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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows vol 2? on: January 14, 2022, 08:42:33 PM
Since there wasn’t an extension release (not counting FF lol) what is now in the public domain?
Silly Walls, the birthday party performances of the Mr. Sandman/Chipmunk Song/Sonata Facile, as well as the May Syracuse and June Fillmore East shows from 1971.

If we're counting stuff that is NOT bootlegged:
. San Miguel (Early Version)
. Country and Western (basic Carl demo recorded in 1969, featuring many overdubbed acoustic guitars)
. Don't Go Near the Water (Piano Rehearsal/Demo)
. Take a Load Off Your Feet (Demo)
. Lookin' at Tomorrow (Demo)
. Dennis' Piano Interlude (WIBNTLA/Barbara Piano Demo)
. Remember That Feeling (Dennis/Gregg Jakobson Christmas song demoed in late 1969)
. Susie Cincinnati (Version One)
. Untitled #3
. Cool Cool Water (Two alternate versions; one an a cappella experiment, the other an alternate instrumental track)
. The Fred Vail Country Album
. Back Home (Version Four; recorded during the mid-August 1970 sessions. Basic track only.)
. New Hit Single (Early version of Barnyard Blues)
. Telephone Backgrounds (On a Clear Day)
. Two untitled Dennis Wilson tracks (one a studio demo, the other a backing track)
. Sea Cruise

Yeah, thinking about how all of that is gonna rot away in the vaults isn't very fun lol
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases on: August 10, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Yes, Sweetie does indeed have Brian, Mike and Al trading lead vocals. And as for Roller Skating Child, I recall reading an article stating that if the Here Comes the Night single did well, then the group was planning on re-recording Roller Skating Child in a similar fashion as their next single. That, plus the song lasting in live sets well into 1979, helps makes it a bit more clearer as to why they went ahead and started work on a remake.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases on: August 10, 2021, 11:09:18 AM
All material related to the proposed BROTHERS, COUSINS AND FRIENDS project:

1. Night Bloomin' Jasmine
   - Demo cut in February 1979. Brian mentioned to Les Chan that he wanted to include it on the next album.
2. Da Doo Ron Ron
   - Cut during the KTSA sessions. Bruce mentioned in a 1980 interview that he wanted to include it on the group's next album after KTSA.
3. Why Don't They Let Us Fall in Love
4. Bucks
   - Also known as "Fly." Features Mike on lead vocals. Apparently quite good.
5. Children of the Night
   - Mike song cut in May 1980. Most likely unfinished.
6. Song Within a Song
   - My Solution/Shortenin' Bread medley. Brian apparently recorded narration for the My Solution section, but this is unbooted.
7. Be My Baby
8. Greenback Dollar
   - Unfinished cover of the Kingston Trio hit. As Mike and Brian weren't that big into folk music, I'd be more inclined to believe that their rendition was more inspired by Dick Dale's interpretation.
9. Come Tomorrow
   - Unfinished cover of the Manfred Mann hit.
10. Roller Skating Child (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake recorded in the summer of 1980.
11. Baby, I'm a Changed Man (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake of the Country Love song. Also known as "Changed Man" and (most likely) "I'm a Man."
12. River Deep-Mountain High
13. Candlesticks
   - Unfinished Brian song recorded in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
14. Boys and Girls (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake of the KTSA song, recorded by Brian in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
15. Up Again
   - Unfinished Brian song recorded in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
16. Stevie
17. Sweetie
   - Recorded in March 1981. A demo from 1986 circulates on boots. Considered for inclusion in the group's infamous 1981 Long Beach performance.
18. I'm Sorry (I Ran All the Way Home)
   - Cover of the Impalas hit recorded in March 1981.
19. City Blues
   - Recorded as a demo during the "Cocaine Sessions" in 1980/81. These sessions more than likely did NOT take place in 1982 as has long been assumed.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Funky Pretty: the So Tough / Holland era sessions on: June 06, 2021, 10:40:13 AM
Bruce hid a master tape to prevent its inclusion on an album he didn’t even stick around for?!

This is exactly what Don Goldberg explained in his book, so yes. Not to mention Bruce was still around by April 1972.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Funky Pretty: the So Tough / Holland era sessions on: June 05, 2021, 02:46:33 PM
Telephone Backgrounds (On a Clear Day): This was recorded during the Surf's Up era. Is essentially just some noodling around on a moog, which may or may not be Carl. Could be released on a digital copyright dump at the end of the year.

Sail On, Sailor (Demo): Is not in possession of BRI.

Ten Years of Harmony: The "demo" was recorded in October 1974 and released as the b-side of a California Music session. There is an unfinished backing track from Spring 1972 though.

Burlesque: Written during the Surf's Up/CATP era, but a basic track for the song wouldn't be recorded until 1977 during the MIU Album sessions.

Funky Fever: Most likely not in possession of BRI.

Gimme Some Lovin'/Baby, I Need Your Lovin': Most likely not in possession of BRI. The remake of Gimme Some Lovin' was tracked during the late Adult/Child sessions in June 1977, and only exists as a backing track.

