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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: a CONVERSATION with DAVID BEARD: Jan & Dean's FIiet of Soul on: August 17, 2017, 04:31:45 PM
FINALLY - Here is a better link to my conversation with David Beard on Filet of Soul

https://ia601507.us.archive.org/34/items/DavidBeardAug102017/David%20Beard%20Aug%2010%202017.mp3



APOLOGIES to those who have been unsuccessful at listening to the podcast - working on an upload to another site - back asap,

Phil
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: a CONVERSATION with DAVID BEARD: Jan & Dean's FIiet of Soul on: August 13, 2017, 09:09:58 AM
APOLOGIES to those who have been unsuccessful at listening to the podcast - working on an upload to another site - back asap,

Phil
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / a CONVERSATION with DAVID BEARD: Jan & Dean's FIiet of Soul on: August 11, 2017, 01:45:03 PM
David Beard talks with Phil Miglioratti of Pray For Surf about the September 2017 release of the rejected Filet of Soul album by the Laurel & Hardy duo of Pop Music

The conversation begins with a revealing look at Endless Summer Quarterly before transitioning into David's affection for Jan & Dean and concludes with his perspective of Jan & Dean's rejected version of the 1965 release Filet of Soul:
"It was strange and I liked it! ... a subversive lampooning ... gunfire, cows, a toilet flushing ... Wrecking Crew ... skits ... Jan & Dean lampooning Jan & Dean ... similar to the Beach Boys' Party! album ..."


The story behind the story.

Hear Here>>> https://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/podcast-with-david-beard-on-release-of.html
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Podcast ~a Conversation w/ Domenic Priore, author Look! Listen! Vibrate SMIiLE! on: August 06, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
Maybe in here:
https://www.amazon.com/Smile-Story-Brian-Wilsons-Masterpiece/dp/1860746276/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Podcast ~a Conversation w/ Domenic Priore, author Look! Listen! Vibrate SMIiLE! on: August 04, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
Author Dominic Priore, dubbed by MOJO ‘the world’s foremost Smile-ologist

Phil Miglioratti talks with Domenic Priore, author of "Look! Listen! Vibrate! SMiLE!."


The collection that became the book.

Are we yet to have Brian Wilson's track sequence for SMiLE?

The early days of SMiLE bootlegs.

The SMiLE Box Set.

What "1967: Sunshine Tomorrow" reveals about the why-SMiLE-was-shelved legend.

Darian Sahanaja. Curt Boettcher. Gary Usher. Donna Loren & Shindig. Jan & Dean.

Future legacy of the Beach Boys.

Beatles verses Beach Boys.

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/pray-for-surf-podcast-domenic-priore.html
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Sunshine Tomorrow podcast at Pray for Surf on: July 09, 2017, 04:03:08 PM

This is Phil with a few responses to Guitarfool2002 ===>

Mark and Phil, I just listened to the discussion and you touched on some key points for sure. To Mark more than Phil: I am in the same age group and demographic as you, and relate to those years in the late 80's of discovering some of this music much like you did. It was a learning process that my age seemed to mesh with perfectly in terms of the release and reissue of things like Pet Sounds, the SS/WH two-fer, Live In London, etc.
===>I enjoy the different perspectives that result from our age when we were introduced to the Beach Boys

Having said that, in terms of the discussion itself: I could not help but feel a sense of deja vu on a lot of the points you raised. It's been said often since this release how certain elements in these tracks are a "revelation", or are exposing things that people had no idea were true, or even factual, etc. In terms of the sonics and the new mixes, yes - Sonically these are a revelation as most seem to agree. The tracks jump out of the speakers, and elements lost to the process of summing, bouncing, and mono mixing are now fully audible and in cases like certain vocals, they actually sparkle in audio terms.
===>"Sparkle" ~ a great description

But this issue of how involved Brian Wilson was in the creation and especially the production to me is one that I'll admit (and not wanting to put myself into it but it's part of what happened) is a big issue for me personally.

At various points you mentioned various things in ESQ, articles, etc.

