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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread on: October 10, 2018, 07:39:08 AM
Not sure how likely this is, but one thing I wouldn’t mind hearing on this year’s set would be Bluebirds Over the Mountain without the lead guitar. No disrespect to Ed Carter, who certainly knew how to handle his business, but I never felt the rock style of guitar worked in this particular song. Always suspected I might like it more if there were a version sans lead. Just one man's opinion, of course.
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / The Sylvans - Pack It Up on: October 08, 2018, 08:07:22 AM
Here's a fun pop-rock song from my band's new album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRvravHH_0&index=8&list=UU4nILfAzLH0PubnH55bfXCQ


And just in case you want to check out the full album, it can be streamed here:
https://thesylvans.bandcamp.com/
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread on: September 21, 2018, 08:11:00 AM
and the concert from wich "friends" and" little bird" are taken on "made in california"...

That's definitely something I could get excited about! Bring it on.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Anyone Looking For A Cheap Beach Boys Tee? on: May 27, 2018, 07:11:40 PM
Stumbled across this KTSA t-shirt while scouring the web today and thought you guys might be interested...

https://www.ae.com/men-ae-graphic-tee-black/web/s-prod/0164_3688_001?cm=sUS-cUSD&catId=cat8530003

Not bad for 15 bucks!
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged on: October 22, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
Here's the full press release (taken from the Steve Hoffman Board):


THE BEACH BOY’S 1965 ALBUM, ‘BEACH BOYS’ PARTY!’ REMIXED, REMASTERED AND EXPANDED WITHOUT OVERDUBBED FESTIVITIES FOR ‘BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! UNCOVERED AND UNPLUGGED’

50th Anniversary 2CD and Digital Album Features 81 Songs and Dialog Tracks Culled From The Beach Boys’ ‘Party!’ Studio Sessions


Los Angeles – October 22, 2015 – In November 1965, The Beach Boys released Beach Boys’ Party!, a creative and well-loved album of covers mixed with separately recorded party sounds created by the band members, their families and friends. ‘Party!’ was a Top 10 Billboard hit, quickly going Gold and spawning the timeless No. 2 smash hit, “Barbara Ann.” To celebrate the popular album’s 50th anniversary, The Beach Boys have overseen a remixed, remastered and expanded edition, Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered and Unplugged, which removes the overdubbed festivities from the 12-track original album’s mix and adds 69 more songs and dialog tracks culled from all of the band’s ‘Party!’ recording sessions. To be released worldwide on November 20 by Capitol/UMe, the 2CD and digital album also includes photos from the sessions, package essays by Beach Boys historians Alan Boyd and Craig Slowinski, and notes by the new edition’s producer, Mark Linett. A vinyl LP edition of the ‘Party!’ album’s original 12 tracks, remixed and remastered in the ‘Uncovered and Unplugged’ style, will follow on December 11.

Over the course of several long sessions at Western Recorders in Hollywood, California in August and September of 1965, The Beach Boys recorded what was, essentially, the first “unplugged” rock & roll album, with instrumentation limited to acoustic guitars, bass, bongos, harmonica and a tambourine. Joined in the studio by a few friends and collaborators, the band ran through many of their favorite songs of the time, including hits by The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan and others, even spoofing two of their own biggest hits – “I Get Around” and “Little Deuce Coupe” -- with self-parodying renditions. The Beach Boys’ version of The Regents’ “Barbara-Ann” (released by The Beach Boys minus the title’s original hyphen), included on the album, leapt up the Billboard singles chart and became one of the band’s signature songs, beloved by fans around the world.

“The ‘Party!’ album was a result of the pressure Capitol Records was putting on us for another album,” explained Beach Boys founding member Mike Love. “And we didn’t really have time to develop the type of album we wanted to develop, which Brian was working on, called Pet Sounds… So we said, ‘Well, what can we do quickly and easily?’ And we decided to do this party album.”

“Mike was saying, why not a party album and we can act like we are [at a party], and just be ourselves on tape, you know?” recalled Beach Boys founding member Brian Wilson. “And that’s what happened. It was a very spontaneous album.”

