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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: March 19, 2019, 02:08:59 PM
Why do so many people on this board pretend that Brian live is good? This guy shouldn't be out on tour-the video's I've seen are really of a guy who seems almost forced to be participating in a show...

So you're basing your opinion of these shows on tinny sounding videos made by a microphone/camera as small as a grain of rice, which is then uploaded in a lossy format to youtube, and probably listened to on speakers the size of two grains of rice on your phone?

In person these shows are phenomenal...his backing band helps immensely even when Brian isn't on point for a few songs. Is Brian the 23 year old kid we hear on the records? Heck no, and he hasn't been since he was 23. His voice has changed every year of his existence, it's been ravaged by years of smoking and drug use, and he is now 76 yet still out there putting on a show. We're beyond lucky we can still see him perform, and I think most fans know what they're getting into when they buy tickets.

 w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!  Right on, Rab!

Honestly, has anyone heard Brian's band sound less than spectacular? I know they're terribly self-critical and some fans grab comments from them with that modesty and say they had a bad night. Brian has physical challenges these days, but performs anyway. My last experience about 4 months ago, he sang less, but better. Someone I respect here on the Board was at the same show and was disappointed that Brian didn't smile and engage the audience. I'm sorry I forget about, and don't notice those things. I realize some fans really want that.  Brian may or may not smile at you (but the band will engage), and there will be wonderful music at the show. I guess I don't understand the problem. If you want to see Brian and band, buy a ticket. If you don't, don't buy a ticket. I think that's pretty simple.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dick Dale RIP on: March 18, 2019, 12:56:54 PM
I found it fascinating to learn today that Dick Dale's "Misirlou" is an Arabic word and that he was of Lebanese/Syrian ancestry; thus, the musical influence on this.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine on: March 13, 2019, 03:24:52 PM

Thanks for sharing this - it was wonderfully written.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 10, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
"Mess of Help" would be a great showcase for Blondie!

That it would.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Golden Globes Shout Out to Brian's Long-time Manager on: January 10, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Apropos of very little, but Jeff Bridges shares a birthday (December 4) with...Dennis Wilson.


And with . . . myself.

I forgot that Jeff shared Denny's birthday - and so do you!  I was born just after midnight on Dec 5th (Denny was born about an hour before midnight on Dec. 4th), so we seem to be forming a gang of sorts.  Cheesy
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Golden Globes Shout Out to Brian's Long-time Manager on: January 09, 2019, 04:14:30 PM
Apropos of very little, but Jeff Bridges shares a birthday (December 4) with...Dennis Wilson.

Let me join the conga line thanking Debbie for posting that video. It should also be noted that the NYT dissed Jeff's acceptance speech, which was actually a superb piece of controlled stream-of-consciousness with a tremendous, subtle exhortation of hope and perseverance in these troubled times. "Love and Mercy" indeed...

Thx so much Don. I know the NYT, and to a "kind of" extent, RS dissed Jeff Bridges and his inspiring and good-hearted acceptance speech.  Some people thought he sounded a bit airy-fairy in reference to the comment about the amazing Buckminster Fuller and a trimtab. Well, Trimtab is a brilliant metaphor for an individual being able to steer/guide the future by simple, small, positive actions - like a trimtab is a small, real functioning part of ships and aircraft that can change everything. If anyone wants to read a more technical reference as to what a trimtab is, I posted the simplest answer I could on BrianWilson.com from my sailing and flying days. You'll also understand why Jeff knew he didn't have time to explain it.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Golden Globes Shout Out to Brian's Long-time Manager on: January 09, 2019, 03:49:31 PM
Thanks for posting this Debbie, with the video too! A much-deserved shout-out for Jean...and great to see some camera time too. I was going to post something about this too, because I stayed tuned in to NBC after the Eagles game (E A G L E S!), and I never watch awards shows unless someone I really like or respect is going to get a feature. In this case, after hearing Jeff Bridges was getting a lifetime honor, I had to watch. It was really, really cool to see him (and the cameras) acknowledge his manager Jean during his speech. Again, a well-deserved nod and kudos to Jeff, Jean, and the rest of his team who helped bring us fans a lot of joy through his work. Same goes for Brian Wilson.

