Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Hey! A couple of questions:

1) I recall reading somewhere that they (the BB's) borrowed from a 50's jazz tune when making "Transcendental Meditation".
True or false?

2) Where can I find a copy of the booklet about the recording of Holland issued same year? (real or pdf...)

Thanks!

/Bengt

...or they've decided to perpetuate the SMiLE myth by bringing it this close to release and then scuttling it for another 46 years.

So true, won't believe it till it's in my hands. Even then I'll be skeptical.

Translation: even though Mike Love ostensibly put his signature on the dotted line to permit the "Smile" box, Love or his attorneys could still stop the release with objections to the liner notes or mixes.

We'll probably get a box full of Transcendental Meditation outtakes... ;P

/B

[Future ReleaseOn February 3rd, 2011, Alan Jardine spoke to Examiner.com to inform them that "Capitol Records plans to issue a Beach Boys version of Smile sometime this summer to begin the celebration of The Beach Boys’ 50th anniversary.]

Just read the updated SMILE info on Wiki:

Future Release
On February 3rd, 2011, Alan Jardine spoke to Examiner.com to inform them that "Capitol Records plans to issue a Beach Boys version of Smile sometime this summer to begin the celebration of The Beach Boys’ 50th anniversary.

"...Smile..." "...to begin the celebration..."

So how will they finish off??? 

/B

50th anniversary!! What would be more fun than hearing the very first songs live???

Misirlou, Ten little indians, Summertime blues, What is a young girl made of, The baker man, Little girl,
County fair, Noble surfer, Lana............. Remember them?

/B

Strange album - worst of the BB?

Only half (1:37) of Lady Lynda.
Carl drunk (?) on my favorite All this is that - btw, it's 7:51 with a loooong Charles Lloyd sax solo (great!!).
Horrible singing many songs, esp on Surfer girl, H&V & Surfin USA.

Highlight though is Dennis and Your'e so beautiful!!

/B

Just listened to the John Phillips version of "Kokomo" - a lot different - and a LOT better than Mike + the BB's version (IMHO)! It has Denny Doherty on lead vocals. From the album "Many Mamas, Many Papas" BTW. On there you'll also find "Fairy tale girl - Somewhere near Japan"...

http://www.discogs.com/John-Phillips-Featuring-Denny-Doherty-Spanky-McFarlane-MacKenzie-Phillips-And-Scott-McKenzie-Many-Ma/release/2463455

I also highly recommend Denny Doherty's version of "To Cludia on Thursday" from "California 99".

You can hear 'em on Spotify...

/B

I 'm looking at a BBC documentary called "How The Beatles Rocked The Kremlin". This from a site:

http://extravagantcreation.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/how-the-beatles-rocked-the-kremlin/

"The most fascinating part of the film, for me, was seeing how bootleg Beatles recordings were made by transferring their songs, which had been recorded on tape recorders from foreign radio broadcasts, into cut grooves on used radiographic film, i.e. old, discarded x-rays of, mostly, lungs.  The resulting “flexi-disks,” which could be carried on one’s person hidden inside a coat sleeve, were sold on the black market, at great personal risk to buyer and seller from the Soviet authorities, for three rubles a pop.  The flexi-disks were referred to as “ribs” because of the x-ray images on them."

Here's another link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8232235.stm

Does anyone know of any Beach Boys "ribs"??


/B

I've seen a major record store on the net that not only sells vinyl but also supply you with a cd copy (costs extra),
but I cannot remember the name of the store. Can anyone please help? Thx!!!

Cheers   

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10169.msg182156.html#msg182156

Thanks for the link!!

It's strange to see a boot listed on Amazon, but it happens occasionally, and clearly did in that case.  Through the Amazon marketplace feature, it's possible for independent sellers to list stuff like that occasionally.  Of course, it's removed if noticed by any of the powers that be.

Yikes - who wants boots... ;P

Here's a "special edition" w/track list (click on back of cd) - the official 2 cd set?

http://www.amazon.com/Smile-Second-Beach-Boys/dp/B0018CB95Y/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1303926975&sr=8-18

"Second edition" When was the first edition out? Another "Shut down vol 2"??

