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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs with step joining on: May 19, 2019, 09:10:24 AM
"Draggin' The Line" - Tommy James
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOsr00k_MI

I heard this on the radio a few days ago and immediately thought of this thread. Check it out.

1 - Bass and drums
2 - Guitar and 2nd bass (?)
3 - 1st vocal and organ
4 - 2nd vocal
5 - 3rd vocal
6 - horns
7 - 2nd guitar

2  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: Carl Wilson (Carl Wilson) on: May 11, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Carl Wilson - 7/10

This is my favorite of Carl's solo efforts. It's just a really pleasant, enjoyable album. I dig the stripped-back production and the resulting clarity. I like the drums high in the mix. The fact that this debut isn't the ambitious artistic statement that some fans may have hoped for doesn't bother me one bit. By comparison, Youngblood probably has stronger material and more impressive vocals from Carl, but the production is too busy for my taste. Too guitar-driven and dated. It's certainly more ambitious-sounding, but sometimes less is more.

I only have a few (minor) problems with Carl Wilson. 1) I think "What You Gonna Do About Me?" and "The Right Lane" both drag on too long. 2) I could have done without the nearly 2 minute saxophone solo in "Seems So Long Ago". Though, there are worse ways to end an album, sequence-wise (see Youngblood). 3) I'm not a fan of "The Grammy". Particularly, lyrically. Anyway, here's how I'd rank the tracks...

1. Heaven
2. Hurry Love

3. Hold Me
4. What You Gonna Do About Me?
5. The Right Lane
6. Seems So Long Ago
7. Bright Lights

8. The Grammy
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Sandbox thread for insignificant chit-chat on: May 09, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
I love all things related to History. I've been listening to podcasts of University professors giving lectures to students on American History.
We're coming up to the 170th anniversary of a significant event I confess to not knowing anything about until a couple of days ago. On 10 May, 1849 the "Astor Place Riot" took place in New York City.
During the 1840s there was a movement to try to get Americans to be more "sophisticated."
 to make a very complicated story short, Shakespeare was to be performed at two venues in New York City, one starring an American actor and the other, an English actor . The fans for the American showed their displeasure by going to Astor Place and protesting . It got so bad that law enforcement was called . When things really started getting out of hand the police fired into the crowd, killing at least 22 civilians! Over Shakespeare!

Thanks for sharing, NBBF. I hadn't been aware of this either.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: So what did we all do today? on: May 08, 2019, 06:52:22 PM
Today is Victory Day (9th May a.m. here). The day when victory took place in WWII against fascists. There'll be parade today in each city square & traditionally annually they'll feed people for free in the streets with "soldier cereal" - buckwheat with stewed meat (canned meat). I got sms about it to inform in which places this year they'll arrange this "field kitchen" (literal translation). Missed it last year but today I'm going to eat it. Besides, buckwheat is favorite cereal, the single food I can eat twice. Aunt & her fam will go to parade holding big picture in the stick - like many people - showing her war veteran grandfather/ my great-grandfather (born in 1905, d. in the 90s). I may join them or individually or with friends Sonya & Daiana but they got their fams to walk with. There'll be of course living veterans too, sitting lined in chairs, listening to concert & many events organized for them.

Enjoy, RRA1. It was a great day.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul McCartney Solo on: May 08, 2019, 06:14:36 AM
Top 10 Favorite Albums

01. Ram (1971)
02. Band On The Run (1973)

03. Venus And Mars (1975)
04. Run Devil Run (1999)
05. Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (2005)
06. McCartney (1970)
07. Flaming Pie (1997)
08. Tug Of War (1982)
09. Back To The Egg (1979)

10. Wings At The Speed Of Sound (1976)
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul McCartney Solo on: May 08, 2019, 06:14:24 AM
Top 15 Favorite Songs (in chronological order)

01. Every Night
02. Maybe I'm Amazed
03. Too Many People
04. Smile Away
05. Jet
06. Let Me Roll It
07. Call Me Back Again
08. Let 'Em In
09. Mull Of Kintyre
10. After The Ball/Million Miles
11. Tug Of War
12. Wanderlust
13. Calico Skies
14. Too Much Rain
15. Nothing Too Much Just Out Of Sight
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1967 Radio Ad for Wild Honey on the Beatles Channel on: April 22, 2019, 04:26:07 PM
I'd love to hear that! Too bad I let my subscription expire.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Misheard Vocals on: April 22, 2019, 11:11:35 AM
I recently listened to That Lucky Old Sun while following along with the lyrics as printed in the album booklet. I was surprised to read that, officially, one of the lines of "Southern California" is "I heard the voice of my mind". I've always heard it as, "I heard the voice of my ma". I still hear it that way. After mentioning his brothers earlier in the song, I think it's fitting.

