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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian reunites with HS classmate Chris Montez on: May 13, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
Chris Montez is not related to Olivia Harrison but they're both from Hawthorne high
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If there is a 1968 set, when do you guys and gals think we'll find out?? on: May 09, 2018, 03:56:10 AM
It's still early in the year to hear much about December release-but I won't be surprised if it's download only-  but you never know
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Concert attire on: May 08, 2018, 03:44:04 AM
Then they wore the white suits from late 67 to mid 1970. I always thought those were kind of squarer in a way then the stripes and really I don't think they needed another uniform by 1967. It was pretty unhip. Luckily the music was so cool
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Is Beatles Dated? on: April 21, 2018, 08:17:25 AM
Clearly they are still very popular almost fifty years later and still sell millions of albums to new generations-far from dated they've become timeless and only time will tell how many of our current artists are able to have such career longevity. Will anyone be listening to Taylor swift or even Kanye west in fifty years? Only the future knows
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley - RSD '18 on: April 21, 2018, 08:13:46 AM
I finished the second part and basically agree with the review you posted-I might have chosen different clips or included other short but revealing interviews-as you are aware guralnick mined a lot out of the short interview Elvis gave during the filming of on tour in 1972-in which he makes very clear his frustration during the movie years (it's on YouTube) but can't argue with what he did use. Clearly he chose not to dwell on the drugs too much-though they Are mentioned and avoided controversial topics like his broken friendship with red and the book published before his death that red had a hand in. The whole 1970 Nixon encounter is also skipped-but it's had enough coverage. I think he wisely kept it mostly about music
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley - \ on: April 16, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
Have not seen second part yet-surprised guralnick isn't in it
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley - \ on: April 16, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Yeah my criticism is that they seldom let a full song play and used very little footage-for example no footage from ed Sullivan just stills-after describing peace in the valley why did they not have a clip? And they completely glossed over loving you and jailhouse rock. Oddly longest clip was crawfish
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley - \ on: April 15, 2018, 12:13:02 PM
I haven't had a chance to watch it all yet but I saw the first twenty minutes and it was great-I'd seen most but not all the footage-which included rare home movies of red and the guys on the road in 54-56. Lots of audio from rare Elvis interviews as well as audio of Tom petty, Sam Philips, Scotty and others
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian in 1985 Studio Footage on: April 12, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Also should point out that the lp came out in 1985 but was recorded in 1984. The footage is from July 1984
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian in 1985 Studio Footage on: April 12, 2018, 03:37:03 PM
If anyone has old issues of esq I wrote a two part article about the bbs tv appearances. This was broadcast on a show called ear say in the U.K.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This Week in BB History April 2 to 12 on: April 03, 2018, 01:25:42 PM
I believe that is what the AFM says....maybe C Man can chime in on this
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This Week in BB History April 2 to 12 on: April 03, 2018, 06:20:23 AM
I also have some positive reviews! But I think it did cause him to realize how muoh he relied on the other bbs. I certainly wish I'd seen him solo though.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / This Week in BB History April 2 to 12 on: April 02, 2018, 03:53:35 PM
Apr 5, 1963-The BBs appeared at the opening of the LA Teenage Fair in Burbank.  The next day they played in the parking lot at the grand opening of Build 'N' Save in Garden Grove. On April 12, 1963 they were at the Rendezvous Ballroom with the Centurions.  April 2 1964-The BBs worked on the track for I Get Around.  It was probably at this session that Brian and Murry had a terrible fight resulting in Brian telling him he was fired. The next day the BBs appeared at Whittier High School for a benefit with Pat Boone and Mahalia Jackson. Apr 10 1964-The BBs worked on vocals for I Get Around and did work on Little Honda and Girls On The Beach

