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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you have any regrets? on: Yesterday at 07:53:31 PM
This sounds silly, but I regret not buying TWGMTR sooner. 

The summer of 2012 was when I really got into The Beach Boys after attended a C50 show in mid June.  I recall seeing the album at Target for $7.99, but I thought, "how good could a new BB album really be?"  I also wasn't overly impressed with the two songs they played in concert (the title track and Isn't It Time). 

But, as I starting digging into the catalog, I decided I was going to use some Best Buy reward bucks to get the album in late August.  I only wished I'd bought it sooner as that album could've been the soundtrack to summer 2012. 

Very minor regret.

Not silly at all, and every time I listen to the album I immediately think of that magical show at the Woodlands.

When I did get the album, I listened to it every night for two weeks straight.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you have any regrets? on: Yesterday at 12:13:49 PM
This sounds silly, but I regret not buying TWGMTR sooner. 

The summer of 2012 was when I really got into The Beach Boys after attended a C50 show in mid June.  I recall seeing the album at Target for $7.99, but I thought, "how good could a new BB album really be?"  I also wasn't overly impressed with the two songs they played in concert (the title track and Isn't It Time). 

But, as I starting digging into the catalog, I decided I was going to use some Best Buy reward bucks to get the album in late August.  I only wished I'd bought it sooner as that album could've been the soundtrack to summer 2012. 

Very minor regret.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: Yesterday at 11:41:15 AM
Well, the theory above about Dave would be different from other members in that Dave had some sort of stake in the business when he was in the band in 1962-1963. To be clear, I don't think he would have any wiggle room to assert any claims to BRI right now as far as I can tell.

His lack of songwriting credits would make it a tough sell. 
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: Yesterday at 11:36:33 AM
Hey Jude, do you think David could technically argue for his right for a share in BRI because (correct me if I'm wrong) Murry Wilson eliminated his share (I think)?

In short, naw, I don't think so.

I think just logistically/realistically, it just isn't something that would work. I doubt Dave can or wants to pay lawyers to pursue such a thing, and BRI has many, many lawyers always at the ready.




Do you think Mike would help David out to that end?

I think if you let David Marks have a share, then you potentially open up Pandora's Box for Blondie and Ricky, and of course, Bruce.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: Yesterday at 11:34:15 AM
Al definitely talked about it in a print interview (Rolling Stone?) during some of the sessions that eventually became NPP--I think maybe as far back as when it was still a Beck collaboration. And then I think he referenced it again in a podcast shortly before NPP came out, when he was saying he wasn't sure what was on the album.

It definitely sounds like he could have sung it. I wish he at least partly had. I think his voice suits it.

Yeah it wouldíve suited him really well. Thanks for the info!

@KDS, yeah, any more guest artists and it would feel much less like a BW album. But as a bonus track or something, wouldíve been great to hear.

Probably better for another topic, but I think NPP could've been a great 11-12 song album proper.   Leave the rest for bonus tracks, including a Del Ray Last Song if it actually exists. 

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: Yesterday at 11:26:18 AM
Life Suite or R&R record? I'd love either one. Smiley

Same, I honestly donít care either way. I think every BW solo record has a bit of charm and each one has at least a few gems/moments that stand out. And thatís all Iíd want whether it be from a life suite, rock n roll album, or even just some piano demos. Or if Brian wants to chillax and not visit the studio again thatís cool too.

Yes, of course. But I'd be a bit unhappy if his last released song were "The Last Song". It's so sad.

Wouldn't his last released song be "Run James Run"?

If that's his final song, while not great, at least it's better than The Last Song. 

Was that Del Rey version ever recorded? I would love to hear how different that version sounds if it exists.

Does anyone know about the genesis of Run James Run? I was under the impression it was more of an Al Jardine song for some reason. RJR has grown on me since I first heard it. I feel like Brianís music would benefit so much from mono mixing instead of stereo though - this song being a great example of that.

I thought that Lana Del Rey never came into the studio to record her version due to a scheduling conflict.  I'd be interested to hear her version only as a curiosity.  I'm not really a fan of her music, and I think NPP was already pretty crowded.  
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Vocal edits, punch-ins + copy/paste vocals in BB songs on: Yesterday at 11:08:17 AM




Side question: are there any studio vocal leads on BB songs have no (or virtually no) edits/punch-ins? Where it's essentially a live studio vocal?

