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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2018-2021) on: March 03, 2022, 06:30:47 AM
Wendy sang lead on Sail on Sailor. Bobby did not sing lead on anything. The set list posted looks correct, to my recollection. Will post more later.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2018-2021) on: February 25, 2022, 11:37:44 AM
I just checked the tickets for the Bethesda MD show and am kinda shocked at how many seats are still available ...
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian going on tour with Chicago next summer on: December 01, 2021, 04:39:20 AM
Anyone know of a presale code?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / random Brian merch from recent tour on: November 19, 2021, 09:34:16 PM
I got VIP tickets to the most recent concert and Ticketmaster sent me too much merchandise (possibly the first time in history that anyone has gotten anything "for free" from TM).  Anyway, I don't need multiples of this stuff so am wondering if there's anyone in the DC area that would like it?  I could do a contactless pickup in DC.  A small-sized poster, two laminated tickets and a commemorative coin.  

Also up for grabs are two BB shirts that my husband no longer wears.  Just ones from Target - nothing fancy.  Would fit men M/L.  

5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / random Brian merch from recent tour on: November 19, 2021, 09:32:34 PM
I got VIP tickets to the most recent concert and Ticketmaster sent me too much merchandise (possibly the first time in history that anyone has gotten anything "for free" from TM).  Anyway, I don't need multiples of this stuff so am wondering if there's anyone in the DC area that would like it?  I could do a contactless pickup in DC.  A small-sized poster, two laminated tickets and a commemorative coin. 

Also up for grabs are two BB shirts that my husband no longer wears.  Just ones from Target - nothing fancy.  Would fit men M/L. 

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Game-Time: Can You Guess The Song? on: August 27, 2021, 09:20:32 PM
This as really fun but I’m too embarrassed to post my score!  Roll Eyes
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis' homelessness on: July 24, 2021, 11:22:38 AM
Sorry, I should have been more precise. I realize that Carl did try to help and Brian, in his own way, probably did too.  What I meant to say is that by all accounts neither of them was very well equipped to tackle the particular problem of addiction.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis' homelessness on: July 24, 2021, 07:32:58 AM
Why didn't Brian and Carl help him beat his addictions? Have you heard the expression "that's like the blind leading the blind"?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Acapulco Girls on: July 23, 2021, 10:08:41 PM
The reporter talking about music that’s “perfect for beach parties” with a facial expression that looks like he should be reporting on a tragic accident is amazing.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread on: July 23, 2021, 10:05:55 PM
Yes the prices for the DC show are brutal.  But…after a year and a half of no live music, I’m desperate to go.  Which I suspect Ticketmaster is banking on.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 15 Big Ones or LA (Light Album) - Which do you prefer of the two? on: June 14, 2021, 12:17:54 AM
I'm pretty ambivalent about these two albums but if forced to choose I guess I'd choose 15BO.

The question did, however, make me realize that my favorite song off each is an Al song (Suzie Cincinnati and Lady Lynda).
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Czechoslovakia concerts in 1969 on: March 26, 2021, 10:37:14 PM
Not much..but Mike Love put up a Facebook post when his band returned in June 2019 to play the Lucerna Concert Hall, Prague (the venue for the first of their 3 concerts in the country back in 1969).
It said...


"FREE TO ROCK

Sunday night had to be one of the most amazing events of our career. Fifty years ago (June 17th 1969), The Beach Boys performed in Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague. Our three performances in the country were the first by a western rock band behind The Iron Curtain.

That concert is indelibly imprinted in my memory. The memories are not only of the show, as our first impressions were formed during our landing. We chartered a plane in London to fly to Prague. It was the most intimidating sight that I have witnessed in thousands of landings. To the left side of the runway were dozens of Russian MiG-19 and MiG-21 fighter jets and to right were dozens of Russian T-55 and T-62 tanks. This was obviously staged by the Soviet military to intimidate…and it did. A year earlier, Operation Danube was a joint invasion of Czechoslovakia by nearly 250,000 troops from five Warsaw Pact countries – the Soviet Union, Poland, Bulgaria, East Germany and Hungary.