And since I'm one to not resist things like this...It's only more fuel to expose how foolish that peanut gallery of online naysayers really is, those "fans" who for how many years at this point have kept it up with the critiquing the "wife-and-managers" line of bullcrap.  Smiley  So much for that.

Great for Jean getting some recognition. Is Jean the only female manager ever associated with this group or any of its members?

Jean worked for the Lippin Group, so both Ronnie Lippin and Jean managed Brian in the earlier days. Ronnie and her husband ran the highly successful Lippin Group, and she was one of the sweetest people I ever met. She sadly lost her life to cancer not long after the Smile concerts at RFH. Obviously, Jean carried on well from there.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Golden Globes Shout Out to Brian's Long-time Manager on: January 09, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
Thanks for posting this Debbie, with the video too! A much-deserved shout-out for Jean...and great to see some camera time too. I was going to post something about this too, because I stayed tuned in to NBC after the Eagles game (E A G L E S!), and I never watch awards shows unless someone I really like or respect is going to get a feature. In this case, after hearing Jeff Bridges was getting a lifetime honor, I had to watch. It was really, really cool to see him (and the cameras) acknowledge his manager Jean during his speech. Again, a well-deserved nod and kudos to Jeff, Jean, and the rest of his team who helped bring us fans a lot of joy through his work. Same goes for Brian Wilson.

And since I'm one to not resist things like this...It's only more fuel to expose how foolish that peanut gallery of online naysayers really is, those "fans" who for how many years at this point have kept it up with the critiquing the "wife-and-managers" line of bullcrap.  Smiley  So much for that.

Thx, GF. Jean is a wonder-woman from all the people I speak to, and from my own personal experience. She gives new meaning to the idea of efficiency, and her heart and personal taste in clients is pretty amazing. And yes, the idea that Brian hasn't been managed by an important professional is truly ridiculous.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Golden Globes Shout Out to Brian's Long-time Manager on: January 08, 2019, 05:09:53 PM
It was great to see Jeff Bridges receiving a life-time achievement award at the Golden Globes and calling out his long-time manager/publicist Jean Sievers - she's briefly seen in the video. She also has been a great manager/publicist to Brian. She's amazing. I think either account would be a full-time job.  Any Brian fan who knows her probably loves her. I do:   https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/jeff-bridges-golden-globes-speech-775580/
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anniversary of Dennis’s death on: December 30, 2018, 02:21:23 PM
We also forget that his grandson, Dennis was born on this same day a few years ago. Denny lives on in so many ways.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 24, 2018, 04:48:38 PM

May we all enjoy Happy Holidays. I think this was originally intended to honor and thank those who've worked so hard to maintain and support SS. I think that's a great place to end. But that's just my opinion, which is worth what any opinion is worth. Grin
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 24, 2018, 04:41:51 PM
This makes my heart smile.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrtKBHKngbD/

I know it's probably nothing but maybe a possible contender for the Rock 'n Roll album?

I came here to see if anyone had posted this. What a moment.
Something like this really makes me realize and remember why Brian Wilson is so special. I think I've said this before, but I would love more than anything to have an entire album of just Brian, with only his voice and piano. Hell, it doesn't even need to be recorded professionally.

I know quite a few people here have mentioned how they would love Rick Rubin to produce a BW album...give it that same feel as his Johnny Cash work. I don't think this is something Brian would even be willing to try and do, and I don't think it would work even if it did happen. But the idea of Brian with minimal but tasteful production is nice to think about. The IJWMFTTs soundtrack is probably the closest we'll get to something like that, I just wish we had a newer version now that Brian's vocals are sounding much better than that era.
Think about this for a moment; GIOMH is Brian half assing his way through a pretty lousy album. But Brian can still half ass it through something like his "home grown" version of "Heaven" and have the results be breathtaking. He just needs to be doing material that he wants and likes to sing.

This is very true. You can tell when Brian is really into something or not.

He makes it abundantly clear, doesn't he? I think there have been times when his support team didn't realize that he really lacked interest until it was too late - or he changed his mind. But then, that's just a poorly-educated guess.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 23, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
Please do not ban me for this somewhat edgy joke...

I think General Mattis may be available to mod over at PS(F).  police

Those who didn't live through the situation that created two boards should understand that the mods here were faced with a very wrenching set of decisions that were neither made nor implemented lightly.

