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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paul McCartney's RAM - the most 'beach boys' Beatle album? on: April 07, 2022, 04:20:41 AM
I can't attest to the accuracy of this quote about 'Dear Boy's but this is interesting -

https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/song/dear-boy/


From mixing engineering Eirik Wangberg:

How did you achieve the sort of “4 dimensional” Paul and Linda angelical harmonies?

It was quite a challenge for me to do these things. But, when it works it’s really lots of fun – especially if the arranger (Paul) knows his job. As Paul really knew what he was doing (laughs), the harmonies and voice tracks (there were many ones) did not step on each other or kill each other in the mix. As you may already know, Paul is here inspired by the Beach Boys vocal arrangements, whom I also have recorded. Elton John calls these harmonies the best he’s ever heard!

Engineer Eirik Wangberg, interviewed by Claudio Dirani, 2005
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Paul McCartney's RAM - the most 'beach boys' Beatle album? on: April 04, 2022, 02:14:53 PM
I was listening to RAM recently and struck by the Wilson influence in this one. A couple of thoughts I jotted down -

-Ram On
--Sounds like it could have been a smiley smile outtake. You get some bass vocals very reminiscent of Mike.  Some really cool harmonies in general behind this sparse production effort.

-Dear Boy
--Starts off extremely Beatles-y...but about 25 seconds in we get some beach boys style harmonies with a 'child is the father of the man' style counterpoint

Uncle Albert
--Brian Wilson style chords and bass all over this one. Some smile esque 'vocal noises', humor, transitions

Smile Away
--Sounds like a prototype of 15 Big Ones era

Monkberry moon delight
-- Mashing triad piano, cool backing vocals. Reminds me of night blooming jasmine and ding dang a bit

3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New single on Spotify- Agent Cooper on: July 01, 2021, 07:18:47 AM
Thanks man. I like the logic presets...I think I used ‘Liverpool bass’ on that one. Exs24 has some nice basses, I usually prefer mono. Sometimes use retro synth too.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New single on Spotify- Agent Cooper on: July 01, 2021, 05:58:50 AM
That's beyond impressive - the lyrics are just perfect and the production fits them flawlessly. I can slightly see why you'd want to rerecord it, but if you do don't change much at all - it has a great character already. Glad to see you're on Apple Music!

What is your recording setup? Do you do all the instrumentals? Logic, Pro Tools?

Logic x, midi keyboard, Scarlett audio interface. Yep I make the instrumentals using logic instruments. Don’t use any samples. It’s a simple setup but I like it.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New single on Spotify- Agent Cooper on: July 01, 2021, 05:28:59 AM
AWESOME!

The production is fantastic - love the bass lines and how they punch in the mix and your vocals fit this style perfectly. It's like MGMT meets the Doors or something.

And now I'm listening to your other stuff - 'Glass' is jaw-dropping - like seriously one of the best new songs I've heard in a while. Is that a cover or did you write that?

Everyone here should check this out: https://darnomite.bandcamp.com/track/glass

Thank you so much for the kind words.

All of my songs are originals. Glass is perhaps the most meaningful to me, one day I would love to rerecord it with better vocals and production. I am really glad to hear you liked it Smiley
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / New single on Spotify- Agent Cooper on: July 01, 2021, 04:57:02 AM
Hi all, my new song Agent Cooper was just approved for release on Spotify. Here is a link:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6XaHQRgYs21DDwCaWAs9eF?si=vDe92hlRTZyM9MQN9jbJ4A&dl_branch=1

