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76  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New book: Hollywood Eden on: September 01, 2021, 03:49:29 AM
Mark Moore’s book on Jan berry is a lot better
77  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 25, 2021, 06:34:19 PM
Not defending Mike-but I think over the years people embellish their stories to make them more interesting and forget what the truth is...I have seen anecdotes  where some musician talked about meeting Brian at a 1965 session with him wandering around in a bathrobe.....I guarantee that when the guy met Brian in 1965 he was not in a bathrobe but Brian was well known for doing that in the early 70s so he added it to his story to juice it up.....It happens all the time....
78  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 25, 2021, 04:56:54 AM
Well…of course if you are interested in total historical accuracy they are a waste of time…..I mean if someone ask me what I did THIS PAST JUNE I really have to think about it but we expect someone like Mike Love to accurately recall what happened at a recording session on February 10 1967 …etc.  But that doesn’t mean that you cannot learn a lot about a person that interests you by reading an autobiography and if the person is a great raconteur who can tell a good story than great! Notable autobiography’s that I really enjoyed include Keith Richard’s Life, David Niven’s The Moon’s a Balloon and Bring on the Empty Horses and Bob Dylan’s Chronicles.  That doesn’t mean that I think every word is true-many stories in all three books have inaccuracies but as long as you accept that you’ll have a good read.
79  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 24, 2021, 01:44:29 PM
Answering my own questions-I see that Manson's new probation officer learned he was living with Dennis by June 3 1968 and visited Dennis's mansion on June 6 1968
80  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 23, 2021, 09:20:14 PM
One thing I noticed though is that the timeline for Dennis is complicated. The book suggests that the summer of 1968 was one of endless partying by Dennis with the family but Dennis was on the road from July 1 to July 17 and again from August 2 to August 24, so that summer was not really a long one. Seems more like the family was hanging out at his house and when he was around he participated. Summer really seems to mean late May-June 1968 when the BBs were not touring.
81  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, Don Everly on: August 22, 2021, 10:24:30 AM
Backstage at the Huballoo Club
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THIS WEEK IN BB HISTORY AUG 20-27 on: August 21, 2021, 05:52:14 PM
Yeah-I think Bruce was exaggerating. Certainly the Spokane review I quoted suggests they played to a half empty hall
83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / THIS WEEK IN BB HISTORY AUG 20-27 on: August 21, 2021, 06:27:31 AM
Aug 20 1962-The BBs promoted their first single for Capitol with appearances at the Tustin Playhouse-with Timi Yuro (famous for the song “Hurt”-which was covered by Elvis, in the 1970s) and Dorsey Burnette and at The Broadway Store branches in downtown LA and in the Del Amo Mall -with Bobby Rydell.  Over the following four days they sang and signed autographs at The Broadway Store locations in West Covina, Pasadena, Orange County, Whittier, Westchester Crenshaw and Long Beach. On August 25 the BBs made appearances at the Broadway Store in Hollywood and Panorama City. That evening they also appeared at the Reseda Jubilee with Jan and Dean (current single was “My Favorite Dream.”. As of now-this is the first documented co-appearance of the two groups-with the BBs backing the duo during their set.  On Aug 26 1962-The BBs opened their first residency at Pandora’s Box on the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles (three shows a night).

August 20 1963-The BBs were on their first nation-wide summer tour-promoting their new single “Surfer Girl/Little Deuce Coupe.” David was still in the group but by this point Al was also touring in place of Brian, who was back in California. On August 20 the BBs played at the Reinhold Brothers Hall in Transfer PA, followed by shows at West View Park Danceland in Pittsburgh, PA and the Wheeling Downs Roller Rink in WV.  Murry was far too busy with his business interests to travel with the group himself and had hired a professional road manager named John Hamilton to chaperone them.  By Murry’s standards, he turned out to be a poor choice, indulging the group’s whims and allegedly even helping young Carl and David lose their virginity while in West Virginia.  On August 23 they played the Stardust Gardens at Le Sourdsville Lake Amusement Park in Ohio and they then appeared in Cedar Lake, Indiana and Sageville Iowa. None of these shows was reviewed-local papers still pretty much ignored the appearances of visiting rock and rollers to town (I have seen one letter column in which a teen complains that adults ignore teen culture and that the BBs appearance in town was more important than other local news that they did cover!)  Brian had apparently abandoned this summer tour very early and he was certainly in California on August 27 1963 at a session for Pamela Jean and After the Game.