I'd think there are a few on the Surfin Sufari album.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: Yesterday at 11:06:34 AM
Life Suite or R&R record? I'd love either one. Smiley

Same, I honestly donít care either way. I think every BW solo record has a bit of charm and each one has at least a few gems/moments that stand out. And thatís all Iíd want whether it be from a life suite, rock n roll album, or even just some piano demos. Or if Brian wants to chillax and not visit the studio again thatís cool too.

Yes, of course. But I'd be a bit unhappy if his last released song were "The Last Song". It's so sad.

Wouldn't his last released song be "Run James Run"?

If that's his final song, while not great, at least it's better than The Last Song. 
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: Yesterday at 11:02:19 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 

Straight up direct question, and feel free anyone to insert this too:  Dead Horse

If the content of the shows is drawing people to them, why not just go out on tour as original members of this or any band as something like "...original members of (insert band name)" and not get tangled up in calling yourselves"The Beach Boys" or "The Rolling Stones" or whatever other name applies?

And it's not just the Beach Boys who have influenced my opinions of other classic bands who I love but whose squabbles and drama with which 2nd line member gets to book using the band name have kind of dirtied the rep a bit. Just my opinion, but there is something noble if that's the right word to a band calling it quits after it is unable to play with certain key members actually involved in the shows. And if those members left want to tour, they go out as their own name. There is something cheap to me about using a name to boost ticket sales if a majority of the members fans know aren't there. Again, not just the BB's.

Some artists do that, or amend the name of the band.  Queen + Adam Lambert, The Doors of the 21st Century, and Joey Molland's Badfinger come to mind.  

But, then you also have bands who made major personnel changes while still relevant.  Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Chicago, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc etc.

You could seriously write a tome about the debates of who / what makes a certain band who they are?  Are Daltrey and Townshend enough to qualify as The Who?   Should Dreja and McCarty tour as The Yardbirds?  

So, to answer your question, I think it would make more sense for fractured bands to amend their names, and I include the current Beach Boys in that.   I think it's a great concert, but more often than not, I still refer to it as "Mike and Bruce" because while it's a great live version of a great band, it's not truly The Beach Boys.   But, to some, The Beach Boys ceased to exist on Dec 28, 1983.  

But, there are also exceptions for bands like Deep Purple who have never really had a constant lineup.  In fact, their current lineup has been in place for 15 years, so they've been together longer than their original and "classic" lineups combined.  

As for big time legacy bands will all originals.   The big one is Aerosmith.  Though they don't tour as often as they once did.  There's also Poison.  Granted, not on the same level as Aerosmith, but they are pretty much the "Beatles of (So Called) Hair Metal."  

So, yeah, there really is no answer because it's different for every band.  

But the one thing I'll say is that I, personally, think it's more acceptable for bands like The Beach Boys to tour with greatly fractured lineups than to release new music.  
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: Yesterday at 10:30:00 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 22, 2018, 12:49:48 PM
Is Brian finally getting to that real rock and roll record he's been talking about since working with Jeff Beck?

Gettin Hungry,

At this point, I think I'd rather get an album with a complete "Life Suite."  Even though Brian and his band can tear through some early BBs classics in concert, I think the MOR/AC stuff seems to be a little more in his wheelhouse when it comes to the studio. 

Me too. The full suite would be great to hear. It just seemed like Waddy has the guitar chops and session experience to be a better fit than working with Beck. At any rate, curious to hear what -- if anything -- comes from these sessions Blondie teased.


Yeah, me too.   Interesting indeed.  Yeah, I like some Jeff Beck but I don't think his style works with Brian Wilson. 
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #15: Past Masters Vol. 2 on: February 22, 2018, 11:53:20 AM
All Together Now

Hey Jude
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 22, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
I donít think his voice is suited to rock anymore. His enunciation especially on anything wordy or uptempo just st doesnít sound right to me. (Of course if he filed out those parts to Darian, Matt, Al, et al, that could work really well. But I know many here donít like that anyway.) Heís better suited as a singer to ballads / easy listening, Iíd say.

