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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in Glastonbury comeback talks after not so Good Vibrations since 2012 on: Yesterday at 08:49:15 AM
For a band that essentially toured for 36 years straight, the amount of live stuff released is absolutely pathetic.

Especially when compared to other legacy acts whose official live output either dwarfs or is close to dwarfing their studio catalog. 
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles SUPER Survivor WINNER: STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER on: Yesterday at 08:44:44 AM
I can never really choose my favorite between Day in the Life and Strawberry Fields, but I'm glad one of them came out on the toppermost. 

Same here. I go back and forth quite a bit on which is my favorite too.

Im the same with The Beach Boys with Warmth of the Sun and Surfs Up.   

Great to play.  Thanks for hosting. 
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles SUPER Survivor WINNER: STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER on: Yesterday at 07:20:50 AM
I can never really choose my favorite between Day in the Life and Strawberry Fields, but I'm glad one of them came out on the toppermost. 
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in Glastonbury comeback talks after not so Good Vibrations since 2012 on: May 18, 2018, 05:41:58 AM
Maybe this has been mentioned in the big paragraphs somewhere...but I'd really much rather have a big commemorative release that truly honors the good that came from the C50 experience. A REAL live album...all the tunes that made the cut at any point...good, bad, and ugly...without the Joe Thomas gloss. Wrap it up in a nice big box, include some facsimilie setlists and ticket stubs...kinda like the "McCartney Archive Collection" that Sir Paul is doing...very, very...very slowly.

I'd love to see that too.   The C50 live material that we got was pretty bad.   But, I doubt very much that any further reunion live stuff would see the light of day while there's still a touring version of The Beach Boys on the road. 
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: God Only Knows on American Idol on: May 18, 2018, 05:40:02 AM
Yesterday one of the finalists sang God Only Knows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esewCYA424k

I'm guessing a lot of people watched it. Katy Perry (one of the judges) said "the number 1 song that I wish I could have written is God Only Knows".

She may not have written God Only Knows, but she did co wrote California Gurls

 LOL

Alongside a huge laundry list of writers.

And with songs like that, the term songwriters is used very loosely. 
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Were Al's Commercial Instincts Under Utilized? on: May 16, 2018, 07:19:19 AM
Regarding Al and the "Postcards" album, he definitely *does* have a stockpile of songs that went unused on that album. I would imagine he dropped in the cover tracks to make the album more appealing in trying to net some sort of record deal/distribution, and also because he simply seemed more enamored with those tracks.

But I'd wager he has dozens of tracks that could have made it onto that album. He has even mentioned several in interviews in the last 20 years "Crumple Car" was one, and that one eventually leaked. There was one he worked on with Neil Young that he named as well (for the life of me I can't remember the title at the moment).

There are a number of titles that have been floating around for years. "Islands in the Sun", "Good Good Feelings", "Jennifer Clover", etc.

There are also probably a number of "grey area" songs like "Don't Fight the Sea" that may have been potential BB tracks but subsequently we were worked on solo.

Plus it seems that Al, perhaps even more so than Brian Wilson at times, has the "keep tinkering" thing happening, where he's not happy enough with a mix to release it.
Part of me wonders if he got that trait from Brian having been that way during SMiLE, if Al's really that much of a perfectionist just on his own, or if perhaps Al just felt his released work had to measure up to the high standards set by the band in their great years.

Al definitely has had a penchant for "over tinkering" with stuff over the years. I think he has even admitted to this in a few interviews, at least in terms of taking so long to get something out. Not sure where it comes from; I think it's just one of his idiosyncrasies. Certainly, there was a period of time through the early 80s where, as part of the group, he and the band had no problem putting music out at a pretty quick clip (an album per year usually).

Al easily has enough material for a probably pretty good additional solo album; he probably needs an outside producer to get behind such a project. Not even so much for the technical or even musical side of things, but just a sort of A&R type person to pick and choose tracks and tell Al when something is "finished." 
Another album from Al would be most welcome!

I'd even take a live recording of one of his storyteller shows. 
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: God Only Knows on American Idol on: May 15, 2018, 01:18:40 PM
Yesterday one of the finalists sang God Only Knows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esewCYA424k

I'm guessing a lot of people watched it. Katy Perry (one of the judges) said "the number 1 song that I wish I could have written is God Only Knows".

She may not have written God Only Knows, but she did co wrote California Gurls

 LOL
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles SUPER Survivor Thread!!!! on: May 15, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
The one benefit of losing A Day in the Life is that it makes my vote for the top song a no brainer

Strawberry Fields Forever
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Queen on: May 15, 2018, 06:33:59 AM
Bumped an old Queen thread

Today's a big day for Queen fans as the trailer for the long awaited biopic Bohemian Rhapsody is being released. 