Despite all that they had been through, the people of Czechoslovakia welcomed us with open arms. We represented rock ‘n roll, the USA and something in short supply at the time – freedom. How fitting that we were promoting our new single, Break Away, which we performed that night I will never forget the concert at Lucerna Great Hall on June 17th, 1969. The audience response was thunderous, the hall was jam-packed and there was no air conditioning. The walls and pillars of the 1920’s hall were damp from the humidity of humanity. In our entire career, we’ve never had a more tumultuous reception.

Sunday night, we performed in that in that very same hall. And at midnight we celebrated the 50th anniversary of that monumental concert. Not much has changed in that in that historic hall…but outside those walls, it’s a different story. Freedom reigns in the beautiful countries of the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Once again, we felt the love and appreciation. A total emotional experience for all of us.

The film, Free to Rock, was released in 2017 and The Beach Boys are a part of that amazing documentary. The film was produced by Jim Brown and shows the power of music to create freedom. I am proud, yet humbled, to know that our music has connected with the hearts of millions, regardless of race and religion, language, ethnicity or geography. People feel the love, as we do, every night. It is said that home is where the heart is… and Sunday night back in Prague, we were home.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4287080/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl "

Thanks!  I hadn’t seen that post of Mike’s.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Czechoslovakia concerts in 1969 on: March 26, 2021, 10:35:23 PM
There is a book by Dick Heckstall-Smith, the saxophonist from Colosseum, "The Safest Plece in the World", which has the first-hand account of a working musician; it includes some BB-related anecdotes like having to rely on a battery from a Soviet tank for their PA, and a rather huge section on a socio-political analysis - but it must be said that he was a "tankie".

Thanks so much!  I had never heard of this so will check it out. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Czechoslovakia concerts in 1969 on: March 22, 2021, 08:52:19 PM
Hi all, I'm trying to find out if anything of any length has been written about the Czechoslovakia concerts in 1969 (Prague, Bratislava and Brno).  I've read the thread in which Stephen Desper provides excellent information on the Prague show, but wonder if anyone has written anything else in any depth that touches on the political aspects of an American band playing in Czechoslovakia at that time.  Thanks in advance. 
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: February 26, 2021, 01:37:51 PM
Do we know why Brian wasn’t involved?

Isn't it obvious?

If it was obvious to me, I wouldn’t have asked.  He’s posted a few videos of him singing at home (at least he did earlier in the quarantine) so I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be a snippet of him here. 
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: February 26, 2021, 01:26:29 PM
Do we know why Brian wasn’t involved?
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: shirt on: February 22, 2021, 09:20:51 AM
And so it begins?

Target started selling this shirt months ago. Quite a long time before the news of the buyout/whatever you want to call it, so I think it's just a coincidence.

By the way, I bought it - it's a good shirt, but beware; it really shrinks in the dryer!
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Phil Spector Dead on: January 17, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
I worry this will hit Brian very hard.

I wouldn't want to predict what's in Brian's head, but I'll note that the man is a survivor.  He's endured a lot in his 78.5 years, and while Spector was a huge influence on him musically, the two are not now and never have been personally close.  God rest his soul, but Spector was a violent man and crazy (and not a good kinda crazy).

I completely agree with everything you said.  What I meant is that we know, even just on a simplistic level, it's hard to watch your contemporaries die.  And brian has said Phil Spector was his most important influence ever, so I imagine it will be very sad for Brian.  That's all.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Phil Spector Dead on: January 17, 2021, 08:56:41 AM
I worry this will hit Brian very hard.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stereogum: ''Mike Love’s Beach Boys played for a packed, mask-less crowd' on: January 01, 2021, 10:31:27 PM
Here is the post Mike's Facebook page put up for New Year.   Nice sentiments but it would be even nicer if he actually walked the walk.  Really incredible.

We wish everyone a Happy New Year🎉 One filled with more friendliness and less animosity. Less selfishness and more generosity, an abundance of caring and compassion. The world needs all of us to do our best to manifest more kindness so that the coming year and years to come see an evolution of humanity, peace on earth and good will towards everyone no matter where on earth they may be.
Stay safe, optimistic, healthy and joyful🙏
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stereogum: ''Mike Love’s Beach Boys played for a packed, mask-less crowd' on: January 01, 2021, 05:19:43 PM
Is it established that this was in fact Mike's Beach Boys, or a cover band?
I may be proven wrong, but I don't think Mike is stupid enough to do a gig like that.
But if he did, the only rationale I can come up with is suicide.