After the band wrapped recording sessions for the album’s songs -- plus many additional songs -- they returned to the studio with friends and family in tow, for a three-hour session to record party sounds and chatter to be mixed with the songs for the freewheeling Beach Boys’ Party! album. Removed from this new ‘Uncovered and Unplugged’ edition, the mixed-in party sounds remain intact on the original album, which was most recently remixed in stereo for reissue by Capitol in 2012.


thebeachboys.com
twitter.com/TheBeachBoys
facebook.com/thebeachboys


The Beach Boys:Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered and Unplugged [2CD; digital]


DISC 1


THE ALBUM

1. HULLY GULLY [Session #2 – 9/8/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

2. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

3. TELL ME WHY [Session #2 – 9/8/65]
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

4. PAPA-OOM-MOW-MOW [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Brian

5. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

6. YOU'VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
    Lead vocal: Dennis

7. DEVOTED TO YOU [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

8. ALLEY OOP [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

9. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Brian

10. I GET AROUND / LITTLE DEUCE COUPE [Session #4 – 9/15/65]
      Lead vocal: Mike

11. THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN' [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
      Solo vocal: Al

12. BARBARA ANN [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean


THE SESSIONS

13. LET'S GET THIS PARTY ROLLING [Session #2 – 9/8/65]


SESSION #1 [8/23/65]

14. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER #1
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

15. RUBY BABY #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

16. (I CAN’T GET NO) SATISFACTION #1
      Group vocals: Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Mike

17. HULLY GULLY #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

18. BLOWIN' IN THE WIND
      Solo vocal: Al

19. DIALOG: “THE SUNRAYS”


SESSION #2 [9/8/65]

20. RUBY BABY #2
      Lead vocal: Brian

21. DIALOG: “THE MASKED PHANTOM”

22. HULLY GULLY #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

23. DIALOG: “CARL, GO GET YOUR BASS”

24. HULLY GULLY #3
      Lead vocal: Mike

25. (I CAN’T GET NO) SATISFACTION #2
      Group vocals: Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Mike

26. DIALOG: “THAT'S A BAD GUITAR”
      Piano: Brian

27. RUBY BABY #3
      Lead vocal: Brian

28. DIALOG: “WHAT'S THE MATTER, CARL”

29. RUBY BABY #4
      Lead vocal: Brian

30. DIALOG: “CARL'S TIRES”

31. I SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER #2
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

32. I SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER #3
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

33. DIALOG: “WASN'T THAT GREAT FOLKS?”

34. TELL ME WHY #1
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

35. DON'T WORRY BABY
      12-string acoustic guitar: Carl

36. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #1
      Lead vocal: Dennis

37. LITTLE DEUCE COUPE #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

38. CALIFORNIA GIRLS
      Lead vocal: Mike


DISC 2


SESSION #2 [9/8/65], continued

1. SHE BELONGS TO ME/THE ARTIST (LAUGH AT ME) #1
    Lead vocal: Mike

2. FOOLING AROUND: HANG ON SLOOPY/YOU’VE LOST THAT LOVIN’ FEELIN’/TWIST AND SHOUT
    Lead vocal: Mike

3. RIOT IN CELLBLOCK No.9 #1
    Lead vocal: Mike

4. FOOLING AROUND: THE DIARY
    Lead vocal: Bruce

5. DIALOG: “I THINK WE BETTER DO THIS NEXT WEEK”
    Piano: Brian


SESSION #3 [9/14/65]

6. DIALOG: “LET'S COOK NOW AND EAT LATER”

7. TELL ME WHY #2
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

8. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER #4
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

9. DIALOG: “WHAT I WANT TO DO”

10. DIALOG: “ARE WE STILL IN THE PARTY?”

11. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

12. DIALOG: “WHERE'S DENNY?”

13. DEVOTED TO YOU #1
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

14. DIALOG: “WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW”

15. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #2
      Lead vocal: Dennis

16. DIALOG: “THIS PHONY PARTY” / TICKET TO RIDE
      Lead vocal: Al

17. ALLEY OOP #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

18. ALLEY OOP #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

19. DIALOG: “TUNE IT LIKE IT IS”

20. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

21. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) #2
      Lead vocal: Brian

22. DIALOG: “DO THE SPLITS”

23. DEVOTED TO YOU #2
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

24. DEVOTED TO YOU #3
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike


SESSION #4 [9/15/65]

25. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #3
      Lead vocal: Dennis

26. I GET AROUND
      Lead vocal: Mike

27. LITTLE DEUCE COUPE #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

28. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE #2
      Lead vocals: Mike & Brian

29. TICKET TO RIDE #2

30. RIOT IN CELL BLOCK No. #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

31. THE ARTIST (LAUGH AT ME) #2
      Solo vocal: Mike

32. ONE KISS LED TO ANOTHER
      Lead vocal: Mike


SESSION #5 [9/23/65]

33. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #4
      Solo vocal: Dennis

34. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #5
      Lead vocal: Dennis

35. DIALOG: “WHAT DID YOU STOP US FOR CHUCK?”

36. THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN'
      Lead vocal: Al

37. FOOLING AROUND: HEART AND SOUL/LONG TALL SALLY

38. FOOLING AROUND: THE BOY FROM NYC

39. SMOKEY JOE'S CAFE
      Lead vocal: Mike

40. DIALOG: “I GOT ONE MORE”

41. BARBARA ANN #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

42. BARBARA ANN #2
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean

43. BARBARA ANN #3
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged on: October 19, 2015, 12:31:14 PM
Maybe the actual 1965 copyright extension set will have the two Chicago gigs on it...I'll take that and this Party set!