I know biopics can be a mixed bag, but considering Queen were the first band I ever really got into, I'm really looking forward to this one. 
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Were Al's Commercial Instincts Under Utilized? on: May 15, 2018, 05:45:01 AM
I think Al could've been underused a tad as a vocalist.

But, I think the fact that he needed to pad his lone solo album with new versions of Beach Boys songs shows that he didn't quite have a stock pile of songs like Dennis did.   
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in Glastonbury comeback talks after not so Good Vibrations since 2012 on: May 14, 2018, 07:00:14 AM
So I just have ask, how much will be enough? The guys are all heading closer to 80. Do we want to see the guys together, 80 years old, still singing "Be True to Your School", "Surfer Girl", and "When I Grow Up to Be a Man"? Okay, let's assume a reunion does happen again. At some point it will have to end, will we be satisfied that they did it one last time, or will we still be complaining that it didn't go on long enough? Will we someday have the guys onstage together at 90, singing the old songs - but with a band of 20 something's doing the heavy lifting? I think we're pretty lucky they were together as long as they were. Was there any year in the 80's or 90's when they weren't on tour somewhere? I know i'm being sourpuss, but I think at some point reality is going to set in.

Who knows when we'll be at the point where there are no more BB's out there anymore.   Obviously, sooner rather than later.   The one thing that's for sure is that none of these guys have anything left to prove, and really haven't for awhile. 

So, while we're still getting shows and new records from the surviving parties, we might as well enjoy it, because it won't last forever (it's kinda sad). 
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: May 14, 2018, 06:45:40 AM
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I saw bits and pieces of Attack of the Puppet People
Couldn't you see it fully?

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I'd have to think about type cast villains who I'd like to see play a good guy
Did you by now? police

Do you agree film industry without ANY awards would be better? Isn't salary & praises/ positive reviews in movie magazines big deal anyway, the awards will collect dust in shelves. But, looks like showing in ritzy gowns & suits & pseudo-joy seeing the other people winning is really important, ha.

I caught some of Attack of the Puppet People years ago on television, but I was never really motivated to seek it out to watch the whole thing. 

No, I haven't really thought of any villian actors I'd like to see play a good person.

I think you can say the same about music too, as the Grammies are a big joke.   But, the award shows are really just an event for the stoking of egos, and completely unnecessary.   Some people enjoy them, as they're into watching celebrities.   Personally, I think it's a bore. 
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: May 11, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Best shrinking film is 1958 science fiction b&w "Attack Of The Puppet People". Check it.

Who would fit to play villain but didn't? Who would you like to see in positive role but usually plays baddies?

I saw bits and pieces of Attack of the Puppet People

Rainn Wilson plays mostly protagonists, even if he character tended to be antagonistic at time.    He's apparently on board to play Lex Luthor in future DC movies.   That should be interesting. 

Since Mel Gibson has been villified in real life, why not cast him as a villain in reel life?

I'd have to think about type cast villains who I'd like to see play a good guy
14  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles SUPER Survivor Thread!!!! on: May 11, 2018, 09:31:30 AM
Mrs. Rigby
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's ok with Hologram Tour on: May 11, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
Who created such crazy-lame thing as "hologram tour" in the 1st place should be punished. & I'm being very kind here. Smiley

The first time I remember it being used was Tupac Shakur (sp?) at some award show.   I can't recall who first came up with the idea of touring a hologram.  

But, I think it's a terrible idea.  

Perhaps not a hologram but I remember there was a lot of debate and controversy when Natalie Cole appeared on stage singing a 'duet' with her late father Nat King Cole on Unforgettable, and Nat's image appeared on a giant screen behind her from an old film clip of him singing the tune.

I think that may have been one of the early examples of this, and if I remember...late 90's they did the Elvis TCB Band tour where the original members like James Burton played an Elvis live set in front of a similar projection of Elvis on screen from previous filmed concerts. I know people who went to that show and loved it, so there ya go.

I do remember the Cole "duet"

If a band is singing to a video, I don't have as much a problem with that, especially if it's just a song or two.   The Beach Boys have done it with Carl and Dennis.   I saw The Who do the same with Keith and John.    Queen + Paul Rodgers played to a video of Freddie Mercury for a song.   I imagine they still do it with Adam Lambert.   

But, I couldn't imagine watching a band play to a video or a hologram for an entire concert.   In the case of Elvis or Orbison, I'd rather see a band play the songs with guest vocalists, and maybe do a song or two with a video, or, I guess, a hologram.   
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs with really cool endings on: May 11, 2018, 05:59:31 AM
The ending of the early Pink Floyd single "Paintbox" sort of reminds me of Magical Mystery Tour with Richard Wright's twinkly piano on the outro. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KygYMI9-Tms
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: May 11, 2018, 05:35:53 AM
I donít think itís a bad idea but that version of ďFun, Fun, FunĒ does not sell me on it at all.