And here's another link with release date:

http://cdon.eu/music/beach_boys/the_smile_sessions_-_box_set-14166753

/B

Strangely DFTS is marketed as an Al Jardine song, though it contains (almost) all of the boys...  Contractual reasons? Otherwise it is the first decent Beach Boys song in years.... Wink

Strangely DFTS is marketed as an Al Jardine song, though it contains (almost) all of the boys...  Contractual reasons? Otherwise it is the first decent Beach Boys song in years....

http://www.soundstagedirect.com/beach-boys-japan-relief-vinyl-records.shtml

This thread from last year (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8640.0.html) has a few interesting/humorous alternate history posts.

Thanks for the link!  

And now back to the real world. I find these facts very strange. (about Beatles Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever - from Wikipedia)

"In the UK, the pairing famously failed to reach #1 in the singles charts, stalling one place below Engelbert Humperdinck's "Release Me". In the US the song reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for a week before being knocked off by The Turtles song "Happy Together"".

EH more popular than the Beatles? And only one week at the top in the US?
Those songs are some of the most well-written pop songs ever!

And this also from Wikileaks, sorry ...pedia:

""Sloop John B" was extremely successful, scoring a #3 hit in the U.S. and #2 in Great Britain. "Wouldn't It Be Nice" reached #8 in the U.S. Its flip side, "God Only Knows," was another #2 single in Britain, but reached only #39 in the States. The LP broke into the Top Ten in the U.S., belying its reputation as a commercial failure there. In Australia, the album was only released under the title The Fabulous Beach Boys on the Music for Pleasure label". (!!!)

On the other hand, "Good vibrations" made it to #1 both in the UK and the US - so was SMILE really ahead of its time? Could perhaps "Surf's up" have made it to the top of the charts? Who knows???

If I could witness Mike chicken dancing 'round stage while crooning "over and over the crow flies uncover the cornfield" I could die a happy man.

As if this isn't enough... ;P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2qE61E0i7s

Gee, who here has wondered that for the last 40 some odd years?  

Well, to-and-fro, so I thought it was time to brush the dust away...

I'm just happy we'll be seeing SMiLE in some form.

Me too!!!

I had it been a success... who knows? I still think something like Wild Honey would have come next. The Beatles went back to a more stripped down sound, so perhaps The Beach Boys would have too... But then again, had SMiLE been a success perhaps it would have influenced the Beatles into a different direction and the two groups would have continued to play off each other.

Yes, perhaps Sgt Pepper had taken another direction? Maybe Smile had influencenced other people/artists? Pet Sounds + Smile contains (-ed) some very intelligent music - could Brian top that? How far can a genious go before a breakdown? Something like Wild Honey seems reasonable. Look at the Beatles what happened. The albums following Sgt Pepper (and Penny Lane/SFF for that matter) were (IMHO) not in the same class.

For most of us fans Smile is the Holy Grail of music, but now, 40 years later, will it be marketed as such? Or will it be just another "Indie" release?

...what would have come next?

 

Brian did his own version of Smile and will certainly be doing Smile cuts at concerts in the future.
But the big Q is: will Mike and Bruce be doing Smile songs? And what about Al?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b16Ubm3gbLI

 

Kayla Williams !!!
The female side of the Beach Boys - listen to the harmonies - she does all the vocals herself!!!
www.kaylawilliams.com

- listen here -
http://www.youtube.com/user/kaylawilliamsmusic
- click on "show all"
(there are about 20 BB covers - all awesome!)


Carter Cathcart
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/carterc

- listen here -
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/carterc/excerpts.ram
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/carterc/ido.ram

 

Why not bundle them... Why not release Smile + Disney as a twofer - or fourfer or fivefer - or whatever...  

Thanks all! Yes - the vocal sessions are really nice to listen to - legal or not. Let's hope for more sessions during our lifetime... Some of the stuff should be used for educational purposes!

Of the Smile sessions - how much would you say has leaked (bootlegs etc)? 10%? 25%? 50%? 75%?

And the same for unreleased material by the BB/BW - how much would you say has leaked?

/Just curious

I've seen a major record store on the net that not only sells vinyl but also supply you with a cd copy (costs extra),
but I cannot remember the name of the store. Can anyone please help? Thx!!!

Cheers