Early Apr 1965- Sweetening work was done on the live Chicago tapes from March 26 and 27 but the project was soon shelved. Apr 5 1965-The BBs appeared at Melody Land with The Munsters and the Pat & Lolly Vegas Trio. The next day members of the group were in the studio to work on California Girls.  On April 7 1965 the BBs headed to ABC Studios with Brian to tape Shindig.  It aired on April 21 and featured them performing Do You Wanna Dance, Fun, Fun, Fun, Long Tall Texan, Please Let Me Wonder, Help Me Rhonda and Their Hearts Were Full of Spring.  On April 9, 1965 the BBs began a tour in New Orleans with Bruce performing with them for the first time.  He also filled in at Memphis on April 10 and Atlanta on April 11.  Glen Campbell, however, was back for the concert in Clearwater, FL on April 12 1965. The Tampa Times noted, “They started off with ‘Little Old Lady From Pasadena’ and sang other hits such as ‘Surfin USA,’ ‘In My Room,’ ‘Dance, Dance, Dance,’ ‘Do You Wanna Dance’ and ended up with their latest, ‘Help Me Rhonda.’”

Apr 2 1966 the BBs played in Fort Worth on a tour with the Lovin’ Spoonful and Chad and Jeremy.  They were in Houston the next day and then in San Antonio on April 4 and Austin on April 5. They were in Memphis on April 6 to play for 6,300 fans, then headed to Jacksonville and St Petersburg, where they played on April 8. The tour ended in Miami and Sharon Trainor reported for the Miami News that “Mike Love was a riot.  Dennis sang two songs.  And Bruce Johnston, who has taken Brian Wilson’s place, sang one song.”  While the BBs were on tour Brian held a session on April 3 1966 to add vocals and strings to ‘Don’t Talk.’  On April 9 1966 he was at Gold Star to work on Good Vibrations.  Two days later all of the BBs added vocals to Wouldn’t It Be Nice and God Only Knows. 

April 4-6 1967 the BBs were all at Sound Recorders to work on Vegetables.  On April 7 they went to Columbia to work on the
“Sleep a Lot” section) April 10 they were back at Sound Recorders for the famous session for Vegetables attended by Paul McCartney.  Work was also done on Child Is Father to the Man (version 3) and Wonderful (version 3).  Brian and Paul enjoyed each other’s company and ended up making a late night visit to John and Michelle Philip’s house where Brian directed them all in a jam with, “Brian on glasses of water filled to various levels, Paul on cello, Michelle on drums and John on bugle.” The evening of course had a greater significance-because Paul played him She’s Leaving Home and described Sgt. Pepper.  Apr 11, 1967 a session was held at Western for Carl’s song Tones (Tune X) and then the group were at Sound Recorders for more work on Vegetables. Another session took place the next day for that song as well.  As the BBs were heading out on tour and wouldn’t be back till May 21 at the earliest this clearly meant that Smile was in serious trouble-as it could not possibly be completed without much more work.

April 2 1968-The BBs worked on Anna Lee the Healer at ID Sound.  That same day a story appeared in the papers that Brian has been given 60 days by the Bel Air town council to repaint his house-which was purple.  The next day the BBs probably worked on Be Still (the AFM says April 13 but this is impossible) and on April 4 1968-Brian was at ID Sound to work on Transcendental Meditation.  The BBs had flown to Nashville to prepare for their tour with Buffalo Springfield and the Strawberry Alarm Clock but the tour ran into trouble when Martin Luther King was killed that day.  The Nashville show was canceled and the BBs spent April 5 killing time at a Holiday Inn.  They managed to play a college date the next day but two other North Carolina shows were postponed. They played at Clemson University on April 7 and then were in Charleston, SC on April 8, a show fondly recalled by a number of people I’ve met. The tour headed to Florida with three shows on April 9.  They were at the University of Florida on April 10.  However Georgia remained tense (due to riots following King’s death) and both shows on April 11, 1968 were canceled.  While the BBs were sitting in hotels with Buffalo Springfield, Brian was in the studio working on Busy Doing Nothing.  The next day he worked on Diamond Head, while the BBs played in Jacksonville.