Probably better idea than execution.   
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's ok with Hologram Tour on: May 11, 2018, 05:35:16 AM
Who created such crazy-lame thing as "hologram tour" in the 1st place should be punished. & I'm being very kind here. Smiley

The first time I remember it being used was Tupac Shakur (sp?) at some award show.   I can't recall who first came up with the idea of touring a hologram.   

But, I think it's a terrible idea.   
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's ok with Hologram Tour on: May 10, 2018, 10:18:09 AM
I really hoped that this hologram thing would be a fad, but it actually appears to be gaining momentum. 
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Something's coming...Stay tuned on: May 10, 2018, 09:16:00 AM

 LOL
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album PRESS RELEASE on: May 10, 2018, 08:15:35 AM
I love how "Disney Girls" is on here, even though nobody gives a sh*t about it, and I doubt many would put it on a list of 17 Beach Boys songs to be done with orchestra. So Bruce gets a song on here, but not Al.  Roll Eyes

Considering it's Bruce's signature BB song, and a key track on the Surf's Up album, I wouldn't say that nobody gives a sh*t about Disney Girls.  

It's probably more well known than most of the songs Al wrote.  
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: So are we getting a White Album 50 year release/remix or not? on: May 10, 2018, 05:53:19 AM
God, I hope so! I'm kind of skeptical about it though. Maybe it's just the pessimist in me.  LOL I had read a few months ago that supposedly the Esher demos were going to be released. To be honest, I'm really surprised that we didn't get 50th anniversary sets of either Rubber Soul or Revolver(or both). Both of those albums are in my mind crucial to the history and career of The Beatles.
But this is the Beatles and Apple, they haven't been exactly generous with Vault Beatles. We were lucky to get the Anthology sets.
I doubt we'll get anything more than a reissue of the White Album on White Vinyl.

I'm really surprised The Beatles / Apple haven't released more in recent years.    Even that mash up Love album sold pretty well IIRC. 
There are a couple things the fans have been wanting for years, and still, no sign that they will come out:
Let it Be - the film (on dvd, with outtakes, etc)
Shea Stadium (yeah, I know, we got the Ron Howard doc a couple years ago....)

I don't know what their problem is, I guess they are just waiting till all the Beatles fans are dead to put this stuff out. And that's not going to happen, because the Beatles have fans in all age groups. They are the one British Invasion band that kids in 2018 can tell you about.
Well, maybe the Rolling Stones. But the Stones are still active. The Fab Four have been inactive for decades, but that music still brings in new fans.
So come on, guys, give the people what they want!


Shea Stadium is an absolute no brainer.   For the life of me, I don't understand why it sits on the shelf.   Especially after they showed it in theaters following the Ron Howard doc (which I found a tad underwhelming to be honest).

I remember when George passed, there were rumors of a deluxe Let It Be DVD with gobs of bonus features, but it never happened.    I know it's not exactly their proudest moment, but come on, just about every Beatles fan has already seen the movie.   It was available on VHS and Laserdisc, and bootleg DVDs are very easy to find. 
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: May 10, 2018, 05:29:53 AM
Ha! He played girl very well, looked like cute sporty muscly girl. :D

Would like to get back to this question, in case you prepared the answer - "Since you like narration, did you think seeing specific movie without it that it should be done with it? Any titles?"

There's game 6 degrees to Kevin Bacon. Just for fun, write down degrees. I'll start - Kevin Bacon played with Tom Hanks (1) who likes George Harrison (2) who used to be in Beatles with Paul McCartney (3) who played short "we swapped each other's British/ American accents!" joke with Jimmy Fallon (4) whose guest was Jim Carrey (5) who made hilarious Kevin Bacon (6) parody at Johnny Carson show.

I still don't have an example of movies that should have narration.   BUT, I remember an example of a movie that does have narration that shouldn't.   1981's The Incredible Shrinking Woman

(WARNING - SPOILERS)

In the movie, the titular character offers some narration as she dwindles in size from average size woman to doll size.    At the end of the movie, she appears to shrink into nothingness.   Of course, it turns out, in microscopic form, she falls into some household products that restore her to normal size.   But, her false death is kind of ruined by the fact that she was narrating the movie.   So, unless the audience knows that she's narrating from beyond the grave, it makes it fairly obvious that she didn't die.   Although the tone of the movie also suggests the death of the title character was highly unlikely. 

Kevin Bacon and Boris Karloff

1.  Kevin Bacon was in Animal House with John Belushi

2.   John Belushi was in Goin South with Jack Nicholson

3.  Jack Nicholson was in The Raven with Boris Karloff. 
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Something's coming...Stay tuned on: May 10, 2018, 05:23:53 AM
I was looking for a yawn emoji.   No luck, so

YAWN
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles SUPER Survivor Thread!!!! on: May 09, 2018, 06:09:34 AM
Here Comes the Sun.   
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