Aug 21, 1964-The BBs started another short tour of the Midwest and northeast. They made their first appearance in Cleveland at Euclid Beach Amusement Park on August 21, followed by shows at the Syria Mosque, Pittsburgh, the Memorial Coliseum in Evansville, Indiana, the Allentown Fairgrounds and the Lakewood Ballroom in Barnesville, PA (on August 25-with Angie and the Citations and the Chevelles).

Aug 20-21, 1965-The BBs played two nights at the Memorial Auditorium in Sacramento, CA with Barbara Lewis, The Preps and Group B.  According to Sean O’Callaghan of KXOA, “the Beach Boys certainly put on a show.  For nearly an hour, both nights, they filled the auditorium with so many Beach Boys hits it’s almost impossible to list them.  Although some may have been disappointed at the absence of Brian Wilson, the show certainly did not suffer with the addition of Bruce Johnston.”  The BBs were beginning on work on the Party album and held a session on August 23 to record versions of I Should Have Known Better, Ruby Baby, Satisfaction, Hully Gully and Blowing in the Wind.  They then headed back on the road for shows at the Arena in Sioux Falls, Rosenblatt Stadium in Omaha, the Kentucky State Fairgrounds with the Shangri-Las, Sir Douglas Quintet (famous for “She’s About a Mover”) and The Keyes and the Cincinnati Gardens on August 27, 1965-with The Sir Douglas Quintet, Dave Osborn’s Action Unlimited and Johnny and the Hurricanes.  According to Robert Demarr of the Enquirer, “The biggest delight for the screaming teen-agers was the drum solo by Dennis Wilson in ‘Do You Wanna Dance.’  The show ended with an uproar and more than a hundred outstretched hands when Wilson threw his drumsticks into the screaming crowd.”

Aug 20 1966 the BBs played the Portland Coliseum in Portland, OR with the Tempests, the Live Five and the Tweedy Brothers.  On Aug 24 the BBs (or at least Brian) was at Sunset Sound to make a track edit of Good Vibrations.  The following day at Western, the initial track for Wonderful was recorded. Aug 25, 26 1967-The BBs were at the HIC Arena, Honolulu, Hawaii-with Brian in place of Bruce-with Bobbie Gentry, The Pickle Brothers (25th only), Paul Revere and the Raiders, Dino, Desi, and Billy (26th only) and the Val Richards Five. Of course, as we all know, the rehearsals and shows were recorded by Capitol for a shelved live album. Silent color footage was also shot at the shows, as well as footage of the boys swimming and cycling in Hawaii.  Late Aug? 1967- Some time during this period, Mike produced a potential single for the comedy group the Pickle Brothers (who appeared with them at the Hawaii Shows). It’s not available but has been booted.

Aug 20 1968-The BBs were in the midst of a tour with the Box Tops, Surprise Package and the Pickle Brothers and played the Exhibition Stadium in Regina, Canada. Shows followed at the Edmonton Gardens, the Stampede Corral in Calgary and the Spokane Coliseum on Aug 23 1968. Jack Swanson of the Spokesman Review declared that the “five aging millionaires…drew mixed reactions from the half full Coliseum of young fans…They treated their clapping audience to several old favorites, a bit of teen level smut and some new tunes from their latest hit record…Hecklers interrupted the quiet songs with shouts of ‘speak up’ and ‘where’s your razor?’” The tour wound up with two shows at the High School Auditorium in Boise, Idaho. Bruce was enthusiastic about the tour and told Keith Altham of the NME, “We broke every attendance record in the book! I was beginning to think that with the Cream thing and Jimi Hendrix breaking so big out here, we were dying. But we got unbelievable receptions.”

Aug 22 1969-Brian was at Wally Heider’s Studio with Steve Kalinich to record “America, I Know You” for a potential LP combining Brian’s music and Steve’s poetry. Other Unknown sessions take place for this project until November. Aug 1970-Dennis, who’d married his second wife Barbara on August 4, began work on Two Lane Blacktop. Filming continued into October (post-dubbing took place in 1971).

