So is my jazz collection

I felt that way about the windmills too, but now... providing they don't take over the landscape and they do prove productive, I'm in favor.

Barney Kessel

If Dennis had been alive and sung lead people woulda been creamin' themselves.  He wasn't; he didn't; it's an okay song from a once great band who lost their way over ten years earlier.

Christ, you can find 'strong' 'evidence' and 'facts' and ' figures' for either side of the argument.  Some people will never be convinced because they're too busy looking at who's making he arguments and who has to gain - which of course is the same for either side (unless, of course it's some nut case making the argument on a nut case show on a nut case channel  aimed at nut case viewers).  It makes more sense to agree that pollution ain't good and we should all be doing a hell of a lot more to look after our environment.  It shouldn't have to take the fear of rising tides and alarming changes in temperature to make us realise that.  Unless you, too, are a nut case.

Sounds like someone's caught his dick in his zipper.

It's awful!

I thought he sponged money off Brian for drugs.

"Jesus Christ. Quoting."

Santa Ana Winds
Heaven

"After the May 1967 European tour ended, Bruce went to Ibiza and then to London. He was still there in early June.  His role within the BBs at that time is complicated.  He admitted in an interview at that time that none of the other BBs really socialized much with him...he was the only single one at that time.  You get the feeling that in 1967 he was still sort of seen as a glorified session man at times....it's possible that they rather coldly told him that his services weren't needed for the project...He also still saw himself as a producer...he worked with Graham Bonney at that time and others...He took a larger role in the group in 1968 in the 20/20 period.  I think that even Al had trouble for a few years gaining the full acceptance of "the family""
Wasn't it round about this time that they tried to ditch him in favour of Billy Hinsche?

Wouldn't have fitted the awful AOR sound that Carl seemed to be interested in pursuing at that time.

Thanks. I figured as much.

I swiped this from a Jason Pennick post on The Record Room.   http://s3.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=54492&threadid=626093&page=3                       
What's the story?


I just found that quote from Art Guy of the band Smokestack Lightning that I referenced earlier in the thread. Pretty interesting insight into the Hite Morgan era.

Quote:
60s: You recorded and released a great single as a solo artist (“Where You Gonna Go”, Valiant 762) in 1967. I assume this was prior to the start of Smokestack Lightnin’?

AG: When the New Dimensions were together, we later recorded at a studio in Hollywood known as Stereo Masters. Stereo Masters was owned by Hyte and Dorinda Morgan. They had been in the music and record business for many, many years. They helped Ray Charles in the early days and were largely responsible for the early success of the Beach Boys. You probably will never hear it from Brian Wilson, however Dorinda Morgan was the ghost writer of “Surfer Girl” and “In My Room”. She gave the credit to young Brian Wilson and he never looked back. The Wilson's father Murray, could not handle the young group and didn't have a clue what to do with them or for them. Hyte and Dorinda took the Beach Boys on a handshake, because that's the kind of people they were. Their first hit “Surfin'” was recorded at Stereo Masters and released on the Morgan's independent label. It started to take off and they cut a deal with Capitol for re-release. Capitol had them re-record the record to polish it since the group at the time couldn't play or sing well. In fact, when we played with them at the surf fair at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium in about 1962-63, they had just come from a concert where we were told the audience had thrown things at them because their performance was so lousy. Needless to say, when the Beach Boys started to take off, Murray Wilson went running back in, snatched the group from the Morgan's and went to Capitol as their representative. There was a long legal battle over publishing, recording rights, etc., but in the end without proper contracts the Morgan's basically lost out. Even back then, the Beach Boys and their family were not great or ethical people, especially Brian and his father.

So you mean Leaf, Melinda and Landy aren't always responsible for the bad press Love gets?! I thought we were living in revisionist revisionist times!  Gee whiz, who'd a thunk it?   

"Bruce is such a feminine looking guy. Just imagine some breasts formed on him and his hips grew a little wider and his hair was bigger and fluffier. Strange, too, considering his name is Bruce. "

What the F*** Are You talking About?? 

"Swear to God, if there was a Hoffman poll entitled who has the bigger thumbs, the Beach Boys or the Beatles, the board would be flooded with people making sure the Beatles didn't come second.    "

Yeah, but then you'd canned by a 'Gort', which, for those who don't know, is an adult huiman being who has the power to suck and blow at the same time!

God, I thought this was going to be a Hoffman style thread - Dennis needs the holy benediction of the Beatles before his music can be considered good.   

sh*t then and sh*t now.  It brings nothing new to the game and desecrates a good song off a great album.

Yeah, okay, so leave our boy sleeping rough.  That'll help him. 

"8.  It was Carl who recorded a duet with Olivia Newton John, and he performed “God Only Knows” with Marilyn McCoo on Solid Gold.  "  And we've forgiven him by now.

Their legacy?  In Europe they'll be regarded as one of the most influential bands in rock/pop; in the US, it'll be like - sorry, no gut-wrenching guitar solos, so they suck ass OR the British bands were so much better - everyone back to my place to listen to Freddie and the Dreamers OR Christ, they couldn't sing as well as the Temptations - Motown was the sound of young America, you know (of course, not the sound of young Black America, mind you...).  They'll have cult status and be appreciated among those who really know and when you see some middle-aged shitbag singing karaoke Kiss, you'll thank God they're not with us.

He may be an asshole, but he's our asshole.

The Cab board was my favorite, but it broke down down so many times that people seemed to leave in droves.  On top of that, there are a couple of a-s-s-holes who want to be evangelistic about their political views and their constant holier than thou squabbling is off-putting, to put it mildly.  This board is easily the most informative, even if some good posters won't post here, for entirely understandable reasons.

If I was you, I'd get over the blue.  It is what is.  The site would be better without the message board.

It's also amazing that there are people who reckon he was better off then...

Thought the BBC documentary was poor on, and somewhat dismissive of, the post-SMiLE stuff, but very good on the earlier days.