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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Great Holland news for 2015! on: January 21, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
Oops, my bad. Thought this was "brand new" news...

// Update: two threads merged by admin, that's why the past 7-8 posts may look funny... Smiley


52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Great Holland news for 2015! on: January 20, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
//Update: two threads merged by admin, so the next 7-8 posts may look funny...


Great news indeed!! Here are links:

http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=detail&Title_ID=95597

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16766.0.html
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy At The Toronto Film Festival on: September 14, 2014, 09:51:09 PM
Ray and Debbie - I've been a fan of the BB and Brian ever since the mid 60's. Thank you for your wonderful posts and for bringing true insights! Keep up the good work! And sincere compliments to Melinda for taking care of Brian!!!  Smiley
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brother Re-Issues: Proposed Bonus Tracks on: July 08, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
(Please forgive my bad English) There's been a lot of stuff released officially, including some great songs from the archives - the latest being Made in California. Unfortunately the BB (etc) are holding on to the rest of the stuff. However, I am pretty sure many of the songs mentioned here will be released officially, but how many more fans will have to die before they release the stuff? Am I being selfish? Because I enjoy everything BB/Brian? "Give the people what the people want" (?) Huh
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 20, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
Does "Why" remind anyone else of TWGMTR (the song) ? I can't help feeling there's a similarity.
Oh yeah, I DEFINATELY see a similarity.…i also hear it on Live Let Live on TLOS


The best!! It's so good, the chords are so good, my stomach hurts... I mean it!! Not many songs do that... Why???
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in current Rock Cellar magazine on: September 11, 2013, 03:01:18 PM

ANYWAY, this struck me as pretty interesting, and would love to hear what he had intended the KTSA song to sound like


I agree!! Is there an early ("Bruce-ier") version of KTSA in the vaults??


It's really amazing when you think about it, we've had the PS and the Smile sessions!!
That's really awesome!!

But what about the rest, will we ever get to hear sessions, outtakes etc before we die?? Wink
Work in progress - fun, educational and inspiring!
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in current Rock Cellar magazine on: September 08, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
WIMPY (OR NOT) - VOL 1:

Tears in the morning
Lookin' at tomorrow
When girls get together
Disney girls
Busy doin' nothin'
Matchpoint of our love
Hold on dear brother
I don't wanna know
The surfer moon
The nearest faraway place
Let's go away for a while
She's goin' bald
Everyone's in love with you
I'm so lonely
She believes in love again
Make it good
Ballad of ole Betsy

Smiley






58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 07, 2013, 09:45:28 AM
It's a pity they didn't speed up Soul searchin'. It's soooo slow...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLTUM2pvZfs
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: You've Lost 'You've Lost That Loving Feelin's's Loving Feelin' on: September 03, 2013, 01:47:40 AM
Ehhrm, could we please go back to the original subject of this thread...
W, Thank you... Wink

One big question is how the BB could go from grand releases and productions
in the early 70's - Sunflower, Surfs up, CatP, Holland, Concert - to mediocre/lousy
productions just a few years later. Just once in my life and Yltlf really deserved/-s better.
Imagine the Wrecking Crew playing on those tracks... Why did the BB choose/allow that
"low budget" production???
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 01, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
Considering Sound of Free was released not as a BB song, but by Dennis Wilson & Rumbo, it's a miracle it (and a few others) made it to the box...

Now, I wonder if Almost summer will ever make it to a BB box.. Wink Actually, I like it - should have been a BB song. And the day someone says there IS a BB recorded version, I will, I will, I....'m gonna cry... Grin

Now, where's We got love?Huh?
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIC Absentees on: September 01, 2013, 03:13:40 AM
1. WE GOT LOVE - their biggest mistake not putting that song on the Holland album. BTW, I'd love Neil Young to do that song... Wink

2. CUDDLE UP - One of Dennis's best moments - so romantic.

3. LONG PROMISED ROAD - Carl at his best.

4. COOL COOL WATER - any version...

5a. YOU NEED A MESS OF HELP TO STAND ALONE - a nice rocker, quite unusual and complex, yet simple. Listen to the harmonies at the end of the song...