Aug 20 1972-The BBs played at the Allentown Fairgrounds with the Kinks and Orleans. Ed Roach informed me that “Dennis had a knockdown drag-out fight with Ray Davies of the Kinks after this show.  They fought over this groupie and (the road crew) took Dennis away all bloody.  They really fought it out and I didn’t see Dennis again till we got to New York… and I knocked on his door and the woman, that he had the fight with Ray Davies over, answered the door of his hotel room!”  They must have made up as the two bands shared a bill at the Nassau Coliseum the next night. The BBs than played two shows at Boston Common on August 23 and 24.  While in Boston, Mike, Carl, Al and Billy Hinsche all helped Charles Lloyd record the “TM Song” for his album.  On August 25 1972 the BBs played the Hampton Rhodes Coliseum, VA with Brownsville Station. Reviewer Steve Abramson of the Flat Hat bemoaned the fact that there seemed to be very few new fans at the show.  He was pleasantly surprised that the group played “’Wonderful’ because it represents an experimental period in their career that was unpopular five years ago…The complex vocal workouts in this, ‘Heroes and Villains’ and ‘Surf’s Up’…and ‘Good Vibrations’ proved to me that the Beach Boys are the masters of vocal arrangements.” Two days later the BBs appeared at the Eastside Speedway in Waynesboro, VA.

Aug 20 1973-The BBs played the Schaeffer Center in Foxboro, MA-with Loggins and Messina and Jonathan Edwards.  Stephen Williams, of the Boston Globe, commented, “The group sounded raw and at times competitive, and the programmed selections they are playing during this tour are obviously the songs they want to play, and not always what their audience wants to hear.  There was only an occasional concession to the oldies ‘Surfer Girl’, ‘Sloop John B,’ ‘California Girls.’  The group did a number of their softly pretty ballads but it was evident that a crowd like Mondays wanted loudness before intimacy.” Three days later they played at Danbury Prison-as far as I know this was their last concert at a house of detention. They were at Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT-with Jonathan Edwards and Poco on Aug 24. Henry McNulty of the Hartford Courant singled out two new songs performed this night for special praise, “’River Song,’ by Dennis Wilson, and ‘We Got Love,’ by Ricky Fataar, are both full, rich numbers making full use of the group’s multi-part harmonies.”  They played Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City with Poco and Stanky Brown on Aug 25 and the Hampton Rhodes Coliseum-with Jonathan Edwards on Aug 26.  They played Saratoga Arts Festival on August 27 to over 13,000 people who were there to hear the oldies.  According to Bill Dantini of The Amsterdam Recorder, “It wasn’t until they performed ‘Sloop John B’-an oldie- that the crowd became genuinely excited.  In a sense, this was the story of the evening.  The new songs were received half-heartedly throughout the concert, while the ‘oldies’ frequently brought the crowd to its feet.  Songs like ‘California Girls’, ‘Surfer Girl’, ‘Wouldn’t It Be Nice’ and ‘Surfin’ USA’ all ended in standing ovations.”

Aug 20 1974- Dennis held a session for “My Love Lives On”. On Aug 23 1974 the BBs played at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City with The Eagles. Shows followed at the Capitol Center with The Marshall Tucker Band on Aug 24 and the Norfolk Scope with Marshall Tucker Band and the Eagles on Aug 25. On Aug 26 they played the Roanoke Civic Center-with Marshall Tucker Band.

Aug 20 1975-The BBs played the second of two nights at Pine Knob in Clarkston, MI with Ambrosia. They then played in Dayton and Kalamazoo, followed by a show in Pittsburgh on August 23. Pete Bishop of The Pittsburgh Press noted that “aside from the slower numbers (‘In My Room’, ‘Surfer Girl’ and Dennis Wilson’s rendition of ‘You Are So Beautiful’) and a couple less-familiar ones from the Holland album, every song was an everybody up, clap along, sing along, cheer along, do-the-bump along.” Shows followed in Allentown PA and New Haven with The Captain and Tennille and then Hartford on Aug 26 and Saratoga on Aug 27 with Ambrosia. Scott L. Powers of the Troy Times-Record reported, “The Beach Boys gave a dynamite show, rendering true to the record imitations of all their old hits…The execution in most places was perfect, and in the case of songs like ‘California Girls,’ a little update work made the song stand up, even to today’s musical tastes.  For the most part, Brian Wilson’s songs have stood the test of time.  Not many writers can say the same.”