Captain,

I agree 100%, and his vocals on the slower songs on TWGMTR / NPP were quite good.   I'm OK with AC Brian. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 22, 2018, 08:34:26 AM
Is Brian finally getting to that real rock and roll record he's been talking about since working with Jeff Beck?

Gettin Hungry,

At this point, I think I'd rather get an album with a complete "Life Suite."  Even though Brian and his band can tear through some early BBs classics in concert, I think the MOR/AC stuff seems to be a little more in his wheelhouse when it comes to the studio. 
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 22, 2018, 07:45:04 AM
1. Mikeís vocals are really awful and nasally. Why was this song ever a hit?

The combination of Chuck Berry's songwriting and the Beach Boys "oohs' and "ahhs". It's the Surfin' USA effect. That's what people wanted to hear!

And I disagree with KDS, it rocks. Mike's nasal vocal is the only drawback for me, but it works just well enough. I love the "rock, roll, rockin' and roll" bit.

4

JK I think thatís the first time Iíve seen you not give a song 5 stars Shocked

Yeah, it seems extra harsh coming from JK  LOL


I must say, BE, your definition of "rocks" must be a little different than mine.   

If we were discussing the mix that appeared on MiC, or a live version....maybe.   
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you have any regrets? on: February 22, 2018, 07:26:36 AM
I haven't been to any of Al's shows so far myself. It looks like he sticks around after shows to sell stuff and sign autographs. I would imagine it's the typical sort of thing where he doesn't jump right off stage and immediately start signing, but it probably isn't a huge wait. It appears it isn't a totally informal thing where people just mill around after the show and you tap Al on the shoulder for a photo; it looks like he sits at a table and does signings.

The Yardbirds did something similar when I saw them at the same venue in Annapolis in 2007, and I think they came out like 15 minutes afterward. 

If it's something like that I'll stick around.   Not like when I milled around outside until 1am to meet Glenn Hughes last year. 
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 22, 2018, 07:05:31 AM
Sometimes I wonder if this was Brian Wilson showing his sense of humor by producing a version of Rock and Roll Music that doesn't rock. 

Great song, poor version.   I'll even take the Yahoo Serious version over this one. 
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you have any regrets? on: February 22, 2018, 06:22:10 AM
My biggest regret would have to be deciding not to bring my vinyl copy of Smile to get it signed by Brian and Al when I saw them June 2016. And as luck would have it, now they arenít doing personal signings anymore. To get my most favorite album ever signed by the man who made it is a chance that comes up once or twice in a lifetime, and I blew it. And why didnít I want to bring my vinyl? Because I didnít want to hold it during the concert. Thatís it. What a lazy slob I can be sometimes!  Roll Eyes Of course the thought of putting it back in the car before the show never struck my mind. I still mull over this while trying to fall asleep at night.

At least in the case of Al, it appears he'd doing signings after his solo gigs on his current tour. From what I've heard, he sticks around after the show and will sign anything (including apparently actual vegetables!).

I've also heard from folks who buy the VIP pre-show dealies on Brian's tour that mileage still varies on whether you can bring something else in to have Brian, Al, etc. sign. I think they usually state that you can only get whatever item signed that they provide, but I think some people try to bring other stuff in and are sometimes successful.

This may be a shot in the dark, but have you heard if Al comes out right after the shows, or if fans have to linger awhile?

I ask because I'm seeing him in Annapolis next month, and would love to meet him, but we also have a babysitter that night, so I don't want to make it a super late night. 
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 21, 2018, 12:17:51 PM
Everyoneís got different tastes. Itís one of the happiest most rollicking songs Brian has done in his solo career, IMO (probably besides Good Kind Of Love). To me it sounds completely organic and lively...no doubt in part to the positive writing experience Musgraves had with Brian for this song.

I guess so.  I like some happy songs, and I like country music a little more with each passing year.   

For a happy sounding Brian song, I much prefer Don't Worry, which didn't make the "proper" album cut.

Thatís one song I wouldíve loved to have been in the studio for during recording. And also wouldíve loved to have heard the genesis of this song. I didnít like it much first time hearing it, Woodstock (Niko) once explained to me the dynamics of the song and it opened my eyes to how cool it actually is.