I can't be alone in this. Anyone else?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why does spotify keep screwing with the Beach Boys material? on: April 10, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
Sorry to hear this is happening... I haven't had any problems with Apple Music, other than Spirit Of America vanishing a few months ago.

Apple Music has The Pet Sounds Sessions?
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Way down in the bass!--favourite bass guitar moments on: April 05, 2019, 04:14:29 PM
Nothing earth-shattering, but sit back and enjoy this nice little melodic bass interlude.

*I've even learned how to link videos with a specific start time for your convenience*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fni5y-8wqo&feature=youtu.be&t=216
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: April 03, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
the speeding up of CN was most probably done at the time for the 45 single release, in other words that's what Murry & Capitol felt was necessary if a Brian Wilson solo record was going to have the best radio play chance

the speed change was merely carried over when it was placed on the PS album now as a group effort

I don't think Capitol had anything to do with that decision. And Murry had nothing to say about their releases (he was fired by then), it was just a suggestion by him to Brian. Brian liked it and went ahead with it.

I don't think he ever changed his mind either. For the Classics Selected By Brian Wilson comp, he said that CN "represents the sweetest I can sing" (which I find very interesting considering it's sped-up). Does anyone recall if he mentioned it in his book?
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: April 01, 2019, 04:57:40 PM
Jessie Reiswig, I believe you're correct. The original speed version of "Caroline, No" is still only available on the Pet Sounds Sessions box set. Unfortunately, this version isn't available on streaming services, such as, Spotify. Also, Spotify mistitles the stereo sped-up version that's included on Classics Selected By Brian Wilson as original speed.

That's a damn shame that it's not on proper streaming services. Good thing for YouTube and my iPod classic.

The tracks (stereo and mono) can still be purchased on iTunes. Weirdly, iTunes mistitles the box set as "40th anniversary".
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: April 01, 2019, 04:28:42 PM
Jessie Reiswig, I believe you're correct. The original speed version of "Caroline, No" is still only available on the Pet Sounds Sessions box set. Unfortunately, this version isn't available on streaming services, such as, Spotify. Also, Spotify mistitles the stereo sped-up version that's included on Classics Selected By Brian Wilson as original speed.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB albums sabotaged by one song on: March 27, 2019, 11:45:02 AM
Out of curiosity, how highly do you rank All Summer Long among your favorite BB albums? Would it be higher if it weren't for OFRS? Personally, All Summer Long has always been top 5 for me. Usually, either 3rd or 4th.
As far as albums go it's definitely up there for me. Even with the inclusion of OFRS it is one of their stronger albums. For their pre-Pet Sounds I'd rank it behind Today and Summer Days. It's probably #5 or #6 for me overall.

That's high praise, and I never tire hearing it! 'The Definitive SSMB Album Ranking' thread currently has it at #13.  Angry
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB albums sabotaged by one song on: March 27, 2019, 10:21:14 AM
I would like to point out first, that it is actually Al Jardine singing lead on Santa Ann Winds.

Mike sings...
"And see the San Gabriel Mountain scene"
"Becoming one with the boundless sea"
"Whispering the wisdom and its purity"

16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB albums sabotaged by one song on: March 27, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
Anywho, that's my lousy armchair quarterback qualm with the album. I'm beyond happy we have all this music, so this isn't supposed to be a rip at the album, just an observation.

Absolutely, rab. It's understood.

All Summer Long's 'Our Favorite Recording Session' - basically the entire album is chock full of hooks, harmonies, killer chords, hits (even a #1 hit), and the flow is kinda just abruptly halted by the filler talking track. Idk, it doesn't really sabotage the album, but on the other hand, I'm less likely to play it when other people are around lest they have to hear Mike Love's fake southern accent. And I'm not knocking that either, I'm glad these guys had fun, and I'm glad they thought it would be funny to put on a record. I'm just less inclined to play it for other people because of how weird that track is.