Aug 20 1976-Dennis held a session for “Schoolgirl”. The following day Brian was in the studio to work on a demo of “Marilyn Rovell” and to record his new vocal for “Sherry, She Needs Me”.  Around this time, he also taped a long TV interview for the Old Grey Whistle Test in the UK-portions of this interview were used in the American Band documentary from 1985.  Meanwhile, Mike visited Europe for one week-making stops in England, France and the Netherlands. He was back in the US by August 26 to appear at the Saratoga Arts Center with the BBs. They played the Providence Civic Center the next night and Anthony Lioce of the Providence Journal noted, “A new horn section has been added and it plays sparingly and tastefully, adding subtle new colors to the bright old sound without overpowering it, as horns have a way of doing.  Carl Wilson has developed into a master guitarist; energetic, clean lines flowed from his hollow-body electric all night long.  And nobody but nobody can cavort like Mike Love.”

Aug 20 1977-The BBs were on their summer tour with Ricci Martin. A slimmed down and short haired Brian was on the road for this tour, which took in the Kentucky State Fair on Aug 20 and the Mississippi River Festival the next night. Chris Sullivan of the Edwardsville Intelligencer noted “They played almost nothing that everyone in the crowd didn’t know all the lyrics too.  There was a nice new song called ‘Airplane’ and a few others that we hadn’t heard before, but otherwise it was all that old wailing ‘ooh-ooh-waa-ahhh.” Shows followed at the Iowa State Fair and then a three-day residency at Pine Knob near Detroit. Dennis apparently played short solo sets at these shows in support of Pacific Ocean Blue-between Ricci Martin’s set and the BBs. Bobby Figueroa told me that they never rehearsed other than a sound check.  “We did a half hour set of mostly Pacific Ocean Blue songs.  Most of us had played on that, so we were all familiar with it.  We did it at Pine Knob and one or two other places but it didn’t last very long”. On Aug 27 1977 the BBs were at Castle Farms Music Theatre in Charlevoix, MI.

Aug 25 1978- The BBs (with Brian) opened a ten-day tour with the reunited Jan and Dean at Buccaneer Stadium in Grand Haven, MI. Unfortunately, Sterling Smith told me that they didn’t get around to rehearsing with Jan and Dean until the bus ride to the show and as a result the show was a bit of a disaster. Jim McFarlin of the Grand Rapids Press declared the Beach Boys performance, “like having sand kicked in your face…It was a melancholy sight to witness Brian Wilson…struggle through a lead vocal or turn away from the microphone in disgust, frustrated over his seeming inability to contribute fully.” They then played at the Alpine Valley Music Theater in Wisconsin followed by a big show at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh on August 26-with Steve Miller, Axis, Barkin Band, Sweet Breeze and Jan and Dean. This show was more favorably reviewed. Sandy Polarkoff of the Beaver Times noted, “The Beach Boys took the crowd through all the phases of their career from way back then to now…By the end, after an encore with Jan and Dean of ‘Barbara Ann’ and ‘Fun, Fun, Fun,’ the Beach Boys and Jan and Dean proved they still have the knack and talent to please their audience.” The BBs played the Great Miami River Music Festival in Cincinnati on Aug 27 with Jan and Dean, Blue Oyster Cult, The Cars, Starcastle and The Dirt Band.

Aug 20 1979 the BBs played the Iowa State Fair, without Dennis, who was on a forced hiatus from the band to try and get him to straighten up. Jim Healey of the Des Moines Register praised the band for streamlining their act.  He commented, “By cutting back the group to a more manageable size, and by getting Johnston to sign on again, the Beach Boys have drawn tighter the yarn that binds them and their music.  The result was a truly exciting set here Monday, one that re-established the group as a prime force in modern rock ‘n’ roll.” The next night they played the Norfolk Scope.  On his return to California, Brian recorded a demo of “Night Blooming Jasmine,” which would end up as part of “Rio Grande” in 1988.

