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876  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB members imitating songwriting/production styles of each other + other artists on: June 02, 2015, 10:21:37 AM
I think the arrangement of All I Wanna Do sounded like Strawberry Fields Forever by The Beatles. I'm not sure, but All I Wanna Do was probably produced in a team of Brian, Mike, and Carl. All I Wanna Do is actually my favorite song of all time. The lyrics are beautiful, the melody is incredibly catchy, the arrangement is filled with psychedelic organs and synthesizers, and Mr. Positivity's vocals are top notch. Probably Mike's best vocal, next to Big Sur.
877  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favorite BB stories? on: June 01, 2015, 07:24:53 PM
Mike OD'ing on meditation and the car chase that followed... I mean, WTF?
Is this  a real story?!? I've never heard it!
878  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How much has Stamos contributed musically to the group over the years? on: June 01, 2015, 07:23:21 PM
Stamos' drumming is fine in that clip of catch a wave. It's started too slow before he comes in, so I doubt there was much he could do.

Catch a Wave is a semi-deep cut. What are the deepest cuts that Stamos has been the main drummer on?

I think Catch A Wave was a song that was never a hit, but everyone knows. It was actually the first time I heard the BBs, I was listening to Oldies radio, and the DJ played Surfin USA' going straight into Catch A Wave. Hearing those two songs on the radio changed my life forever. I've been a fan ever since. Anyway about Stamos, I think he's a HUGE fan, who also happens to play drums, guitar, percussion, and sings (All averagely) and happens to have the right connections. He seems like a good guy, so I can't really say anything bad about him. 
879  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Health. on: June 01, 2015, 10:46:09 AM
Other than his constant battle with depression and auditory hallucinations, the only thing I'm worried about  is his back problems, which Carl also had in the later days.
880  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The songs that saved the album.. on: June 01, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
The main thing that saves many of the later day albums with the so-so songwriting, are the vocals.

You're right. For example, Kokomo isn't the world's greatest song, however, Carl and Bruce's vocals are awesome!
881  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys DREAMS on: May 31, 2015, 05:28:36 PM
Last night I had a dream that I was talking with Chuck Britz, Carl Wilson, and Glen Campbell about the Today! sessions… Interesting dream.
882  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recording Without Session Musicians on: May 31, 2015, 05:26:00 PM
Speaking of the single version of Be True To Your School, I wonder if the multis still exist.  It would be awesome to hear the track in stereo, or the backing track by itself.

Definitely! I've always wanted to hear that!
883  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favorite BB stories? on: May 31, 2015, 05:24:42 PM
Hmm… I have a few…
1 Brian chopping Elvis' arm.
2 Dennis bringing the gold miners a BB gold record.
3 Alan at the airport, trying to flush a toilet, and when someone finally helped him, he says "Im not too good with computers"

Not quite...

Jardine is often a little lost. On the plane from Tampa to New York, he couldn't figure out how to flush the toilet, so he had to ask the stewardess. "Oh, that one!" he said. "I'm not very good at computers, either."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-beach-boys-last-wave-20120621




Ahh… Well, I got the jist of the story…
884  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: May 31, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Wow, that's really interesting. It almost reminds me of the trippy outro about 30 seconds after A Day In The Life by The Beatles.
885  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favorite BB stories? on: May 31, 2015, 02:35:12 PM
Hmm… I have a few…
1 Brian chopping Elvis' arm.
2 Dennis bringing the gold miners a BB gold record.
3 Alan at the airport, trying to flush a toilet, and when someone finally helped him, he says "Im not too good with computers"
886  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The songs that saved the album.. on: May 31, 2015, 02:27:54 PM
Shortenin Bread was one of the worst Beach Boys tracks ever.  It should never have been released.  Same for She's Got Rhtym from MIU.
I like She's Got Rhythm.
It's no classic, but it's one of the better Rock songs on MIU, in my opinion. Brian's falsetto is similar when Mike called him "Micky Mouse with a sore throughout…" in the '64 skit, but the song is pretty cool. I like Al's arrangement.
887  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recording Without Session Musicians on: May 31, 2015, 02:25:20 PM
It is well known that Brian Wilson and the BBs have been using session musicians since 1964.

The previous year, actually.

That's true, he used Steve Douglas and Hal Blaine, among others, since the Surfer Girl album…
But I'm talking about songs where session musicians played everything on the tracks, not just additional instrumentation (Pom Pom Play Girl was the first I believe…)

Actually, "PPPG" was just the Boys, instrumentally and vocally. "WDFFIL", on the other hand, was the WC all the way (instrumentally-speaking). But so was "BTTYS" (single version), aside from a guitar overdub by Carl.

WHOOPS. You're right. PPPG is Carl's first lead vocal and WDFFIL was the first time Brian used the WC on an album. BTTYS (Single) he had the WC play on, but it wasn't issued on any studio albums. So, if I'm not mistaken, the BBs play on the Little Deuce Coupe version of BTTYS, right?
888  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recording Without Session Musicians on: May 31, 2015, 01:27:55 PM
It is well known that Brian Wilson and the BBs have been using session musicians since 1964.

The previous year, actually.

That's true, he used Steve Douglas and Hal Blaine, among others, since the Surfer Girl album…
But I'm talking about songs where session musicians played everything on the tracks, not just additional instrumentation (Pom Pom Play Girl was the first I believe…)
889  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: May 31, 2015, 01:26:01 PM
Be True To Your School is SO overrated.
Deirdre, My Diane, All I Wanna Do and Disney Girls are just as good as anything on Pet Sounds.
Spirit Of America is better than Endless Summer.
Holland is boring to listen to.
Endless Harmony is a great song.
LADY LYNDA is the best song of LA
890  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The songs that saved the album.. on: May 31, 2015, 12:35:06 PM
MIU: Come Go With Me, My Diane (+maybe Hey Little Tomboy)

The rest of that album is quite sh*t really.