Speaking of "genesis," Don't Worry reminds me a lot of 1980s Phil Collins. 

It sounds like early 70s Frankie Valli/Four Seasons to me.

I could see that a little, but I think Joe Thomas's work on the song makes it sounds like an ultra slick PC radio hit. 
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 10:56:18 AM
I think the best thing posters can do is accept all the things that this band has brought us - the good, the great, the bad, the ugly. Accept that Mike contributed a whole hell of a lot to the band, totally. Accept that Brian wasnít a perfect individual at times. Accept that Mike has a penchant for sticking his foot in his mouth, but also accept he had/has a bit to gripe about.

The second best thing for posters is the willingness to change your mind about your viewpoint if the evidence yields enough to warrant such a change. Iíve been pissed at Mike for the wrong reasons before, Iíve glorified certain parts of Brianís music that he didnít even write. Be willing to accept when youíre wrong or when youíre right. This goes for anyone on both sides of the spectrum.

Logical and fair. 


21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 10:46:51 AM
Why is David Marks no longer considered a member, while Brian and Al are?

I'm not sure I understand the question as David Mark has played onstage with The Beach Boys as recently as 2015, but not Brian or Al
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 10:40:41 AM
If you're trying to insinuate that I hijacked the thread, and not the string of 5 immediately preceding your original post that is ridiculous.

But isn't the fact that a brand new publication, the comic printed in 2018, went out of its way to list "Wilson/Asher"... which contradicts the "new" revised credits? That is a topic worthy of discussion, which then led to a topic of the whole issue with the credits having been revised in the 1st place, which naturally pisses some people off because Mike's name on the credits is still (and will always be) a source of debate/contention to most fans who are knowledgeable about the history.

But it's not like there's zero relation to the original topic.  Conversations (either in real life, or on message boards) will often lend themselves to other topics that are related.

If the original comic had not been a panel with WIBN, but instead had been a panel with a topic about Al Jardine's preferred brand of t-shirts, I somehow doubt it would have led his line of messages into the discussion topic of Mike Love and his crediting overreaching.

But the comic went out of its way to show a now-outdated WIBN credit. So why is it "hijacking" for that comic to lend itself naturally to a discussion about the credits for that song?  We are nerds. We know the history of that song, and the revised credit, and that is only natural to become a topic of discussion as a result.

It's not rocket science why it went there; Mike himself, via so, so many of his actions over the years, has done stuff that many fans find in poor taste, crass (even Al Jardine publicly stated such - imagine what he must say/think privately!) ... essentially Mike has spread his own tentacles over so much of the story of the band, that when those things he has done - which many think are bad, egocentric, narcissistic decisions - are innumerable, it's only natural that perhaps a larger percentage of topics (when compared to other members) might eventually go down that road of discussing Mike critically, even if the original topic wasn't specifically about that, but tangentially might naturally lead there.

In a nutshell, basically, you can't act the way Mike has for so many years without many things indirectly leading back to a discussion of him/his actions. It's not gonna happen every time of course. Mike has nobody to thank but himself for that unique distinction. I'm also certain that if Mike had long ago completely ceased with stoking the flames of smack-talking other members while comically trying to build himself up - people would be somewhat a little less inclined to naturally have topics veer in this direction.

I never said it was zero relation, I always maintained it as "little relation".  A writing credit whose revision most casual fans don't know about on a drawing of a 50 year old record in a frame of a comic strip that is ending.  That is "little relation".

If you step outside of this bubble for a minute, here are the most likely reasons for that cover:
1- Guy googled the WIBN single cover and drew it.
2- This was the record he had as a kid, with Wilson/Asher on it, or it's one that he picked up at a used record store as an adult.
46- He is expressing a subversive hatred of Mike by recognising that the credits were amended and going against the court decision in his drawing

What you're trying to defend isn't some sort of academic discussion about why the record appeared as it did, you're trying to defend your friends' immediate replies of "Mike is a litigous POS" or "He's gonna sue the comic strip".  You're trying to characterise that after the fact as some sort of Superfan Discourse that logically resulted from the OP.  What is telling is that in your own words here you use the reasoning of Mike being crass/in poor taste with his public behavior as grounds for these replies.  You show here, that the direction is merely "the guy sucks so obviously people will freely stick it to him whenever possible".  