Aug 20 1981-While Carl was on a hiatus from the band, the BBs played the second of two nights at Red Rocks with Jim Photoglo.  Jim told me that “The Beach Boys and their crew treated my band and me very well.  They were very supportive.  I don't think The Beach Boys were at their best during this time.  Carl was not on the tour. Dennis was in pretty rough shape, and Brian wasn’t doing so well.  But the fans loved them.  From the moment the opening song began, the audience would be up and dancing.” The next night they played the Colorado State Fair and the on Aug 22 before a rowdy crowd at the Zoo Amphitheater in Oklahoma City, OK. Someone threw a jug of beer that hit Brian’s piano and spilled all over him and someone else hit Al with a soda bottle.  Shows followed in Johnson City, TN, Columbia, MD, Philadelphia and at Tanglewood in Lennox, MA. During this period-Carl was opening for the Doobie Brothers-he appeared with them in Bismarck, Sioux Falls and Rapid City on Aug 25-27.

Aug 20 1982-The BBs played the Missouri State Fair. All six BBs were present for some shows on this tour but both Brian and Dennis were becoming erratic performers. Dennis missed a number of shows and Brian sometimes refused to play or just took part in the encores (probably with some prodding). The BBs spent two nights at the San Destin Resort in Florida. The first show was partially filmed by NBC TV for a brief segment on the Today Show. Shows followed in Houston on Aug 24 and Indianapolis on Aug 26. Jill Warren of the Indianapolis Star commented that both the audience and band seemed bored, especially “a rotund” Brian (whom she misidentified as Dennis) “who was clearly more interested in keeping a fresh cigarette going than in entertaining the audience.” The band limped on to the Michigan State Fair on Aug 27, 1982 but neither Brian or Dennis showed.

Aug 20 1983-The BBs played the Illinois State Fair. Neither Brian (recovering with Landy) nor Dennis (in his final downward spiral) was present for this tour. Bob Mahlburg of the Journal Register reported, “The group opened with ‘California Girls’ and ‘I Can Hear Music’ and wound their way through nearly two dozen other vintage hits before returning for their killer standard encore set of ‘Good Vibrations,’ ‘Barbara Ann’ and ‘Fun, Fun, Fun.’  Other highlights included a nice remake of the Del Shannon hit ‘Runaway’ and ‘Surf City.’” The tour then moved on to Toronto, Ottawa, the West Virginia State Fair, Windsor Ontario, Saginaw, MI and Merrivile, Indiana.