That history cannot (and must not) be erased or forgotten or deleted. Unpleasant as it may have been (and still is), we need the reminder--and we need to understand a key fact that unfortunately does come into play from time to time in families, communities, and civilizations:

--Some people simply cannot be forgiven.

That is what we are faced with. The mods here go as far as anyone in terms of indulgence and forgiveness. Anyone who mods any BB group has an essentially thankless task. Our guys make the right decision upwards of 95% of the time, and the decisions they made which led to the creation of PS(F) were on the money.

The divorce courts call it "irreconcilable differences." We should acknowledge that and sail on--and, speaking of which, who isn't glad to see Brian in that Instagram post so thoroughly enjoying himself while singing with Al? Let's all celebrate the fact that they are still with us--and that there are still two credible choices for direct contact with the people who made the music we all love so much. Let's take advantage of that, in whatever way we see fit, while that opportunity continues to exist...

Perfectly said. I support the mods here and appreciate all that they do. Whatever is happening behind the scenes, I know Billy and Craig are honest and dedicated people. May all of you have a wonderful Holiday.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 21, 2018, 06:32:08 PM
It’s a crazy world we live in today.  Let’s hope love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control prevail in these crazy times. Happy holidays to everyone.


^ Seconded!

Agreed!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 21, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
Yeah, but nothing's been done. Just like in the past. Thanks to spineless or incompetent moderators on PS Forum who openly lied and distorted to suit the needs of that place, this board is dragged through the mud, lies are allowed to stand, and it's swept under the carpet? No apologies, no comments about fixing things moving forward, taking future action to avoid this bullshit again...nothing.

Doesn't fly where I'm concerned. Sorry. If people are still posting lies and they're being believed, we just drop it and sing Kum-Bye-A together like nothing happened? Keep turning the other cheek and get cold-cocked until we have a jaw broken in multiple places? Nope. Not happenin'.

As far as the new sets of music, yeah they're great, terrific listening - Kudos especially to Mark and Alan. But I'm proud to say I didn't pay a dime for them and got them for free online. My principle is, if certain names are attached and others left off of any project related to the Beach Boys, I don't give them a dime or a penny of my money. Best money I never spent.

GF - I haven't commented much about this part of the thread, since I've never visited PS forum, nor will I. I don't have the stomach to deal with any of those people anymore.  What I can say is I truly appreciate your insistence on correcting lies wherever you see them. That's really admirable. Selfishly, some of the lies were probably more than once, about me, so that's appreciated too. So, thanks again.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 21, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
Ah I remember being a new fan as well. Twenty three years goes by quickly apparently!

 What are your favorites?

And to re-direct the topic back to Billy's question upthread to me (sorry--I would have responded sooner but was out all day). My favorites shift around regularly, but "Wouldn't It Be Nice," "Please Let Me Wonder," "God Only Knows," "Love and Mercy," Pet Sounds, SMiLE, and most through the late 1970s, and some pre-Pet Sounds songs. Also love the quirky Zappa-like songs of Brian Wilson (a long-time Zappa fan). Back to the BBs, I love what most of you on the board love, but became a fan on the spot after going to a Brian Wilson concert with someone else and was blown away--then started listening and reading. I am amazed at the knowledge here on the board.

Wild Honey through Holland are my favorite recordings by anybody....not just the Beach Boys, I mean literally everybody.

Here's a confession that I never thought I would make...as great as Pet Sounds and SMiLE are, I think Wild Honey and Friends are even better.

Billy, I hope I'm not throwing this thread off, but I just saw your post. When I met Brian in '69, he asked me, "what's your favorite album, I mean besides 'Pet Sound'." That final part was sweet and a little sad at the same time. When I replied "Friends," I think his response was the most excited I'd ever seen him, "Yes, me too, yes!" "Wild Honey" and "Friends" were both so brilliant as Brian went full-on into other genres and immediately mastered them. The brilliance is astoundng.

This story makes me so happy! Friends is my second favorite, and I consider it to be a part of Brian's select albums that deal with his life story: Pet Sounds, Friends, Love You, and No Pier Pressure. Each of those albums has some type of charm and eloquence that is pure Brian Wilson.

Rab - you nailed it. I hadn't through about it, but those albums really work.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 21, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
Ah I remember being a new fan as well. Twenty three years goes by quickly apparently!

 What are your favorites?