Quad Symphony: This doesn't exist. The pieces of music showcased by Desper during his lecture include sections of Ecology and Before, as well as the version of Barbara released in 1998. The piece commonly referred to as "Follow Me to the Sea" is actually an early take of Cocktails, recorded during the Bambu sessions. No idea how it came to be associated with the so-called "Quad Symphony."

Spark in the Dark: Not just a jam, but an entirely produced track, albeit without any vocals.

Slow Song: Recorded sometime between 1974-1975. Nothing but a bare-bones chord progression on an electric piano done by Dennis in the studio one day.

Out in the Country: The more-finished version was actually the first version cut, featuring Don Goldberg on lead vocals. Brian wanted to include it on CATP, but Bruce hid the master tape away to prevent its inclusion. The second version, featuring organ and vocals, was recorded in summer 1972 for the Holland album. Certainly more stripped-back than the first version, but that in no way means that it is a "skeletal" demo. I believe it was considered finished; it just wasn't included on the album.

River Song: Recording most likely began in late 1973-early 1974, long after the Holland album had been released.

Pattycake: 100% never recorded.

Dr. Tom: Seeing as Brother Studios was still a porn theatre in March 1973, this was more than likely recorded in March 1974, not 1973.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Visiting and House Shopping in Hawaii - July 1967 on: May 03, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
If Brian gave Time to Get Alone and Darlin' away to Redwood, nobody would know those songs today.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: March 29, 2021, 11:45:25 AM
Gotta say, it’s great to read a FF thread that doesn’t have most of the board and moderators ganging up on a single member and telling them their posts are awful
isn't that the guy you called a waste of flesh
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2020, 08:57:01 PM
This was such a great time for everyone in the band.  Shame if someone is blocking it.  My gut tells me someone is jealous of DW content.
You mean the same someone who was the biggest advocate for Dennis' content on the Made in California set? Roll Eyes
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2020, 02:35:53 PM
beach boys good
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 28, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
October-November is the most likely release date now, according to sources.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: June 18, 2020, 11:34:00 AM
BTW for everyone who's interested in this, here is Johnny Horton's original "All for the love of a girl":

Who sang backgrounds on Fred's recording? At first I thought it might've been the Honeys, but now I'm not so sure. I'd need to listen with better speakers than I have right now.
Believe it or not, the female backing vocalist on the finished tracks was none other than a young Linda Rondstadt!

Also, I've heard from a reputable source that as of a couple days ago, the boxset has unfortunately been given yet another delay. I'd been hoping it'd be coming out in August in celebration of Sunflower's 50th, but if I had to guess, an October-November release date for the holiday season seems more likely. I know Howie can only tell us so much, but I would love to know what's been causing so much difficulty in the production, promotion, and ultimate release of this set!
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys “Reunion” on Saturday? on: April 26, 2020, 03:01:34 PM
Elora on youtube has us covered:
Thanks for posting this.

I'm still processing this exchange in the comments section--

Just for my own sanity I’m going to choose to believe that was tongue-in-cheek. 

Check out his follow-up comments. He wasn't kidding!  Grin

(There must be a fairly small subset of people who know the BBs well enough to namecheck Bruce Johnston, yet consider John Stamos an original member.)

This guy was 100% tongue-in-cheek. Source: Am that guy.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes and Villains - Feb. 67 Fanmix on: September 15, 2019, 10:50:53 AM
WOW, thanks bunches for finding it!! What a unique mix, I LOVE the drums in the verses, packs such a punch. Thank you Niles and Seltaeb!
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Heroes and Villains - Feb. 67 Fanmix on: September 08, 2019, 09:16:59 AM
Hey everyone! This might be a longshot, but I've been trying to find a fanmix of Heroes and Villains posted on this board awhile back, but I've been running into some trouble. Here's what I can remember from it:

. It was labelled as a "Feb. 67" mix
. It started out with the Brian dialogue "remember one thing: there's no rules to this", which went into Mission Pak, then into the first verse, which used the Brian/Mike shared lead.
. It had a vinyl record popping SFX laid on top.
. The verses had this EQ which made the drums REALLY stand out.
. The ending went from Pickup to Third Verse into Bag of Tricks, which then faded out. Quite a unique ending!

Sorry in advance if this wasn't posted in the right channel! Thanks!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wrinkles from Country Love - High Quality Version on: August 05, 2019, 10:17:54 PM
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wrinkles from Country Love - High Quality Version on: August 05, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
That's my channel BTW, thanks to Dylan for finding it! I'm working on uploading the entire album onto YouTube as we speak!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: I Think About You Often (David Marks) on: May 03, 2019, 10:42:34 PM
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Career mishaps?? on: April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Too many to count