Yeah, I was just having a little fun using the word "sabotage" in the title, but if a certain aspect of the album keeps you from playing it as often as you otherwise would then it deserves a mention. I appreciate the little bit of effort put into the last few seconds of OFRS to set up the final track. Brian says, "Let's make one. You guys ready? Let's go."

Out of curiosity, how highly do you rank All Summer Long among your favorite BB albums? Would it be higher if it weren't for OFRS? Personally, All Summer Long has always been top 5 for me. Usually, either 3rd or 4th.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB albums sabotaged by one song on: March 26, 2019, 06:33:58 PM
3) Smiley Smile: Okay, I'm only being half serious with this one, but "Good Vibrations" takes me out of this album! Production-wise, it's jarring. Simple as that. I've said before that GV is probably my most skipped BB song, and that's true. It's also one of my favorite BB songs. So, do I believe that Smiley Smile is worse off because of it? No.


Yes! I wonder if substituting the Lai'd In Hawaii version of Good Vibrations would temper that. I've never tried it though.

Good idea. I'll try that sometime.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / BB albums sabotaged by one song on: March 26, 2019, 02:48:24 PM
Are there any albums that you feel are significantly let down by the inclusion of one song? Feel free to expand your answers to include any specific element of an album that bothers you.

1) Surfer Girl: This may still rate as a classic, all-time great album, but the inclusion of "South Bay Surfer" epically undermines its greatness. I like the underlying song, but the performance, arrangement, production, and sequence leave a lot to be desired. It's entirely out of place; whereas, the rest of the album is fantastic and cohesive. If it weren't for this blunder Surfer Girl would easily be among my top 10 favorite BB albums. Instead, it's #15.

2) Shut Down Vol. 2: This album could stand to lose 2-3 of its tracks. The disparity between the best and worst material does not make for an enjoyable listening experience. That said, sequencing "Cassius Love vs. Sonny Wilson" in the middle of Side 1 was a huge mistake. I had the same misgiving with "South Bay Surfer". In my opinion, if you are going to include an inferior song on an album you are best off hiding it in the middle of Side 2 and if you are going to include a talk track you are best off including it as the last track (that way it can be heard as a bonus/hidden track). The sequencing of "Cassius Love vs. Sonny Wilson" torpedoed the listening experience. It's a shame when you consider just how great 3/4 of this album is. I never listen to it from start to finish.

3) Smiley Smile: Okay, I'm only being half serious with this one, but "Good Vibrations" takes me out of this album! Production-wise, it's jarring. Simple as that. I've said before that GV is probably my most skipped BB song, and that's true. It's also one of my favorite BB songs. So, do I believe that Smiley Smile is worse off because of it? No.

4) Carl & the Passions - So Tough: I feel like this album is a bit underrated. Personally, I prefer it to Surf's Up. Unfortunately, it only has 8 songs. I love 7 of them. "Here She Comes" is not one of them. To make matters worse, for me, it's sequenced 2nd and is over 5 minutes long. Not ideal. The lead vocals are also mixed ridiculously low relative to the rest of the album (and most importantly the songs immediately preceding and following it). I don't hate the song, though. The fade out is awesome. Perhaps with a better mix, edit, and another Beach Boy sharing the lead with Ricky, I'd love it too.

5) Keepin' The Summer Alive - Mike's nasal lead vocals, and the production thereof, on "Some Of Your Love" and "Santa Ana Winds" really brings the album down for me. It's too bad, because I think it's actually a pretty good album, all things considered. "Santa Ana Winds" is especially frustrating because it was such an easy fix. Just have someone else sing his lead vocal line if he couldn't get it right. His bass vocal part is fantastic.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: March 04, 2019, 09:05:14 AM
Anyhoo, didn't like the album. Zero favorites. It may be single such album by Paul. Can you say the same about any Beatle/ Paul?