I've been anticipating the '65 Chicago gigs ever since they began releasing the copyright extension sets.  Hope they'll be released.

Ditto. I'll be happy with whatever we get, but seeing the separate release of the Sacramento shows last year did make it seem like a real possibility. Let's keep our fingers crossed...
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Back Home (not the Beach Boys song) on: September 22, 2015, 02:04:45 PM
Here's another "hillbilly" song I wrote and recorded:

https://soundcloud.com/blake-alan-3/back-home
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys studio banter that absolutely mystifies you on: September 13, 2015, 02:35:08 PM

By the way, according to Vickie Kocher, the correct title for this song is "Teach Me to Surf," and it was intended as a duet between Bob Norberg and Vickie.  Vickie (now known as Victoria Hale) remembers the complete melody and lyrics, and has sung them to me.

Lee


Are the melody/lyrics documented anywhere? That is, does she have a physical copy of the words or, perhaps, a home recording of herself singing the tune? I'd hate for this little gem to completely fall through the cracks if it doesn't have to.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Every Dime I Make on: March 25, 2015, 10:39:53 PM
Thanks for the tip! I hadn't noticed it, but now that I listen again, the drums are a little loud. I'll try turning them down and bumping the vocal next time I get to my recording equipment.

As for "In The Summertime", you definitely got me there. Believe or not, that was unintentional, but yes, the verse melody is almost identical. Oops! Don't tell Jerry  Smiley
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Every Dime I Make on: March 13, 2015, 04:39:41 PM
Here's a song I recently finished. It's a little bit hillbilly, so it may not be to everyone's taste. Any mixing tips or tricks are very welcome as I know almost nothing about the subject. Thanks!

https://soundcloud.com/blake-alan-3/every-dime-i-make

11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Non-Beach Boys session work from '64 to be released for Record Store Day on: March 13, 2015, 02:34:39 PM
Nice to know "I Can See Right Through You" will finally be released. I had hoped for its inclusion on the 2014 copyright extension set, but understand why it wasn't, thanks to Lee's explanation. That being said, does its non-release mean the song is now out of copyright? In Europe only, perhaps?? I'm still not completely sure how the specific legalities work, but I find the whole situation pretty interesting.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sync issues on MIC box on ps3 on: March 25, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
I know zilch about the ps3, BUT here's what I would do... If the disc plays alright on your computer (if not, there may be a defect with the product), trying ripping lossless files to your hard drive and then burning a cd. Then try ripping the duplicate to your ps3. That may or may not help, but it's worth a shot if you've got some blank discs laying around.

13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: What Can I Do Without You? (original song) on: March 12, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Yes, very nice song. You're vocals are excellent and, to my ears, well recorded. Thanks for posting!
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: March 01, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
Also, I was in Starbucks the other day and saw this http://www.starbucksstore.com/music-for-little-hipsters/011036233,default,pd.html

Featuring Vegetables! Thought that was funny.

Interesting. Begs the question, "Which version of Vegetables?"


It's the Smiley Smile version. You can find a short article about the comp here:

http://theseconddisc.com/2014/02/17/starbucks-goes-hip-and-jazzy-on-venti-release-slate/

By the way, that website (www.theseconddisc.com) is a great source of information about forthcoming re-issues and re-packagings of older music.

15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Big Beat 1963 on: December 18, 2013, 11:50:05 PM
Just wanted to say how thoroughly I'm enjoying this new release. And a HUGE thanks to everyone involved in making it happen!
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIC Price Discussion Thread. on: November 27, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
For anyone who doesn't already have a copy of MiC (or anyone that wants an extra copy, I suppose), Amazon will be featuring it as part of their Lightning Deals today at 4:00 pm est. The sale price hasn't been announced yet, but I would assume it will be heavily discounted. A rough guess would be 20 to 40 percent off. These deals tend to end pretty quickly, so if you're interested I would try to be there at or near the start. Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=bf2013_ln_music?ie=UTF8&node=4989003011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=063H1DEMC799SKVSCPRS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1680025222&pf_rd_i=384082011


UPDATE: Sale price is $80.49.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC on: October 11, 2013, 04:05:41 PM
Yeah, a guy can hope though, right? My two biggest wants for MiC were 'Wich Stand' and 'Sound of Free'. I was actually pretty surprised to see either of them make it since neither were technically BB tracks. And yes, I'm afraid 'Wich Stand' will never see the light of day, given it's status as a Survivor's song. I mean, if not on a BB comp, where does it belong? Another BW productions comp?? There's probably plenty of material for a second volume, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC on: October 11, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
Wich Stand
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC up for order on Amazon, August release on: June 13, 2013, 09:21:38 AM
Man, if they had skipped some of the backing tracks and stack-o-vocals, maybe even some of the lives, they could have easily crammed more genuinely unreleased stuff there.

