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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike & Bruce on BBC Breakfast on: June 13, 2018, 07:39:34 AM
Says for me that it's only available in the UK... Anything interesting said?
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: June 09, 2018, 05:23:25 PM
Disney Girls, Kokomo, Heroes And Villains, Warmth of The Sun, and Good Vibrations totally blew me away. The others were okay. God Only Knows is the only one I'd say that I truly dislike. I'd like to make an album combining the best of this project and Bruce's 90's project together into one album. Then it would be a perfect BBs Symphonic Album
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: June 05, 2018, 05:24:04 PM
...Is Bruce wearing the shirt Mike is selling?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: May 22, 2018, 05:53:03 AM
I don't mind Stamos playing with the group, but it's so odd that he's listed as if he was an actual band member.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Latest Issue of Guitar Player... on: May 17, 2018, 07:37:17 AM
Great interview. Scott is a very cool and humble guy, and I've been lucky enough to speak with him before. He really saved The Beach Boys touring group.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your 5 Favorite Songs Per Decade? on: April 12, 2018, 03:48:06 PM
60's
God Only Knows
Warmth Of The Sun
Surfin USA
Good Vibrations
Kiss Me, Baby
Album: Pet Sounds

70's
All I Wanna Do
Deirdre
Lady Lynda
Til I Die
All This Is That
Album: Sunflower

80's
Getcha Back
Somewhere Near Japan
Endless Harmony
Where I Belong
It's Gettin Late
Album: BB85

90's
Still Surfin
Strange Things Happen
Imagination
She Says That She Needs Me
Summer In Paradise

2000s
Southern California
Summer's Gone
Love Is Here To Stay
Ram Raj
Too Cruel
Album: Tie between TLOS and Unleash The Love (Disc One. Don't berate me... Once you get past the autotune, the material is great.)
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian in 1985 Studio Footage on: April 12, 2018, 06:53:36 AM
I love BB85 too, and I'd love to see more footage like this!
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 09, 2018, 07:09:15 AM
Is Bruce on the 20/20 version of Our Prayer?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: March 29, 2018, 07:33:10 AM
Roger Christian wrote some great non-car lyrics. Check out "A Beginning From An End"
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Cruisin CD on: March 27, 2018, 02:37:49 PM
Maybe they realized that after the success of Kokomo faded away, so would the band's new found relevance.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New bass player with Mike & Bruce on: March 22, 2018, 06:30:15 AM
Back to Mike's new bass player- has he been given any lead vocals yet?
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New bass player with Mike & Bruce on: March 22, 2018, 06:16:53 AM
The amount of autotune on some of these Valli pre-recorded vocals is almost on the same level as Unleash The Love disc two!
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 19, 2018, 03:47:19 PM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which BB group/solo albums have \ on: March 11, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
Lucky Old Sun, Looking Back With Love, Gershwin Album, Unleash The Love, and MIU all took some time to grow on me. These were albums I hated at first listen, but grew to enjoy, all to certain extents.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 10, 2018, 04:09:14 PM
Hell yeah, I hope I'm looking that good at 78!
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: March 08, 2018, 07:13:19 AM
I prefer the versions of Surfin and Surfin Safari on Jan & Dean's "J&D Take Linda Surfin" album over than the ones The Beach Boys released.

I like having Dean's leads with Jan's bass voice and the BBs backing vocals/track
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 06, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
Perhaps Jeff will transition to mid-range, and have Randell take over the falsetto. That would be fine by me. Hell, that would be great with me! I love Jeff's mid-range and Randell's falsetto. Great singers, those guys.

I'm curious as to who's doing the heavy lifting rhythm guitar vs the "icing on the cake" Al-esque guitar parts. I'm assuming Foskett is playing as the primary rhythm guitarist, with Christian being the "icing on the cake" , but I very well could be wrong, because Christian played solid rhythm guitar with Mike and Bruce for many years.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 06, 2018, 07:22:01 PM
I sure as hell did not expect this thread to turn out to be all this...