Point #1: How do you react after hearing the actual hard evidence on these tapes to those affiliated with, connected with, or those who contributed to ESQ through the years who had previously argued against Brian's involvement in the production of this music? Obviously it's right there on the tapes for anyone to hear as of July 2017. Yet, in years past and in the not too distant past here on this board, there were arguments made against that fact which some knew was a stone cold truth of the situation, versus what was being proposed, argued, or stated as fact.
===> I try to react with love and mercy to those who authentically made, what are now known to be, erroneous assertions. Regarding keener insight posted here and earlier ... as wide as this board reachers, not everyone resides here, or even if they do, can read everything. Years ago I had a conversation with David Beard who recognized the need for crossover communication. Grand idea; difficult to implement. I am grateful for SS.net and ESQ and other well-intentioned sources.

Adjunct to that were the attempts to dismiss or discredit accounts of the way the Redwood situation unfolded, by some "historians" and others trying to stake a claim on knowledge and reporting of the facts regarding the band. Mark in this discussion says Danny Hutton himself described how it went down. So I also ask how and why some of this was allowed to go reported and even published as "fact" for so long, again including some affiliated with ESQ and offshoots, when there were people all along telling the truth, stating the facts, and confirming pretty much the same information as the audio on this new set has confirmed?
===>Please clarify what you mean by "allowed to go reported/published" ...

I don't think this set rewrites any history at all. I'd say it *corrects* the history that was reported and then repeated incorrectly for so long, in some cases perhaps done more out of spite or personal grudges than wanting to state the facts. As I'm tired of saying after a week or so, and I'm sure people are tired of reading, the truth is in the audio. Not coming from the mouths of historians with agendas.
===>Guitarfool2002, it seems you too have an agenda - What has you fired-up on this point? (it may be obvious to other readers - I'm just trying to understand better;)

So I am a little surprised but not much to see some people who have been in this business for decades expressing shock to hear Brian running the sessions when associates of theirs were the ones arguing against that fact prior to this release.
===>Maybe this is the answer to my query just above ... ?

It may also change some of the opinions of which outlets for fans are the real "toxic" elements considering those labeled toxic by certain individuals and interests were the ones who actually got it right regarding some of those points proven by the audio on this set.

Point #2 - I enjoyed hearing and agree with both of you on the importance of this release in terms of the musical legacy of this band, introducing new listeners to things they may not have known prior to the focus of this set, and also the great respect for the music itself which both the release itself and the team of Boyd and Linett who produced it have made possible.
===>For sure - once the reputation of the Beach Boys was diminished, trashed, ignored, over the decades, I must admit I gave up hope, never anticipating the respect and adulation we are seeing now.

With that in mind, and this is only asking your opinion as fans and in Mark's case, as a published BB author: What is your opinion of Mike Love releasing a remake of Do It Again featuring Mark McGrath coming days after this Sunshine Tomorrow set? And what is your opinion, again as fans and listeners, of that release in terms of the music itself?

My feelings of it are well known, but after listening to the discussion and agreeing so much with both of you on the matters of respect and legacy, how do you square up Mike's decision to release a remake like Do It Again and playing it on a nationally televised concert, both with and as The Beach Boys within days after a release that was almost universally positively received by fans, which brought exactly the kind of positive attention to the music and the legacy?
===> I enjoy covers of Beach Boys songs; hunt for them all the time. Is this a Mike Love cover of a Beach Boys song sung by and co-written by Mike Love? It may grow on me but my initial reaction is less than whelming. Regarding legacy, this release of DIA does more for sales than legacy.


Point #3 - Is James Hirsch coming back for part 4? I'd like to hear his take on issues like these, especially the Do It Again remake and the Sunshine Tomorrow set, which transpired since the last appearance. And I'd also ask him specifically to comment on those sections of Mike's book regarding the C50 reunion, the albums (both TWGMTR and the live release), and the notion of that reunion not being commercial enough to be successful in his eyes in light of what Mike just released this week. And about the contradictions of Mike's issues with using autotune centered around C50 and beyond versus hearing his lead vocal on Help Me Rhonda autotuned as of this past Tuesday's televised concert. The contradictions of what we read and were told versus what we've heard from Mike in studio and in concert are pretty glaring, it would be nice to hear some thoughts on that stuff.
===> IMHO, James would be unable to give you his personal opinions and I presume he is not in ongoing, contemporaneous conversations with Mike (certainly I could be wrong on both counts).