April 2 1969 the BBs taped an appearance on The Mike Douglas TV Show.  This is the performance where they performed “I Can Hear Music” and Dennis did “Never Learn Not To Love” for probably the only time ever.  That same day Brian was in the studio working on Breakaway. The BBs were on tour and played in Virginia Beach on April 3 1969.  The next day they played at a children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg, FL.  It was one of a number of benefits on this tour booked to aid Carl’s draft case.  Brian explained to Bernard Barry of Disc & Music Echo, “It’s a kind of unofficial way of the group paying off our debt to the American government for allowing Carl to become a conscientious objector.  A few concerts here and there is the alternative to him emptying some bed pans in some hospital to substitute for military service.”

On April 4 1969 the BBs were in Tampa with the Classics IV, Tommy Roe, Joe Hicks). Kay Donahue of the St. Petersburg Evening Independent proclaimed that the group, “just keep getting better. Harmony is the Beach Boys biggest selling point.  ‘Good Vibrations’ the symbol of their harmonic perfection sounded better than ever last night. The blended surf sound of ‘California Girls’ ‘Rhonda’ and ‘Do It Again’ was marvelous.  Songs from the early days and from 20/20…filled their all too short hour on stage.” They played in Miami, Daytona Beach and Orlando after that (The Orlando stop included an afternoon appearance at a juvenile detention center). The BBs were in Jacksonville on April 9 and before the 830 PM show they watched open heart surgery, visited two children’s hospitals and held a concert for disadvantaged kids. They played in Atlanta on April 10 and the reviewer noted that they were already playing Buffalo Springfield’s Rock and Roll Woman, which would be in the set on the June European tour. They were in Sikeston, MO on April 11 and on April 12, 1969 they were in Nashville with Tommy Roe, The Yellow Payges, the 1910 Fruitgum Company, The Serfs and Joe Hicks.

Apr 2 1971-The BBs played at Porterville College with The Flame.  The next day they worked on Don’t Go Near the Water, Old Movie (Early Version of 4th of July) and Long Promised Road.  On Apr 12 and 13 they returned to the Whiskey, this time without Brian but with David Marks sitting in. The BBs seem to have offered David a job as bassist but he turned down the offer.  Apr 2 1972 the BBs played in Tampa, at what turned out to be Bruce’s last full show till 1978. He was out of the group by the time they played in Iowa on April 14.  Apr 4 1972-Brian held a session to record a version of the Crazy Elephant tune “Gimme, Gimme Good Lovin.”   Apr 9 1972-the BBs worked on
 What I Feel (working title of Make It Good) and Cuddle Up. April 12 1972-The BBs worked on All This Is That (adding vocals to the Dec 4 1971 Track) and on Hold On Dear Brother.

Apr 3 1973 the BBs played in Loretto, PA and then headed to NY for shows at St. John’s and CW Post College.  The St John’s Torch singled out Blondie for special praise declaring, “His absence would certainly be missed, especially on such songs as ‘Sail on Sailor’ and ‘Leaving This Town.’…He can play anything lying around on the stage, as do most of the Beach Boys.  ‘Wild Honey’ is ‘his’ song in concerts.” The next day the BBs played in Harrisburg, PA with Rod Argent of the Zombies and then in Philadelphia on April 6 with Spooky Tooth and Argent. The BBs played in Norfolk, VA on April 7-with a very young Bruce Springsteen, promoting his first album and were at OSU in Columbus, OH on April 8, 1973 with The Doobie Brothers. They played at Chapel Hill on April 10 and an attendee wrote that, “Carl Wilson proved that he is still 100 percent Beach Boy with his tender singing on Caroline No and Darling not to mention his surf sound guitar on Surfin USA, Johnny B Goode and I Get Around.” The BBs were in Atlanta on the 11th with Bruce Springsteen and in Gainesville on April 12 1973.