There's footage of the evening and Mike is onstage with a band that I didn't recognize, but the clip was only a couple of seconds so I couldn't see very well. 
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: December 22, 2020, 07:06:27 PM
I certainly don't think that single songs can be classed as among the BB's top career blunders.  Sure, a lot of people dislike the disco version of HCTN  (I happen to like it) but it can hardly be blamed for any kind of longlasting effect on the band's reputation.  These things are but a drop in the bucket.  And on the topic of single songs, it surprises me that anyone can suggest that Kokomo was a career mistake.  You might not like the song, but it was THE song when it came out and completely brought them into the spotlight for a considerable amount of time.  I mean, it was a phenomenon.  It can hardly be called a bad career move. 

Looking at the bigger picture, I think the tour/license arrangement (and all of the decisions leading up to it, including continuing to tour right after Carl's death) is really THE bad career move.  Sure, they made many missteps and lost opportunities, but nothing failed to put a dent in their status as rock legends and the recognition of Brian as a genius.  However, what Mike has done as a result of having the license truly does threaten the band's image and legacy.  Playing piddly little shows, shilling for very questionable political interests, remaking i.e. destroying beloved songs...all of this slowly chips away at their legacy.  They should be widely recognized as the greatest American band ever but sadly the average listener just sees them as an oldies act, and I really, really think Mike is to blame for that.   
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Trump fundraiser in Orange County featuring Mike and 'The Beach Boys' on: October 21, 2020, 08:10:11 PM
Can we also talk about Bruce for a second?  He gets away practically scot-free with all this crap.  I know Mike calls the shots, but what, is Bruce suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?  No, he's a wealthy, grown man with free will, he doesn't have to keep touring and doing these highly questionable shows.  He gets  a tiny fraction of the criticism that Mike gets, despite going along with EVERY one of Mike's terrible, polarizing and hurtful actions.  I understand that his own political views are clearly similar to Mike's, but surely he can see the problems that these actions cause for Brian, Al, etc...We talk about Mike being a narcissist (which he is) but Bruce isn't much better. 
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Trump fundraiser in Orange County featuring Mike and 'The Beach Boys' on: October 21, 2020, 08:01:51 PM
The irony in all this talking about dogs and what constitutes animal abuse - which I'm sure people reading the thread are thinking is off topic with regards to The BBs, and I'm practically waiting for someone to angrily post about how dare we discuss this on a Beach Boys forum - is that it doesn't take much to get the convo back on topic of The Beach Boys intertwined with Trump adjacent stuff, one only needs to think back to February of this year and the actions of good ol' ethical, good, decent person Mike E. Love.

Just take advice from Mike, and the decent people he associates with and shills for, and the shows he plays under the Beach Boys name, and go shoot some animals for kicks, shits, and giggles... and then maybe the right course of action on how to treat misbehaving animals (you know, when animals do naughty things like actually living and breathing) will become apparent.

 

I will never forgive Mike for that.  I'm not even talking about the ethics of hunting wildlife, but rather the off-the-charts hypocrisy of Mike peace-love-and-protect-the-environment Love playing for a trophy hunting organization.  I vowed then I'd never go see him again and it pains me that any BB purchases I make benefit him.  At this point, I feel nothing but anxiety at the prospect of a 60 anniversary tour because my feelings towards Mike are so negative.   
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Trump fundraiser in Orange County featuring Mike and 'The Beach Boys' on: October 21, 2020, 07:44:02 PM
marcella27: A baby?  Really?  Babies don't engage in behavior that attempts to harm others.  Of course not.
About the rest of your post- sure, you're right, when you tangentically take this into caring for animals over the course of their lives - of course you need to identify problem behaviors and solve them without aggression. 
Your dog thinks like it is in a pack that you lead.  In the moment, when it is harming another living being, you attempt to overrule it with your voice, it can be aggressive and intimidating, and it is not psychological terror. 
This is getting pretty far off topic. 

Like I said, if my dog was harming another living being, I would do what I needed to do in that moment to do to stop it, and that would most likely involve shouting.  But that's an extreme example.  My point was that shouting as a form of "training" is counterproductive and can be very damaging.  And yes we are wildly off-topic, but you'd be surprised at what some people think is acceptable treatment of pets, and I feel pretty strongly about it based on what I've seen and experienced.  

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