===>THANKS for a good conversation. Feed/Pushback welcomed,  Phil






32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Sunshine Tomorrow podcast at Pray for Surf on: July 08, 2017, 10:47:06 AM
Thanks Mark,
For another insightful conversation about The Beach Boys.

Never thought I'd be learning to love Wild Honey so much‼️

Phil
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Podcast on I Am Brian Wilson on: January 02, 2017, 04:12:37 PM
Thanks for teaming with me Mark ~ always enjoy your insights and observations!

Phil
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Part 2 of interview with Mike book collaborator James S. Hirsch on: October 29, 2016, 09:14:44 PM
Thanks to all who listened and commented. And to Mark; he was great.

I did not mean to equate Melinda with Murry or Landy. I believe in marriage (I've officiated at scores of them). I believe she loves Brian and works hard to protect him. She is not seeking to harm her husband and from what I can tell they have a genuine loving relationship. She is, however, very involved with all decisions regarding Brian's career, a role similar to Murry and Landy.  Not everyone involved with the Beach Boys will always agree with the decisions she makes or implements. She is a loving wife who is involved in creative and business decisions, as was Murry and Landy. Trying to clarify ...

35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: interview with Mike book collaborator James S. Hirsch on: October 24, 2016, 09:56:52 AM
Mark Dillon... looks good questions for Part 2,
Phil
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / Book Reviews / Re: Good Vibrations : My Life as a Beach Boy - by Mike Love on: October 24, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Hope thi sis the coorect spot ...

Mark Dillion and I interviewed Mike's collaborator, Jim Hirsch.
  •How did Jim and Mike connect?
  •What did Jim learn/dig-out from his research and over 50 interviews for the book?
  •His perspective on the 50+ year "Cassius Love vs. Sonny Wilson" storyline.
  •Why did the 50th Reunion Tour really end?

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2016/10/prayforsurf-interview-jim-hirsch-mike.html
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / Book Reviews / Re: I am Brian Wilson - Brian Wilson (duh) on: October 20, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
Also in the process of reading Brian's book. To me, it conveys the kind of conversation Ive always hoped (fantasized?) to have with Brian. Soft. Flowing. Even poetic.
VERY different than the feel of Mike's book. Pointed. Defending/Refuting. Details.
FYI - Mark Dillon (50 Sides of the Beach Boys) was my co-interviewer of Jim Harsch, Mike's collaborator @ PrayForSurfBlog.blogspot.com [also a recent interview with Dean Torrence on his new book]
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / Book Reviews / Re: Fifty Sides of the Beach Boys - Mark Dillon on: October 19, 2016, 07:25:47 PM
FYI ~ Mark Dillon is my co-interviewer in my conversation with Jim Hirsch, collaborator on Mike Love's "Good Vibrations: My Life as a Beach Boy" at PrayForSurfBlog.blogspot.com
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / Book Reviews / Re: Fifty Sides of the Beach Boys - Mark Dillon on: September 07, 2016, 11:59:44 AM
Just uploaded my interview with Mark Dillon - fun, fun, fun unpacking how he researched and recruited for "50 Sides of The Beach Boys."

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/prayforsurf-interview-with-mark-dillon.html

Phil Miglioratti talked with Mark Dillon, author of "50 Sides of the Beach Boys: The Songs That Tell Their Stories." Mark unpacked the process of how he researched the history and recruited the 50 exclusive interviews with the Beach Boys and their friends/colleagues. 50 songs. 50 stories. 50 VERY interesting backstories!
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New book for spring 2012: 50 Sides of The Beach Boys on: September 07, 2016, 10:13:39 AM
SPECIAL NOTE ~ Just posted an interview with Mark Dillon, author of 50 Sides of The Beach Boys

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/

Phil Miglioratti talked with Mark Dillon, author of "50 Sides of the Beach Boys: The Songs That Tell Their Stories." Mark unpacked the process of how he researched the history and recruited the 50 exclusive interviews with the Beach Boys and their friends/colleagues.
50 songs. 50 stories. 50 VERY interesting backstories!