Here is a link to my other music, some of which I have posted here before:

https://darnomite.bandcamp.com/

Just wanted to share with this community since my music is very beach boys inspired Smiley
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy Sequel on: June 22, 2021, 07:51:25 AM
While this would never happen for many good reasons, I would love to see Alan Ruck cast as an older Brian Wilson

https://images.app.goo.gl/RV1DtxEoCr6M3HVo6
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: The Definitive Smiley Smile Message Board's Song Ranking - Ranking Process on: December 24, 2018, 06:04:33 AM
1. Heroes and Villains
2. God Only Knows
3. Don't Talk
4. Wouldn't It Be Nice
5. You Still Believe In Me
6. All I Wanna Do
7. California Girls
8. Time To Get Alone
9. Please Let Me Wonder
10. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you have any regrets? on: February 19, 2018, 02:09:13 PM
I do
I do
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New ep - Darnomite & The Magical Flying Zen Electric Oboe on: August 27, 2017, 10:01:08 PM
Check out a review of the ep on Divide and Conquer!

http://www.divideandconquermusic.com/indie-music-album-reviews/darnomite-darnomite-the-magical-flying-zen-electric-oboe
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New ep - Darnomite & The Magical Flying Zen Electric Oboe on: July 07, 2017, 07:22:44 AM
Nice vibe there. Really enjoyed that.

Thanks a lot! Big beach boys influence obviously  Smokin
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / New ep - Darnomite & The Magical Flying Zen Electric Oboe on: July 04, 2017, 06:02:03 PM
Hey guys wanted to share my new EP that is heavily influenced by brian's music. Mixed with a bit of electronic pop.

Hope you enjoy.

https://darnomite.bandcamp.com/album/darnomite-the-magical-flying-zen-electric-oboe
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sensitive Music for Sensitive People- Official Prediction/Suggestion Thread on: October 20, 2016, 09:48:12 PM
i personally think SMFSP will be a different album from the rock and roll concept....i have a feeling we're getting an album of new originals. Or maybe i am deluding myself into believing that because i want it to be true
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian album on: October 13, 2016, 09:31:27 AM
www.rollingstone.com/music/features/brian-wilson-talks-mental-illness-drugs-and-beach-boys-w443076

"Yes. I'm just as creative as I was 50 years ago but I don't work as fast. I work a little slower. I'm going to make an album December. I'm going to call it – so far, this is just a working title – Sensitive Music for Sensitive People. I think that's a good title and a good starting point."
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds and Race on: September 28, 2016, 07:59:28 PM
The author forgot to mention Pet Sounds disappointed on the charts while a guy named Jimi Hendrix was rocketing to stardom and dismissing the beach boys sound.

It's a legitimate point but a horrible example. Early beatles/beach boys stuff? Sure. But an underappreciated album that was more chamber pop than rock and roll anyway? Dont see in any way how it limited black rock and rollers at the time.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Great \ on: September 25, 2016, 08:37:35 PM
this is and always will be my favorite review of a beach boys album -

http://www.smileysmile.net/uncanny/media/users/djm/scan0008-13SMALL.jpg

17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys' Legacy In 200 Years on: September 23, 2016, 08:59:13 PM
Okay I know this is a very odd topic and most will probably find it dumb and impossible to answer but I want to hear your guys opinions.

How do you guys think the Beach Boys will be regarded  in 200 years? The reason I say 200 is because that's almost how long it's been since Ludwig Van Beethoven died, and today most view him as one of the most important composers ever in terms of musical influence and accomplishments, and yes I know The beach Boys are one of the biggest and most influential bands ever but i'm not talking about now, in the future. Beethoven's music is often regarded as "timeless". Will the Beach Boys music possibly be regarded as "timeless"? In what sense? Will only their more famous works survive the test of time, or will some of their underrated masterpieces gain in favor over the years? Will people look back and say that they were game changers? Even more so than we do today?

Will their contributions to music be remembered and revered? Will Brian's revolutionary musical structures,arrangements,and studio techniques hold up all of the music in the future? Will their music be studied more (because I know it already is)? Will each individual Beach Boys' legacy live on? Or just the Wilsons?

Again kind of a question with no answer, i just wanna hear your guys thoughts on this topic.



Don't hurt me i'm new here...

IMO, there will be 2 important scholarly discussions about the music of the Beach Boys:

The first is about the 'California sound', which the guys invented and continues to impact culture to this day. I believe this group will be discussed with the Beatles as being a significant influence, especially in America. Their impact is not only on pop music but the idealization of southern california in general in pop culture.