And to re-direct the topic back to Billy's question upthread to me (sorry--I would have responded sooner but was out all day). My favorites shift around regularly, but "Wouldn't It Be Nice," "Please Let Me Wonder," "God Only Knows," "Love and Mercy," Pet Sounds, SMiLE, and most through the late 1970s, and some pre-Pet Sounds songs. Also love the quirky Zappa-like songs of Brian Wilson (a long-time Zappa fan). Back to the BBs, I love what most of you on the board love, but became a fan on the spot after going to a Brian Wilson concert with someone else and was blown away--then started listening and reading. I am amazed at the knowledge here on the board.

Wild Honey through Holland are my favorite recordings by anybody....not just the Beach Boys, I mean literally everybody.

Here's a confession that I never thought I would make...as great as Pet Sounds and SMiLE are, I think Wild Honey and Friends are even better.

Billy, I hope I'm not throwing this thread off, but I just saw your post. When I met Brian in '69, he asked me, "what's your favorite album, I mean besides 'Pet Sound'." That final part was sweet and a little sad at the same time. When I replied "Friends," I think his response was the most excited I'd ever seen him, "Yes, me too, yes!" "Wild Honey" and "Friends" were both so brilliant as Brian went full-on into other genres and immediately mastered them. The brilliance is astoundng.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Border Crossings Al Jardine Interview on: December 16, 2018, 12:01:13 PM
Just about to watch. Sounds good.

https://youtu.be/JdM_mSsBWCk


Edit: Pretty good interview and format. Certainly better than either Brian or Mike.  Interesting how he mentions ‘don’t believe the naysayers’ when he mentions interactions between members.

Thx so much for sharing that. Loved both the interview and Al's vocals. He is absolutely amazing, sounding like that at this point in time. I just saw him with Brian live about a month ago, and his calm, intelligent, often amused approach to whatever happens adds to what he contributes as an artist. The man is a treasure.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys reference in SNL (I think) on: December 16, 2018, 11:14:55 AM
They used this picture to promote the latest episode:



When I saw it the first thing that came to mind was The Beach Boys's Christmas Album, but maybe it's an iconic sort of image and I'm just not very familiar with it...

Hadn't seen this - thx!
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 16, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Lee! Grin

What would we do without all of you? Laugh a lot less, I'm thinking. Thx for making this fun.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 12, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
Thanks so much GF...and it wouldn't be even close to what it is without your hard work and all those of you who make it happen.

Agreed 100%. I think back to three or more years ago when Guitarfool was being harassed on every corner of this board and some people wanted him gone because he was trying to clean up this place. Yet this forum is now a haven of incredible information with pretty much zero drama. As JK said above, the recent Barney Kessel topic is a testament to the depth of knowledge that is ever present on this forum.

A major thanks to GF, Billy, and the countless others who make this place such a special and necessary part of the fandom. I've been a member for almost 10 years now, and I can't wait to see what the next 10 bring!

Agreed Rab...GF and Billy both put up with an unbelievable amount of crap, some of it defending me and my right to tell the truth here, and I truly appreciate it. I suspect there were things behind the scenes that they also cleaned up that we'll never know about. Some of the shadows of what was going on there was pretty obvious, but they had to deal with it all. That took guts. The people with ugly and/or self-serving agendas, along with some serious head-case trolls and liars appear to be gone. That's a big deal.

Now to the positive side of why this place still thrives - lots of knowledge and intelligence still gives this board fascinating, up-to-date info. It's a treasure without the trauma of the past. We owe these people a lot!
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 11, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
Plus OSD in a Santa costume taking donations!
And happily putting all proceeds into the "Take The License Away" fund. Keep those donations coming!  Evil
LOL Don’t forget narrating Mount Vernon and the fairway with lee Marshall during the encore!

It all works for me.  Grin
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 11, 2018, 02:59:51 PM
Thanks so much GF...and it wouldn't be even close to what it is without your hard work and all those of you who make it happen.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 05, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
At a soundcheck a couple weeks ago, they were trying out a medley of “We Three Kings” and “Winter Symphony.” For “Winter Symphony,” Brian was on lead throughout. I thought the transition between songs worked very well. Here’s some fuzzy audio of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSUpsCgsFw

Thx so much for sharing that!
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday, Dennis! on: December 04, 2018, 09:56:51 AM
An amazing spirit lives on - through his music and his overall energy.
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