My two least favorite Paul solo albums are Pipes Of Peace (1983) and Kisses On The Bottom (2012). I can't really say that I like either album nor are any of the songs a favorite of mine.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: March 03, 2019, 03:52:01 PM
Anyhoo, since this thread isn't about favorites you listen to but *general* "what you listen to", here's album I listen to via kitchen radio (yes, it plays at times full albums) - New by Paul. Not sure why it's played few yrs after the fact but there you go. It's today's radio pick. I'm famously Paul fan but don't like few tracks they played. Maybe it improves with next tracks? Yay? Nay? Listening tbc. Btw, listened to New before but forgot what songs sound like, every single. Thus, the radio helps to refresh brains but it's like listening to it 1st time, really. As if previously I dreamed that I listened to it but in fact didn't. But I did listen, yet don't recall if liked it or disliked. Bizarre.

I'm not a huge fan of McCartney's New. Some fans rank it very highly among Paul's solo albums - I don't. That said, there are a few standout songs IMO. My favorite song is "New". Fantastic! I'm also a big fan of the hidden track "Scared". Beyond that, I like "Save Us", "On My Way To Work", and "Early Days" quite a bit.

21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles on: February 19, 2019, 02:23:39 PM
"Yesterday, everyone knew The Beatles. Today, only Jack remembers their songs. He’s about to become a very big deal. From Academy Award®-winning director Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire, Trainspotting, 28 Days Later) and Richard Curtis, the Oscar-nominated screenwriter of Four Weddings and a Funeral, Love Actually and Notting Hill, comes a rock-n-roll comedy about music, dreams, friendship, and the long and winding road that leads to the love of your life."

https://www.yesterdaymovie.com/
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the 'What are you listening to now?' thread on: February 19, 2019, 10:22:47 AM
Having recently acquired a decent turntable and speakers, and having had a curiosity about vinyl for a long time, I started buying some LPs. I have about a dozen now, and today's listening selection was James Taylor "Mud Slide Slim and the Blue Horizon".

James Taylor was in top form in the early 70s. Sweet Baby James (1970), Mud Slide Slim and the Blue Horizon (1971), and One Man Dog (1972) are all fantastic albums. I hadn't listened to JT in a while. Thanks for planting the suggestion.  Smiley
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rank the Beatles' Studio Albums on: February 13, 2019, 09:13:01 AM
1. The Beatles, 1968
2. Revolver, 1966
3. Rubber Soul, 1965
4. A Hard Day's Night, 1964

5. Abbey Road, 1969
6. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, 1967
7. Help!, 1965

8. Let It Be, 1970
9. Beatles For Sale, 1964
10. Please Please Me, 1963
11. With The Beatles, 1963
12. Magical Mystery Tour, 1967

13. Yellow Submarine, 1969
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Saddest songs on: February 13, 2019, 09:10:31 AM
Crazy Horse - I Don't Want To Talk About It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBz_2EqJ5wI
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles on: February 02, 2019, 12:02:09 PM
The funny thing is that in McCartney's interview from the fall, he doesn't say definitively that the original cut of the film as released to theaters will be re-released...yet the hints are along the lines of the original release was a "downer" so a new edit will be a more fun and happy version?

I'm lazy, so is there word alongside the news of Peter Jackson's work on the project that says the original version of Let It Be will be re-released? Or is it just that Jackson will be recutting a new version from the nearly 60 hours of existing footage?

Whatever the case, I'm confused about just what is coming out...and I hope they do re-release the original edit so people can see it. Wasn't it John or George or both of them who later said fans should see Let It Be so they could get an idea of how dreary and bad the scene really was by 1969 rather than trying to sugarcoat it?

They are definitely restoring and re-releasing the original film. That is why I'm so excited about this! No reservations. We get the best (hopefully) of both worlds. The only worry is that years down the road the new film could be prioritized and, therefore, outlast the original, but that is a risk worth taking. As you said, the original film has already been kept under wraps for nearly 40 years (last release was on VHS in '81) and it's not like it's a secret what's on it. People have still found a way to watch it and have read about it. So, the fact that it'll finally be released (presumably) on DVD and Blu-ray is huge. IMO that gives them the freedom to create a happier version (if that truly is what transpires), that won't necessarily be dishonest or sugarcoating. It's just another look, another perspective. The source material is the same. I think it's fair to suspect that the original film may not have been the most accurate representation of the overall mood. Regardless, we'll have both films to enjoy, analyze, and decide for ourselves. I can't wait!!!  
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