I'm not a big fan of Hey Little Tomboy. Personally, my take on it, is that the narrator is trying to change this tomboy into a woman, despite her wishes. Maybe I'm analyzing too much…
I really love Come And Go With Me; it fits in nicely on albums like Sounds Of Summer.
But My Diane has to be one of my all-time favorite Dennis vocal. There is just so much emotion!
891  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's confidence (or lack thereof) as a lyricist on: May 31, 2015, 10:44:38 AM
Brian wrote the lyrics to This Whole World!
That song has very spiritual lyrics, that were very fitting to the hippie culture of 1970.
Not to mention Brian wrote the lyrics to…
Surfer Girl, Little Girl I Once Knew, and I'll Bet He's Nice which are all classics!
892  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How much has Stamos contributed musically to the group over the years? on: May 31, 2015, 10:41:18 AM
By every objective musicianship-based account I’ve heard, Stamos is an amateur musician. This isn’t a pejorative term in this case. He’s literally an amateur in that, while he has appeared on “professional” recordings and tours, he takes on playing drums or guitar as a hobby.

I wish I could find it, but there was an interview with David Marks from the very early 2000’s, some time not too long after he departed Mike’s band in 1999, and he was asked about Stamos, and he said something along the lines that Stamos would be a better musician if he took time to practice. Similar to my comment above, I took his comments as being very direct and literal. He was kind of indicating Stamos may well have the aptitude and ability to be a good musician, but because he was/is an actor by profession, he never went to great lengths to hone his musicianship.

Every time I’ve heard/seen him, he sounds like just that. He can do passable guitar and drums; he clearly is not bad for a “hobbyist” musician. But his drumming especially is sloppy. It’s the sort of thing that might sound good when he just sits on a drum kit by himself and noodles for a few moments. But it drags down an actual professional band. He’s relatively innocuous if he just plays some inaudible bongos on “Kokomo” or something.

All of this is in reference to his actual musicianship. His *stage presence* is a whole other ball of wax of course. 

Stamos is a true fan of the band, of that I’m sure. Judging by the C50 Rolling Stone profile, Stamos liked Brian’s album-ending suite more than even Mike did. I wish Stamos would have or could have done more over the years to be the world’s biggest fan and spearhead something from that point of view (convince Mike to bring up releasing archival material or something) rather than hamboning it up on stage. I also give him a tiny bit of props for at least alluding in a couple of interviews over the years to the fact that his 2000 TV miniseries was a mistake.


I agree. He definitely can drags down the band, when he's playing an important role. Check out this clip of the group playing Catch A Wave. Carl and Al sound great… But Stamos' drumming is slow, and poor all around, and it effects the whole performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBiiChCVl6k
893  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Creating the ultimate Beach Boys mix-tape (playlist) on: May 30, 2015, 10:35:56 PM
I know your playlist is very Brian-oriented,
But I would include these non-Brian BBs classics…
Disney Girls, California Saga: California, and Somewhere Near Japan.
894  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The songs that saved the album.. on: May 30, 2015, 10:33:55 PM
I think Goin' On and Endless Harmony save Keepin' The Summer Alive.

OK, most people disagree, but I LOVE Summer In Paradise (UK) and Slow Summer Dancin, and I think they saved the SIP album. And that album was HARD to save.
895  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recording Without Session Musicians on: May 30, 2015, 10:32:17 PM
Brian didn't play all the instruments on Love You.

OK, he didn't play ALL of the instruments, but he did play MOST.
Carl did play some guitars and Denny played drums. But most of the songs featured Brian playing synthesizers, organs, and (minimalistic) drums.
896  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Recording Without Session Musicians on: May 30, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
It is well known that Brian Wilson and the BBs have been using session musicians since 1964. In 1964 and 1965, about half of the material was played by the Wrecking Crew, and half was played by the BBs themselves (Usually Carl- Guitar, Alan- Guitar or Bass, Denny- Drums, Brian-Keys or Bass, Bruce- Keys or Bass). By 1966, for the Pet Sounds album, the "crew" played almost all of the tracks, however Carl would often play guitar with them. But by the Wild Honey Era, the BBs became more of a band again. Although by 1976, when the group was working on 15 Big Ones, Brian brought the Wrecking Crew back to record with the BBs.

When was the last time the BBs recorded a song with little to no, session musician involvement? A record where they play the track. Brian played all the instruments on Love You, and MIU was heavy on session musicians. Could it have been the LA/Keepin The Summer Alive era?
897  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Make it Big + other BB songs that many people think are by other bands on: May 28, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
I had NO IDEA Surfin Safari was a Beach Boys song!!! JK  Grin
898  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How much has Stamos contributed musically to the group over the years? on: May 28, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
From what I can tell, he's more of a fan than an actual band member.
He sang lead of the 1992 version of "Forever". It's not as good as Dennis singing lead, but it's not bad.
He drums along with the BB main drummer usually when he shows up at concerts.
He also will play guitar and sing, but I doubt his guitar is audible, and for old time's sake, he'll play percussion on Kokomo.
899  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Does anyone think Denny + Mike could have overcome creative/personal issues? on: May 26, 2015, 08:29:32 PM
I think they could've.
Even though Mike has been known to speak of ill of Dennis, and even Brian, the Beach Boys truly are a family, and I believe, had he lived, Denny would've been on the C50 tour, but would probably not tour with Mike+Bruce. I think he'd be doing solo albums, or maybe singing with Brian's band. He sure did love Brian.
900  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Song you are addicted to.. Right now.. on: May 24, 2015, 10:17:21 PM
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