The flipside is that people like myself will also talk about the things I actually like and appreciate about Mike's contributions to the band. I think things only get toxic when people somehow cannot bring themselves to say/acknowledge Mike's good contributions. I cannot understand how disliking his behavior can translate to a frustrated fan saying that good lyrics/vocals are somehow not good. That refusal, I can agree, is toxic and nonsensical IMHO.

Agreed 100% on your last point there.  

I was accused of being a troll by a poster who goes by the name of Letsgoaway on Brian Wilson's board because I pointed out Mike's contributions to the band, in particular during the early days.   For that, I get accused of being a troll and "drinking the cool aid."  

But, like the posted I just mentioned, wants to dismiss everything Mike did because of that bias, to the point where you can't even compliment his lyrics or the way he sang on California Saga.  Bias is one thing, but that's just plain silly.  
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 09:25:25 AM
Good point. Specifically that is why I hope Mike wouldíve pressed charges. Currently, kids are being arrested left and right for making stupid threats in the wake of what just happened in Florida. Shouldnít be any different for celebrities.

Right, and in the light of what happened in Florida, I don't think it would be a bad thing for social media to be monitored for that kind of thing. 

True that. The CDC monitors social media for outbreaks (they found that they could get more accurate predictions of sickness by pinpointing swarms of posts in specific areas about people not feeling well). I would hope the FBI would do something similar - within the confines of the law, but whatever you post on the internet publicly I think has every right to be analyzed by those whose job it is to stop crime.

I agree 110%. 
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 09:00:36 AM
You see KDS, there is a lot of stuff that happens which you're unaware of, or which happened prior to you joining these forums, so before making assumptions or throwing charges on the table, you could always ask about the bigger picture first before assuming things are what you think they are when they're not. Or read my signature line for an example of simply refusing to accept what actually happened in favor of grinding an axe.

I've read your signature lines.   The one quoting Wirestone about how anyone who criticized NPP for the non Beach Boys guests can go f**k themselves.   That's cute.  Very cute that, since I criticized the songs with Sebu and Kacey Musgraves, that a poster Wirestone can tell me in a blanket post to go f*** myself.   And a mod, agrees with the point so much that he makes it one of his signatures, therefore signing off on the notion that I can go f*** myself. 

I've made some snide comments, maybe even one or two unwarranted, on PSF.  But, I have never said anything like that. 

25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 08:45:41 AM
KDS - I explained what I wrote to you twice, and here you are again.  Grin

You explained how you saw it. 

That's fine if that helps you sleep at night.   But, I don't see how that "endgame" stuff was not directed at me.  You asked me the same question multiple times on direct responses to my comments, so it really doesn't matter if you specifically put KDS or not. 

And by the way, guitarfool (just so you know for a fact that I'm 100% addressing you), you posted an argument you were in from 2011.   Where we are in 2018, and you're arguing with me just to argue, trying to childishly say that you didn't ask me a question when the evidence shows otherwise. 

And you really can't see how this board has a "toxic" reputation?  Because, I'll tell you, guitarfool2002, the SSMB has a toxic reputation not because of you.  There are a lot good posters here.  NateRuvin, RubberSoul13, GoogaMogla (apologies if I'm butchering the name), KidPresentable, etc etc. 

I've gotten into disagreements with rab, Rangerover, HeyJude, and Billy before, but we can still have civil and friendly discussions. 

But not you, guitarfool2002.  You have to keep on pushing and pushing. 

That is why this board has the reputation is has. 



You don't seem to get it, KDS. That quote from 2011 was an alias of the same account that "Forrest Gump" came from. I posted it to show that this bullshit with this guy has been happening since 2011. Same account, same M.O. If he has or had an issue with me, he could have addressed it to me publicly or privately under his real name and not hide twice behind fake aliases in order to take shots at me.

If you twist my words into something they were not, as your friend and former member filledeplage has been doing for years to suit whatever argument is raging, I will call it out.



If that's the way you see it, more power to you. 

Did you ever question why said person has had a problem with you for seven years? 
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