The second is about Brian Wilson, the composer. I do think he will be looked on with great reverence and remembered as one of the greatest musical minds in history. As the popularity of the band declines, music scholars will continue to study his unique chord progressions and incredible harmonies for years to come. I think his name will be discussed among Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Gershwin, Lennon, and McCartney as some of the greatest minds in western music.

or maybe the singularity will have happened and we're all in some sort of hive consciousness in which every possible opinion of the beach boys will be known and felt by all.
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18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 12 Most Underrated Beach Boys Songs - According to Mike Love on: September 22, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
Regarding “Oh, Darlin’” the alternate version that circulates isn’t really a “demo” per se; it’s the same backing track and partial backing vocals heard on the released version. It just has Brian singing most of Carl’s lead (with Carl still harmonizing in spots), and Mike’s lead missing on the bridge.

Back to the released song/recording, I think it’s a pretty strong and slightly unique composition, hampered by plodding and clunky production. If they had stripped it back more, and removed the horns or whatever those are, it would be better. I’ve always loved the bridge on the song with the weirdly dissonant backing vocals. Very rare for them to do something that off-kilter in that later era.


I actually like the horns...overall i dont mind the production nearly as much as most others. And I think they did a nice job on the vocals as well...especially mike's bridge.

I also feel obliged to post this...one of my favorite bb live recordings of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLqvRpN_bSE&t=3m35s
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mono -vs- (new) Stereo on: September 21, 2016, 07:47:15 PM
I prefer to listen to pet sounds in stereo. I know this is blasphemy for many but the instruments breathe better in the stereo mixes so much more. especially accordions, tack piano, woodwinds

Earlier stuff I do mono...the stereo mixes are not done well enough to achieve such an effect. it usually sounds weird and hollow to me. e.g., I get around.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 12 Most Underrated Beach Boys Songs - According to Mike Love on: September 21, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
I like "Oh Darling!" very much. The released version unfortunately is ruined by terrible production+ arrangement and mediocre and dull singing. Lyrics also are quite shabby.


The early demo version with Brian singing shows though, that the song had potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02cP3UHUXU




EDIT:

I'm surprised btw that Mike doesn't mention that "Darlin'" was featured on the Big Bang Theory. Normally he always brings up this kind of stuff.

Yes I enjoy the demo too. Any idea what year that was recorded?

21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 12 Most Underrated Beach Boys Songs - According to Mike Love on: September 21, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
I think the number one choice for me is Oh Darlin' on Keeping The Summer Alive

This is a beautifully written Brian track from start to end....verse and chorus have the classic brian 4-1 5-1 movements and there are 2 bridges! they're both fantastic. 

And on top of that, a wonderful lead vocal from Carl. and mike sings a nice lead on the bridge

To me this is an all-time great beach boys song, and i believe if the exact same track was on an album like Sunflower it would be regarded as so.

Before TWGMTR i might have even called this the last great beach boys song?Huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUKhZMt-ns
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Write Lyrics for Any Beach Boys Instrumental on: August 31, 2016, 02:17:54 PM
here goes...lyrics to 'i said a prayer'


The night was long
And I ached for you
I said a prayer

I searched the dark
For signs you loved me too
I said a prayer

I prayed for love
Prayed you'd find it here
I miss you so

I said a prayer
Prayed you'd feel this love
I need you so

A sleepless night
Singing praise for you
I said a prayer

A glimpse of sun
Dawn has come, for us
I miss you so

I said a prayer
Said a prayer for you
Oooooh

I said a prayer
Said a prayer for you
Oooooh

(repeat and fade)
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Links to brian wilson piano demos on: August 25, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
Good Vibrations....not a demo per say but accomplishes the same effect -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZQSUTCafD0
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Links to brian wilson piano demos on: August 13, 2016, 01:07:25 AM
I feel so fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7CZWdlyMhU

25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love You Appreciation thread on: August 11, 2016, 01:24:29 PM
I think Patti Smith said it best

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