Glad we have our own opinions. I really respect most of you all on here, and we feel like a little family.  Smiley


However, next time I wanna praise J&D, maybe I'll head over to their message board  LOL LOL LOL
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 05, 2018, 07:06:32 PM
I love that exchange between Brian and Jan, Mark. The first time I read it in your book, I could practically hear their voices! What's the status of the Jan Berry bio?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 05, 2018, 04:25:32 PM
Also, someone pointed out that Jeff has been having falsetto problems, and hasn't been singing in the register as much. I would not mind at all for those parts to go back to Randell, and have Jeff sing in his mid-range voice
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 05, 2018, 03:38:48 PM
Yeah, I'd have no problem with Stamos if his drumming was kept to maybe a song or two, and if he didn't parade around the stage and steal the show, or at least attempt to. Can you imagine if Randell Kirsch or Jeff Foskett started meandering around the stage, or if John Cowsill stood up every five minutes while playing drums??? (about the standing thing, Stamos loves to stand, presumably to be seen, when he plays the drums. He's been doing it since '86 when the BBs first were on his show. It drives me crazy)

Look, If I were a celebrity I would absolutely do what he does! Who wouldn't? Get up on stage and rock with your favorite band? Get to share the stage with a legendary rock star? It would be incredible!!! However, I do totally agree that he could be doing more to promote the band (documentary, archival release, etc...) than just having a SIP poster in Full House and doing all the DIA17 shtick he did.

I can relate to John in the sense that he's a huge BBs fan that loves to perform. However, I think some of the things he does on stage is a little tasteless.


On another note, something that always bothers me is when people criticize Mike or John for not mentioning Dennis when they play Forever. I love when they do, however. But, can you imagine how annoying it would get if Mike talked about Brian after every song? You'd be hearing "Here's a song written by Brian Wilson" before almost every song they play. Given Mike's general personal beefs with Dennis, I'd say having him on the video almost every night is pretty cool of him. It pays respect to Dennis, even though he doesn't go out of his way to acknowledge it, like he does for Carl, or even George Harrison!
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 05, 2018, 03:28:45 PM
Hey Jude, I'd agree with that. One artist's achievement doesn't take away from anothers. I was just comparing Brian and Jan's work at the time.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 05, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
I agree with the notion that The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean aren't equal, in terms of their overall output and impact. They didn't revolutionize the world with stuff like Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. My opinion is that they, together, created the California Sound. Or maybe I'll expand a little. Brian created the California Sound and Jan refined it. Production wise, Surf City was better than anything Brian had done to this point. Production value. All of Brian's songs from this era sound like vocals over pretty thin backing tracks. But Surf City's backing track sounded huge!! Two drum sets, guitars, bass, piano, all locked in playing as tight as The Wrecking Crew ever did. They're are multiple voices singing the lead vocal, including BW, slightly off-mic. It just has a huge sound! And after Surf City is cut, you see Brian's backing tracks begin to evolve. I'd say you can definitely hear Jan's influence on the backing track of Fun, Fun, Fun. This was probably Brian's cleanest "Jan-est" production to date. Was he conscious of this? Who knows. But you've got the doubled guitars, two drum sets (via overdubs. Pretty sure Denny first, Hal overdubbing), double tracked vocals, and an overall tight sound.

The Beach Boys are the alltime greatest band in my opinion. Hands now. No one has ever, or will ever, equal them. But I do think The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean played an equal role in developing what we know as the California SOUND. Not lyrical content (surf, cars, girls, etc) but SOUND. Jan had been cutting records with Wrecking Crew, falsetto leads, and thick harmonies for years. Not saying that Brian copied Jan. But I think Brian took Four Freshman, Chuck Berry, Phil Spector, AND JAN BERRY/JAN&DEAN, when developing his own sound. Some more than others obviously. The Four Freshman would be the most impact influence I think.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 05, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
As for Stamos being plugged in or not, it's hard to tell. In the video of the concert in Washington from 2017 (with no Bruce), when they're playing Little Honda, Stamos is clearly playing the wrong chords. Although, there's a clip of him playing Forever, where his guitar is clearly audible. I suppose he really plays when he knows the songs, and turns down the volume when he doesn't know the song.

And I totally agree about the drums. He's a fine drummer. Bar bar band ability. Definitely not legendary rock band ability, like Cowsill, where he has solid time, energy, and really just brings it every night.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 03, 2018, 02:26:03 PM
Mark, thank you sharing that backing track!! What a great production. Jan was the best!!
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