5b. MATCHPOINT OF OUR LOVE - I know many people hate this, and yes, the lyrics are quite, errr, well, but it's a nice tune, with an unusual oriental feel. If you like this one, I can also recommend Incense and peppermints/Strawberry Alarm Clock, Colours of darkness/Young Idea, Reflections from the looking glass
/1910 Fruitgum Co., Dragonfly/Fleetwood Mac.

Smiley


And also for the next "Rarities, odds and ends" box... Wink
Here comes the night 1979 instrumental...
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WHAT THE HELL?????? on: September 01, 2013, 03:06:12 AM

"I'm a genius too"................   Tongue
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail Plane Song v. Loop de Loop on: September 01, 2013, 02:21:03 AM
Could Loop de loop have been a hit back in the days? Breakaway was...

Imagine: "The best of Al and the BB"...  Smiley

California, Lady Lynda, Then I kissed her, Loop de loop,
Susie Cincinnatti, Cottonfields, Lookin' at tomorrow...

You name it... Smiley
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 01, 2013, 02:03:19 AM
On first listen the Transcendental Meditation backing track doesn't really add anything to the album version.

Slip on Through sounds very unnatural to me.

Lots of good stuff too though.

TM must be the worst BB song ever... But that's MO... Wink

I recall reading - many many years ago - that either
(memory doesn't serve me well) it was based on, or
a re-write of, or inspired by some 50's jazz tune. Not
strange at all, since most of the Wrecking Crew members
were jazz musicians. Does anyone else recall reading this?
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 01, 2013, 01:54:55 AM
Endless Harmony was not compiled, mixed or mastered by Mark Linett.

... At least not the first issue with the ugly cover. He returned within a year or so to redo some things for the second version.

So there are two different mixes? Which cover is on which one?
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: September 01, 2013, 01:48:41 AM
And there's way too much darn treble!

This is exactly what I was posting about in "all of MIC" thread.  What I don't understand is, weren't Endless Harmony and Hawthorne CA compiled by the same people as the 2012 remasters and MIC?  Why the compression and treble on the latter?  Should we not be seeing the sound quality improve over the years?  My depressing theory is that it's yet another example of "designed for earbuds" contemporary mastering.


Take "Marcella' for example. Sounded really bright, glassy and and piercing to me when I first sampled it, so I pulled out my 2000 Sandoval-Hersch version to compare. While both may or may not be dynamically compromised, the earlier one just has a richer, better overall balance than the "whiter and brighter," 2013 Linett version (though, one might argue that even *that* earlier one is a bit over-EQed). The new Linett version also seems to have a bit of a channel imbalance -- with a louder right channel -- if one listens or looks at the waveform. Odd.

I don't know what anyone else's preference is, but personally again, and while perhaps not perfect, I'll still stick with that aforementioned Sandoval-Hersch 2000 version for this particular track. Smiley


(Note: I didn't pull out "Classics" to compare that mastering, but the earlier, '93 box set version, mastered by Larry Walsh and ML almost sounds like it's from an inferior tape source and with some possible NR on it. I also didn't dig out the original Gastwirt, CATP version. But, I seem to recall that one as being pretty uninspired, tape source-wise, as well.)


The SH version has a much richer, fuller sound, no doubt about it.
Please enlighten me - what album/release/version/year?
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBNTLA Reviews on: August 26, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
For those who are interested in, the MIC version is different from mine. Both are identical until 3.36 but the "jam section" is totally different and, to be honest, better in the MIC version (in particular, there is no flute on my version). My version looks like definely a demo.


Thanks for the comparison notes! I was going to post, and was curious as to whether or not the two versions were the same, and if not, what exact differences might exist? Very interesting!