Little Girl I Once Knew first song on Pet Sounds?
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Scott Wilson's Book on: September 02, 2016, 06:14:21 PM
Posted an interview with Scott Wilson's Son of a Beach Boy writing partner:
http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/pray-for-surf-interview-phil_1.html?q=interview,
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Interview / Podcasts on: September 02, 2016, 04:50:24 PM
Exclusive interview with Scott Wilson's writing partner for "Son of a Beach Boy"

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/pray-for-surf-interview-phil_1.html

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/search?q=interviews
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / Book Reviews / Re: The Beach Boys In Concert - Ian Rusten & Jon Stebbins on: April 29, 2016, 10:31:09 PM
" Every fan of the band should own this great book!"

Absolutely ... which is why I was grateful to both Ian and Jon for the interviews they did with me when the book was released;

Mega thanks to you both!

Phil

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/podcast-researching-legacy-of-beach-boys.html
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Interviews with authors of books on the Beach Boys on: March 19, 2016, 01:52:45 PM
Mark's replies are substantive and revealing. The book is the same from front to back.

Great interview! Thanks for sharing it.
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45  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Interviews with authors of books on the Beach Boys on: March 19, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
FYI - Just posted an interview with Mark Moore, the author of The Jan & Dean Record.

Outstanding job of research, backstories, analysis ... major focus on Jan Berry & Brian Wilson relationship!

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2016/03/prayforsurf-interview-mark-moore-author.html

Phil
PrayForSurf
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Interviews with authors of books on the Beach Boys on: December 21, 2015, 09:38:39 AM
Podcast ~ Researching the Legacy of the Beach Boys

Ian Rustin, co-author with Jon Stebbins of The Beach Boys in Concert: The Complete History of America's Band On Tour and Onstage, brings this exhaustively researched resource to life with the story behind the stories ...


... How he connected the dots of David Marks' mother's tour diaries, college yearbooks, advertisements and reviews in city newspapers, interviews with eyewitnesses who know the real stories of the early days of the Beach Boys career (such as longtime Beach Boys friend and associate Fred Vail) ...

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/podcast-researching-legacy-of-beach-boys.html

More podcasts and interviews @ PrayForSurfBlog.blogspot.com
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Interviews with authors of books on the Beach Boys on: December 21, 2015, 09:33:39 AM
Exclusive interview with Johnny Morgan, author of The Beach Boys: America's Band.

A few of the topics he covers: British vs America fans, most disappointing album, Little Girl I Once Knew, why Pet Sounds is the most misunderstood album ...

http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/interview-with-author-of-beach-boys.html
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: new coffeetable book by Johnny Morgan on: December 16, 2015, 03:19:50 PM
Exclusive interview with Johnny Morgan, author of The Beach Boys: America's Band. A few of the topics he covers: British vs America fans, most disappointing album, Little Girl I Once Knew, why Pet Sounds is the most misunderstood album ... http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/interview-with-author-of-beach-boys.html
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson biography due September 29th on: October 26, 2015, 07:36:19 AM
FWIW, my podcast with Kent Crowely: http://prayforsurfblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-other-brilliant-beach-boys-story-of.html ... and my Amazon review:     The publisher/editor made a mistake ... technically, this is NOT a biography. It is an analysis. An analysis of the unheralded and mostly unrecognized critical role Carl Wilson played (pun partially intended) on every album and in every chapter of the Beach Boys career. For example, the author uncovers Carl's brilliance in simply his choice of (and when he changed) guitars and the way he attacked them (or did not attack them) as he played. Simply suggesting his neighborhood friend join the band when Alan originally left after their first single did more than add another body; it helped complete their early sound. Carl was a non-card carrying but active "member" of the Wrecking Crew on the albums that propelled the Beach Boys "bom bom dip di dit" to those gorgeous pet sounds.

Crowley is chronicling Carl's ascendancy, which has been overshadowed by his elder brother's genius. Great musician. Singer. Producer. Songwriter. Arranger. Studio/Stage manager. Brian? Of course, everyone knows that. But Carl? Yeah, him too. Now everybody knows that.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Becoming the Beach Boys, 1961-1963 -- Available Now! on: August 31, 2015, 06:16:55 PM
Worked fine for me on my cell phone - Hope you can get a listen ...

Is this the link you used?
https://archive.org/details/JimMurphyInterview

Phil


wish I could find a way to jack the volume. comes thru almost as a whisper for me, and my volumes are set to 100%
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