Apr 4 1974-Brian attended Larry Coryell’s show at the Troubadour and leapt onstage to sing Be-Bop-a-Lula, eventually being ejected.  Imagine being there that night! April 9 1974 the BBs opened a tour with Jim Stafford at the University of Mississippi.  The next day they were in New Orleans-Van Dyke Parks visited backstage-as seen in Billy H’s home movies of the tour. They were in Atlanta and at Auburn on April 11 and played in Tampa on April 12, 1974.  April 12 1977-a session was held for Brian’s unreleased song “Lines.”  Apr 3 1978-Dennis held a session for “Common.” Seven days later he worked on “He’s a Bum.” Apr 4 1979 a session was held for “Little Girl.” April 3 1980-The BBs taped an appearance on the Fridays TV show-they sang Keepin’ the Summer Alive, Goin’ On and Good Vibrations with Brian but without Dennis.  It aired in June.

Apr 3 1981 Brian held a session for an unknown song at Gold Star.   April 5 1981 Carl began his first solo tour at Park West in Chicago. The Tribune noted that he played “to a two-thirds empty house and that “his stage presence…works fine as part of the Beach Boys but comes off as woefully lackluster for someone fronting a band.” He then played in Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto and Boston.  He was at My Father’s Place on Long Island NY on April 11 and Emerald City in Cherry Hill, NJ on April 12 1981. 

Carl was back with the band for shows at the Holiday Star Theater in Merrillville, IN on April 2 and 3 1982 but then left again to finish his second solo album and was absent from their dreadful appearances at the Chateau De Ville in Framingham, MA on April 4-6 1982. Foskett told Brad Elliot that he considered the April 5 show their all time worst.  "Bruce and I had the flu.  Michael had such severe congestion he really could not sing. I was dueling every one of his leads.  Jardine was so upset with the fact that he couldn't even see the first person in the row because the smoke was so thick. And Brian was off in his own world.  Dennis was there and doing a damn good job that night because no one else was." They probably weren’t much better in Atlantic City from April 8-11 1982-how could they be with both Brian and Dennis in bad shape and Carl absent?  Think I’ll stop as this post is far too long!!





14  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The John Lennon Peace, Love, and Appreciation Thread on: March 31, 2018, 06:01:33 PM
John hands down for me.  George wrote some nice tunes but I never thought much of him as a singer
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys and Redbone on: March 30, 2018, 08:41:43 AM
I compiled the gig info for bellagio and for our book-differences are that I can still update bellagio 😏 I believe I added more about opening acts to 1962-63 recently. Kowalski was with the vegas at that April 65 show
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Cruisin CD on: March 29, 2018, 07:37:02 AM
My favorite 80s bands were the jam, the clash, R.E.M. And the smiths
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Cruisin CD on: March 28, 2018, 11:22:17 AM
Right and we're only talking about bands that originated in the era of the bbs-plenty of non cheesy newer bands too
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Cruisin CD on: March 28, 2018, 11:02:40 AM
Let's not forget Neil young freedom with rocking in the free world
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Cruisin CD on: March 28, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
I don't agree that you had to be frivolous in the 1980s-plenty of decent music put out by others. While not all time classics Dylan's oh mercy, the Stones steel wheels and McCartney flowers in the dirt all show much more effort then the bbs did
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 26, 2018, 05:57:24 PM
June is out-check out bellagio to see how busy he was in the studio
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 24, 2018, 10:54:00 AM
Yeah I have that interview-I'll have to look for it
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 24, 2018, 09:46:31 AM
I have an interview with Marilyn from 1972 where she places it in 1966 but that doesn't mean much-she wasn't trying to be exact
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 24, 2018, 08:49:49 AM
Didn't look at the post before-yeah it could have been late fall
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 24, 2018, 08:24:13 AM
Actually Brian was at the July 17 1968 show in San Diego too and held sessions for we're together again in early September so we are apparently looking at August 1968
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Media Narrative of Brian's creative collapse Post-SMiLE on: March 24, 2018, 08:14:09 AM
Brian attended the concerts at melodyland in late September but didn't take the stage-so hospital thing was earlier
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