sounds like "don't worry baby" 's verse "but she looks in my eyes and makes me realise"     don't remember the title...

Yeah, a lot of people seem to make this connection. It's "but when I see you darling, it's like we both are" in "(Just Like) Starting Over".

Funny, as much as I love Just Like Starting Over and Don’t Worry Baby, I don’t think I’ve ever heard it like that, not that I, denying it exists, I’ve just never heard the connection.

I hadn't made the connection either. Not until fans started pointing it out. Even now, I can't say that I think of one while listening to the other, but this is exactly the kind of thing I'm interested in!
120  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Bob Dylan Thread on: July 19, 2019, 11:51:08 AM
You are probably right on both counts. "I'm In Love" was a hit in the UK and I believe it was released, and also covered, in the US. That said, they may have both been influenced by an earlier usage or just independently written (without influence).

The Beatles' "I Should Have Known Better" is a possible candidate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5en2JMLA8Z0

Whoa, I had never made that connection! You know, John Lennon wrote both songs. George Martin produced both.

Embellishing on this, I see "Hello Little Girl", The Fourmost's first hit (the one before "I'm In Love"), is said to have been John Lennon's first compositlon, back in 1957:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CagR2GPqw

That link doesn't work for me in the US, so here's another one for anyone else who's interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psjPQT0cywU

Hey, it's even got the climactic "love, love, love" at 0:48 and "mind, mind, mind" at 1:13. Looks like we've stumbled upon an early, favored songwriting device of Lennon's. One which The Fourmost took ample advantage of.
121  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: July 19, 2019, 10:21:49 AM
Cool idea for a topic, B.E.. The one that immediately springs to my mind is Culture Club's "Karma Chameleon". The first three notes sound pretty well identical in tempo, pitch and timbre to the first three notes of "You're So Good To Me" but after that the two songs don't sound like each other at all! LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

Ah, I hear it!

there's a song on the lennon "double fantasy" album... one part of it sounds like "don't worry baby" 's verse "but she looks in my eyes and makes me realise"     don't remember the title...

Yeah, a lot of people seem to make this connection. It's "but when I see you darling, it's like we both are" in "(Just Like) Starting Over".
122  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: July 19, 2019, 09:04:05 AM
Are there any songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys song? It could be a similar lyric, melody, arrangement, key change, etc.

I'm currently revisiting Neil Young's discography after many years and an old favorite of mine "Out on the Weekend" now reminds me of "We'll Run Away". You may be scratching your head as to why that is, but the instrumentation stops playing for the first bar of this section here https://youtu.be/TuXMQQtcQ_U?t=92, providing the same effect as the backing track of "We'll Run Away" fading in after about a bar and a half (?) here https://youtu.be/bs_B6CMOZKY?t=28. I think it's a really cool effect. No doubt used in many other songs, but it's the Beach Boys that spring right to mind!
123  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Bob Dylan Thread on: July 19, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
You are probably right on both counts. "I'm In Love" was a hit in the UK and I believe it was released, and also covered, in the US. That said, they may have both been influenced by an earlier usage or just independently written (without influence).

The Beatles' "I Should Have Known Better" is a possible candidate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5en2JMLA8Z0

Whoa, I had never made that connection! You know, John Lennon wrote both songs. George Martin produced both.
124  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Bob Dylan Thread on: July 19, 2019, 07:20:58 AM
Speaking of Planet Waves, what are the chances Dylan heard The Fourmost's "I'm In Love"? Whenever I listen to "You Angel You', I think of this https://youtu.be/PoAr8Dcm-5M?t=59. It's quite possible I am the only one. LOL

So far I'm one of the vast majority. Grin But I'll give them both another listen later--I may be missing something vital. Wink

Here's "You Angel You" for those who are interested:

https://vimeo.com/312355743

JK, thanks for posting "You Angel You". I'm really only referring to the "If this is love, (then) give me more, (and) more, (and) more..." gambit. It is first heard in "You Angel You" at the 1:00 mark and in "I'm In Love" at 0:58.

He may have heard it but I doubt it was an inspiration or source material, personally. Dylan ripped off a lot of songs over the years (and I don't say that critically) but his source material wasn't almost always an old folk ballad or a country blues song.

You are probably right on both counts. "I'm In Love" was a hit in the UK and I believe it was released, and also covered, in the US. That said, they may have both been influenced by an earlier usage or just independently written (without influence).
125  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Bob Dylan Thread on: July 18, 2019, 05:28:50 PM
This lullaby came to mind during today's evening walk. I like the sentiment. I remember hearing this album on breakfast radio before heading off to work in early 1974, the year I chose to move to the Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frj2CLGldC4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Young_(Bob_Dylan_song)

I love that album. Pretty underrated I think. Some of the songs foreshadow the confessional direction he would take with Blood on the Tracks (Going, Going, Gone, Dirge, Wedding Song). Yet while Blood has always felt a bit too FM-friendly to me in places, the sound of Waves is just excellent, with The Band's homespun rawness in full display.

Agreed about The Band's contribution. It takes the album to another level. "Going, Going, Gone" has some wonderfully spooky guitar from Robbie. It's just supremely irritating that the album version is nowhere to be found online. Undecided 

Speaking of Planet Waves, what are the chances Dylan heard The Fourmost's "I'm In Love"? Whenever I listen to "You Angel You', I think of this https://youtu.be/PoAr8Dcm-5M?t=59. It's quite possible I am the only one. LOL
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