No they couldn't. Putting two different versions of the same song on costs less than putting two different songs on. If they put, say, This Whole World and This Whole World (vocals) on the same set they only have to pay nine cents per copy sold. If you took This Whole World (vocals) off and put Carry Me Home on instead they'd have to pay eighteen cents.

I know those nine centses don't sound a lot, but assuming all 180 tracks were different songs, with no duplications, the mechanical royalties make up $16.20 of that price everyone's complaining about.

(Actually, they probably cut a deal with the publishers, but we can't know the details of that, obviously).

By duplicating twenty-two of the songs, they save $1.98 per box production costs. Those costs would have to be made up somewhere else.


Right. Which is why I’m surprised Please Let Me Wonder (live in Chicago ’65) didn’t make the cut. Had this (a song many fans have been eager to hear) been included at the expense of Runaway (a cover song I’m not so sure anyone’s been asking for), the record company could have saved some change while the fans got to hear Brian in his prime sing one of his most beautiful ballads. Win-win, right?

But I guess the fans/label are not the only parties involved. Which leads me to believe someone up top must have thought some aspect of PLMW wasn’t quite up to snuff and/or something about Runaway was mind blowingly awesome. Could any of the lucky souls who’ve heard the live PLMW speak to the quality of the performance?

20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 01, 2013, 06:16:21 PM


Ok,
100 of us chip in with 100$ each, we buy the thing, share the digital copy, resell it, share the money.  Who is in?
I'm not even joking.

We can transfer the 100$ to AGD's bank account and he can then buy the acetates.
If we don't make it in time, we can anyway use the money to pay AGD for listening to SIP again.


I'd be up for this.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark L discusses remixing BBs catalogue 'in the box' on: January 12, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
Hmmmm...I dunno.

When was this video shot?  He talks about working on a box set for 2013, but then it immediately shows the cover to 50 Big Ones.  Why?  Then he proceeds to work on the stereo mix of "Darlin'", which was already released on said compilation.  No specific mention of Made In California; so it is a little unclear if he was referring to that elusive release or the already-released 50 Big Ones


I had the the same initial reaction, but later in the video Mark mentions the Smile Sessions getting a grammy nomination. They weren't announced until December 6th of last year, so this must have been done at some point after that.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Ida \ on: January 09, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
Looks like the same guys to me. Al would be so proud...

 
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 06, 2013, 06:57:05 AM

On "S&B", there a date on a photo - 3/26/70 - which cannot be accurate as regards the vocal by Mike (and I'm 99% sure it is Mike), as he was hospitalized at the time after his ill-advised fast, or at best had been very recently discharged. Also, assuming they all signed at the same time... why three different ink colors ? Further, the date on the photo conflicts with the "recorded shortly after Sunflower was released" claim by some six months. Small stuff, but I'm assuming this was the biggest thing that ever happened to Don in his musical career, so I'd expect better, more accurate recall and documentation.


One quick observation: If you look at the autographs and the 3/26/70 date (0:43 seconds into the video), it looks like the full note says "Don Goldberg, good luck with your songs! The Beach Boys 3/26/70". So perhaps he was not involved with them at this point, later developed a relationship with Brian and got him/the band to help cut a few of his songs. Just a guess.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 04, 2013, 11:54:23 PM

However, the timeline seems shaky...was this guy a "prodigy" in 1970-73? That picture of what purports to be a "young Don Goldberg" looks like someone who was maybe 17-21 years old. If it's actually from that time, that would make him close to sixty now. The dad in the videos doesn't look sixty, so those have to be old--maybe about ten years or so.


The copyright office lists his birth year as 1950, which would make him 21-23 for sessions held between '71 and '73. Totally plausible for an "up and coming songwriter".
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 02, 2013, 09:30:34 PM
The U.S. copyright office has registrations for both songs. The entry for "Out In The Country" lists Brian as a co-writer and says the song was written in 1972 (though it appears it wasn't registered until 2004). The registration for 'Sweet And Bitter' claims it was created in '71 and also mentions 'Fading Love Song' and 'Sweet Rhythm'. The site is not letting me post direct links to the entries, but if you go to http://cocatalog.loc.gov and do a name search for 'Goldberg Don', it will bring up both songs as well as a few others he's copyrighted.

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