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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BEACH BOYS PRODUCERS SHED LIGHT ON 1968 ARCHIVAL RELEASES
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on: January 08, 2019, 07:49:24 AM
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Some nice quotes there. Thanks for sharing. I'd love to hear some more insights into some of the choices they made for the set and whether they were made out of necessity (i.e. material didn't exist) or for some other reason. Two that immediately come to mind are the vocals only track for "Be Here in the Morning" and the instrumental backing track for "Busy Doin' Nothin', but I'm sure others have their own choices. Let me stress that this isn't complaining, sets were amazing, but I'm just curious .
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread
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on: December 07, 2018, 04:26:50 AM
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The “issue” with trying to say these should be physical discounts the fact that these two sets exceed the time limit of to CDs - I’d rather have all the material digitally, than miss out on some physically. Obviously I’d love a multi CD physical though.
The Friends set comes out to a little over an hour, the 20/20 far exceeds 80 minutes. With the 16/44 files from Qobuz, I still wanted to make CDs for when I'm on the go. For the Friends CD, I added I Went to Sleep, Walk On By and the Old Man River sessions to almost fill up the CD. For the 20/20 CD, in addition to omitting the tracks I was able to fit on the Friends set, I removed the Bluebird tracks (don't care for the song) and the last two with non BB lead vocals, and it fit. So I was able to fit 67 / 72 tracks on my 2 CDs. Not bad.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread
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on: November 28, 2018, 07:08:00 PM
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On the other hand, the Dennis music -- and there is A LOT of it -- shows him blossoming in real time, feeling his way through. REALLY powerful stuff -- also devoid of any contemporary influences. Eerily, this music feels very modern. The overriding feeling I get is akin to when McCartney caught up to Lennon at Rubber Soul and Revolver. This BB period has two leaders pretty much creating a quality of work that's neck and neck with each other. It's arguably the one and only time it went down like this. I'm blown away by this stuff, probably more so than I was by the '67 stash.
That's really interesting, because the impression I tended to get from Dennis during this period was that he was still very Brian influenced on tracks like Little Bird, and that his writing voice wouldn't really fully emerge until a little later on (20/20, which I'm assuming is part of the set too). I thought there was maybe less overlap between them, with Dennis really blossoming as a distinctive songwriter just as Brian withdrew after Old Man River. I definitely look forward to becoming better informed about his early development.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread
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on: November 28, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
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The thing that stands out most about the new '68 material is how untouched by contemporary influences Brian is throughout. Sans a few instances where you can pick up a decidedly Bacharach vibe -- this music is pure Brian. He was going somewhere pretty unique before the "pause."
I am firmly of the opinion that during the Friends period and the brief Old Man River period immediately after, Brian was following his muse again ala SMiLE, albeit with some musical contributions from his bandmates here and there that weren't part of the process in 1966/67. This is not meant to be a knock on the Smiley Smile and Wild Honey albums, both of which are clearly amazing, but to me, Smiley represented a production compromise for Brian while Wild Honey was a stylistic compromise. To write that I am beyond excited for this release would be understating it. This is almost as big for me as the SMiLE box. I just hope there will be high resolution downloads available, since there won't be a physical release.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love in New Issue of Mojo - \
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on: January 24, 2018, 10:36:30 AM
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If we're to view Brian and Al as two disappointed guys who have been shut out of the touring band, I'm still a little confused about the current status quo. If there are 4 votes in BRI: Brian, Al, Mike and Carl's kids, what's stopping them from nixing the Mike and Bruce tour and demanding that the BB can only tour as a reunion outfit?
Do Brian and/or Al nevertheless vote for the Mike and Bruce show because of the money it rakes in? If so, it's a little more difficult to view them purely as victims. OR, what happens if there is a split vote, with both Mike and Carl's kids voting for the Mike and Bruce show and Brian and Al voting against? What happens then?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The biggest revelation about Sunshine Tomorrow.. Brian's level of involvement..
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on: July 01, 2017, 12:07:57 PM
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Guitarfool, I feel like I'm largely saying the same thing you're saying, just in a different way. I'm not suggesting that Brian isn't making the creative decisions in this period, it's just that he's taking the concerns and sensibilities of the other members more into account in his decision making rather than simply going with his unfettered creative vision as he mostly did up to and including the SMiLE era (with the exception perhaps of Party). Maybe rather than saying Wild Honey reflected the creative inclinations of the other BBs, I'll argue that Brian's creative decisions were being made with the wants and needs of the other members on his mind more than before.
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