84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Mark Moore Jan and Dean book on: August 15, 2021, 12:42:43 PM
Finished Mark’s new book on Jan Berry. It is pretty much the definitive book on the subject of Jan and Dean! Very detailed and full of interesting stuff-even if you are only a lukewarm Jan and Dean fan (like myself) it is still a fascinating story. I highly recommend it.
85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Song: \ on: August 13, 2021, 09:21:19 AM
By the way the BBs prerecorded a lot for that 86 special and I believe Brian’s vocals were fixed in post dubbing afterwards. I kind of like the song but the 86 special itself was pretty dreadful in my opinion. Really cheesy 80s-Joe Piscopo’s parts are really cringe inducing. Brian looks great but acts very stilted and ill at ease and the crowd looks like they were just there to be on TV rather than having any real love for the BBs
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: When was Brian using LSD? Was anybody else in the band? on: August 13, 2021, 09:16:40 AM
I think it’s established pretty well that the Wilsons were more open to experimenting with drugs. Mike’s admitted to doing pot before he got hooked on TM, while pretty much everyone says Bruce and Al were very straight and their only indulgence was alcohol
87  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche being asked to replace Bruce in 1969 on: July 18, 2021, 09:43:05 AM
The anecdotes about the sign are new to me-they are in the new ESQ-but Beard got three BBs to comment-suggesting it really did happen. But I have a review of the 1970 UK tour (reprinted in Badman’s book and I think mine as well) where the reviewer notes that the other BBs looked very peeved when Bruce hustled them offstage before doing his solo number
88  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche being asked to replace Bruce in 1969 on: July 16, 2021, 05:45:51 PM
I respect Bruce’s reasons-he was ambitious at that time and had aspirations beyond just being Brian’s replacement on the road. He wanted to get some recognition outside of Brian’s shadow and by writing I Write the Songs he achieved that. When he came back in 1978 he was more accepting of his role in the band and probably less filled with angst about his career choices
89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche being asked to replace Bruce in 1969 on: July 13, 2021, 01:17:15 PM
It’s quite clear that Bruce was uncomfortable in the counter culture era-he has stated that he never did drugs and did not enjoy the smile period-either opting not to take part in smiley smile or being asked not to.  He was not a fan of the Jack Rieley approach-a view shared by Fred Vail, whom I interviewed. Both guys loved sunflower and were not in favor of the Move to embrace relevance and the counter culture
90  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche being asked to replace Bruce in 1969 on: July 13, 2021, 08:51:28 AM
I think that feeling of being an employee in the BBs led to some behavior by Bruce that rubbed them the wrong way. He had ambitions to get his name out there a bit and get out of Brian’s shadow. He mentioned in the new ESQ that he had a major argument with Jack Rieley about credits on Surfs Up. Jack was eager to make it seem like Brian was more involved than he was so he was not going to have composer credits listed on the album cover and Bruce wanted recognition that Disney Girls was all him-indeed he even put up a sign at sessions telling the Wilsons to stay out of the studio. Then when they toured in 1970 he would make them leave the stage when he sang Tears in the morning because he wanted the crowd to see him as an individual talent 
91  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Joni Mitchell/The Beach Boys on: July 09, 2021, 11:47:09 AM
We discussed in another thread that Joni was dating James Taylor in 1970 when Dennis acted opposite him in Two Lane Blacktop-so she and Dennis got to know each other for sure
92  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New book: Hollywood Eden on: June 27, 2021, 06:19:29 PM
I finished it and it was a good read but no revelations for those of us who’ve read other books over the years. Seems like he got some good interviews from Jill Gibson and Lou Adler but the info on the BBs is outdated.
93  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My website updates on: June 22, 2021, 10:07:22 AM
I update as time permits-now have 1968 through the whole July tour. I found a few misdated pics of the 1968 Phoenix show on Getty
94  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My website updates on: June 21, 2021, 06:09:24 AM
I’m always on the lookout for precisely datable images to replace advertisements (though they are interesting too) . By the way I have found missing shows/corrections up to 1985 but as of now updates blog only goes to 1969
95  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My website updates on: June 20, 2021, 05:01:35 PM
By the way as of now updates only go to 1969
96  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / My website updates on: June 20, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
So, I have started work on 1968 up to July 5-if you are interested it is browsable at
If you have never looked before-you can look at gigs 1962-1968, with ads, photos, reviews, etc. There is also an updates/additions blog which is basically an addendum to my book-listing corrections and shows I’ve discovered (or others have discovered) since 2013.
97  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy Sequel on: June 18, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
Right…personally I think that is why the Brian Wilson songwriter documentary was one of the best because it was not official but still well done
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy Sequel on: June 18, 2021, 10:24:38 AM
Doubt there will be another Brian bio in his lifetime but a 60th anniversary documentary seems to be in works and they’ve floated the idea of a movie about Dennis a few times in recent years
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Renewed Hope For Lost 60's Videos? Lost Tonight Show Video From '68 Appears on: June 15, 2021, 08:08:26 PM
I think money talks and the BBs don’t have anywhere near the cache of the Beatles. If you are a staff photographer for the Salt lake newspapers and you took photos of some of those shows and the newspapers did not buy them, then you junked them or put them in a box. Years later you’d be willing to pour through the archives to find your old contact sheets from that Beatles show you were at but the BBs photos probably are not worth searching for because they are only worth a fraction of that
100  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Renewed Hope For Lost 60's Videos? Lost Tonight Show Video From '68 Appears on: June 15, 2021, 04:19:53 AM
Well as we’ve discussed I am amazed about a lot of things not turning up….as I’ve said there are multiple photos of every Beatles concert after 1963….but when I started looking I quickly realized how hard it is to find datable photos of the BBs. If you look at my website you see that I did find a lot but it was a lot of work! I’m amazed that with all the fans with brownie automatics I’ve yet to find one photo of the BBs onstage at the lagoon in Utah (they played there every year from 63 to 70 (except 67). Also surprised that even though the tv appearances are gone no stills have appeared from those shows. And I’m still amazed there is not a single photo of the proto-BBs with jardine. I’ve also searched high and low for a photo of Brian on the road on that February-March 1970 tour-where I assume he also wore a white suit
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