"My version"?? To my knowledge it has never ever been booted...(?) What boot is the "demo" on??
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Post Release MIC Track Discussion on: August 26, 2013, 06:29:19 AM
Can't wait to hear all of MIC... Mouth watering... Smiley

Wonder if they ever going to release the Coke sessions, or Daddy dear, great stuff!
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBNTLA Reviews on: August 24, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine WIBNTLA and We got love on the "Holland" album.... Wink
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIC Absentees on: August 21, 2013, 01:52:05 AM
1. WE GOT LOVE - their biggest mistake not putting that song on the Holland album. BTW, I'd love Neil Young to do that song... Wink

2. CUDDLE UP - One of Dennis's best moments - so romantic.

3. LONG PROMISED ROAD - Carl at his best.

4. COOL COOL WATER - any version...

5a. YOU NEED A MESS OF HELP TO STAND ALONE - a nice rocker, quite unusual and complex, yet simple. Listen to the harmonies at the end of the song...

5b. MATCHPOINT OF OUR LOVE - I know many people hate this, and yes, the lyrics are quite, errr, well, but it's a nice tune, with an unusual oriental feel. If you like this one, I can also recommend Incense and peppermints/Strawberry Alarm Clock, Colours of darkness/Young Idea, Reflections from the looking glass
/1910 Fruitgum Co., Dragonfly/Fleetwood Mac.

Smiley
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIC Absentees on: August 21, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
If you're not happy with it, why not just go read another thread?HuhHuh


The user who opened this thread does. So be polite & don't spam. Tongue


Sorry,  I can't think of a polite way to say 'this is a stupid idea for a thread'
 

ps, I'm trolling, not spamming.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Great shopping experience on: July 19, 2013, 01:10:57 PM
I was passing by a clothing store today (mostly young people' s clothes). They had a speaker outside and out of it came........... You're so good to me!! It's a busy street in the mid of my home town, Halmstad (on the sunny side of Sweden, we call it California of Sweden... Wink  ), lots of shops and restaurants, and lots of passers by... I went into the store and on came........ Wild honey!!! It was almost a religious experience... It felt like the 60's again. Then came....... Darlin'!!! Wow... But unfortunately I had to move on. Certainly not your everyday shopping experience... Smiley

It wasn't until I got home I realized it was from 50 Big Ones. So if they played the whole cd people must have heard All this is that, Friends, Heroes, I just wasn't and more goodies... Smiley

/Bengt
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: June 23, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
Hi Stephen:

First of all thanks a million for what you did for the BB's!!!  Smiley And thanks a lot for the links on your own pages, great great stuff!! Made my day!! Especially CCW!! Perhaps we could have had the tracks as mp3's or wav's, but your insightful explanation of every part makes it, don't know what to say, thrilling!! All the where's and why's... Thank you thank you thank you!!! The Beach Boys for connoisseurs...!!! Listening  

I love to hear the different versions and breakdowns. I am hoping for a double/triple cd series of vocals only + instrumentals only of all BB albums...

Now, Sunflower has been my favorite album (next to PS), because of the excellent mixing and production. I remember the BB always using the latest techniques back then, with astounding results. Visiting my aunt when Sunflower was released - purchased the album, put it on my aunt's record player, and they had a huge room, sooooo wonderful, I couldn't stop playing, played it all day!!! Especially "CCW" and "Our sweet love"!!! I was so sad I wasn't able to listen to the quad version... I've also waited 40+ years to learn how the drip drop sounds were made - a big secret back then!!!   Cheesy

There's another thread on here, "Cool Cool Water Live 1971 on Mike Douglas", where you mention you taped rehearsals (or practice performances) of "CCW" - now that would be something...!!!  Smiley

Cheers from Sweden  Smiley
Bengt Stenstrom






COMMENT:


Study-Videos can now be viewed via this link:


SWD Study-Videos  >>>   http://swdstudyvideos.com

The Break Away Study-Video is up and running.  Please visit. It's informative and fun.

It’s all there.

Good Listening,
 ~Stephen W. Desper


And, Please leave any return comments here at the Desper thread.






74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love's Celebration band & album(s) on: February 08, 2013, 02:00:50 AM
Sorry, links don't work...
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Holland booklet on: July 04, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Bret D. Wheadon, the author of www.beachboys.com? I noticed he put a link to an old page of mine and I'd like him to change the link. Can't find an email address. It's a link for the Holland promo booklet. If anyone's interested, it's here:

http://www.bsten.se/holland.htm

Smiley

/Bengt
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