. Releasing Ten Little Indians as a single instead of Chug-a-Lug
. Brian becoming acquaintances with Loren Daro
. Brian taping over the master tapes of The Little Girl I Once Knew with Row Row Row Your Boat
. Pulling out of the Monterey Pop Festival
. Not releasing new material for eight months after the release of Good Vibrations
. Brian spending too much time on the Heroes and Villains single and letting SMiLE die as a result
. Releasing Then I Kissed Her as a single in April 1967
. Not releasing Vega-Tables as a single
. Releasing Gettin' Hungry as a single
. Releasing Smiley Smile as the follow-up to Pet Sounds
. Not releasing Lei'd in Hawaii
. Releasing Bluebirds Over the Mountain as a single
. Not releasing Can't Wait Too Long as a single in 1968
. Brian not hiring a lawyer before signing over Sea of Tunes to Murry
. Releasing Add Some Music to Your Day as the lead debut single of their Reprise career
. Releasing Cool Cool Water as a single, with It's About Time as the b-side
. Releasing Slip on Through as a single, with This Whole World as the b-side
. Not including Fourth of July and (Wouldn't it Be Nice) To Live Again on the Surf's Up album
. Including Take a Load Off Your Feet on the Surf's Up album
. Not realizing Mt. Vernon and Fairway (A Fairy Tale) to its full potential
. Releasing Child of Winter as a single two days before Christmas
. Not releasing Good Timin' in early 1975
. Releasing 15 Big Ones as the follow-up to Holland
. Releasing Susie Cincinnati as the b-side to three singles, before including it AGAIN on 15 Big Ones
. Releasing It's OK, a sure summer hit, in late August 1976
. Releasing Honkin' Down the Highway as the lead single off of Love You
. Not releasing Adult/Child
. Only including one track from Adult/Child on the MIU Album
. Including Hey Little Tomboy on the MIU Album
. Releasing MIU Album as the follow-up to Love You
. Rejecting Constant Companion for LA (Light Album)
. Including Here Comes the Night on LA (Light Album)
. Not releasing the Curt Boettcher mix of Shortenin' Bread as a single
. Everything about the year 1981
. Releasing It's OK AGAIN as the b-side to It's Gettin' Late in 1985
. Allowing the 1995 reunion album to die
. Little-to-no marketing for the recent copyright extension releases
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The 'Caribou' Album (1973-1975) Compilation Mix on: March 22, 2019, 04:06:36 PM
Mark and Alan confirmed that they DON'T have "Earthquake Time", "Our Life, Our Love, Our Land", "Don't Let Me Go", "You're Riding High on the Music", and "Just an Imitation" in the vaults. They are either missing, destroyed, or they weren't ever recorded in the first place. Stephen Kalinich pretty much confirmed "You're Riding High on the Music" wasn't ever recorded. The only things Mark and Alan have in the vaults include "River Song" (the multi-tracks are missing though), "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", "Good Timin'", "Honeycomb", "Lucy Jones", "California Feelin'", "Barnyard Blues", and "Brian's Tune". "Clangin'" is from 1976 BTW, there's of course "Ding Dang" which was done a couple times in 1973 and 1974, as well as "Clang", which was rehearsed in 1976 (same session where Brian performed "I'm Bugged at My Ol' Man"), featuring the "mow mama yama holy hallelujah" lyrics. "Clang" is in the vaults, having been recently found by Mark and Alan a couple years ago.

* Also, that early 1975 session for "Pacific Ocean Blues" was for an incomplete, unused version that has never circulated on boots before. The one you have here, being the backing track for the version used on the album, wasn't started until Fall 1975, and wasn't completed until February of 1977. A lot of overdubs for "Holy Man" weren't added until late 1975-1976 as well.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson Songs Discovered on BMI's Website on: March 11, 2019, 12:00:54 PM
"Number One" is also known as "Visions", and was released by Rachel and the Revolvers in 1962
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sweet Insanity Album Art Remake on: March 02, 2019, 12:13:10 PM
Beautiful, fantastic job! Looks very foofoo Razz
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So there is a 2006 version of \ on: February 21, 2019, 08:55:25 AM
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - 2018/2019 Tour Thread - Postcards Storytellers Tour on: January 20, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
He played “Little Pad” and “Don’t Fight the Sea”!
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: ANNOUNCING! SMiLE 1967 Mix by soniclovenoize (authentic reconstruction) on: January 06, 2019, 04:56:34 PM
Who was present on the "psyche sounds"?
BW, VDP, David Anderle, Michael Vosse, Jules Siegel, Danny Hutton, Arnie Geller and Bob.
Is that Bob Gordon of “Bob Gordon’s Real Trip”?
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brothers, Cousins, and Friends - possibility on: December 27, 2018, 09:26:32 PM
Bruce was asked about the followup to KTSA, and he mentioned he wanted to push for "Da Doo Ron Ron" to appear on the album. The problem with trying to construct an "accurate" version of the proposed album is that the majority of the recordings that were probably in serious consideration have never leaked out. This includes cuts such as "Bucks", "I'm a Man", "I Ran (All the Way Home)", the studio version of "Sweetie", "Candlesticks", "Boys and Girls", and "Children of the Night". Material recorded for the potential album that has been released, officially or not, includes "Be My Baby", "Why Don't They Let Us Fall in Love", "River Deep, Mountain High", and "Stevie".
Also, "Night Bloomin' Jasmine" is from late 1979, not from the Usher sessions. Speaking of the Usher sessions, those took place from 86-87, so they shouldn't be qualifying for an 80-83 collection.
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