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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better
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on: June 26, 2007, 03:23:28 PM
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what's wierd about so tough is that we never hear the beach boys sound like that again. It's a totally new sound from dennis (what could have been his first solo album)...Mess of Help, Marcella, All this; is sooo fresh and new...I feel like when they went to holland, it was back to the Surf's Up era of producing...not that that's a bad thing
In a way that's true with tracks like 'Steam Boat' and 'California Sega'. But I think that songs like 'Sail On Sailor', 'Leaving this Town', 'Trader' and 'Funky Pretty' are a step beyond So Tough.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis hated Smile????
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on: June 24, 2007, 06:03:13 PM
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Mike said with his own lips in the EH documentary that he doesn't care for the lyrics. As for the music, I'm not sure, but he also said that he felt that H & V was the last great Brian track. I think that he liked the music, but disliked the lyrics. He probably also was annoyed at Brian's paranoid state (ex. Brian thinking that the Fire tapes causing buildings to burn down, and Phil Spector bugging his house, etc)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better
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on: June 24, 2007, 05:58:36 PM
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It is up for debate who's songs were better of Dennis and Brian post 1968. However, the more reliable and consistant of the two was definately Dennis. Of course somebody might say that Brian still had more credits then Dennis in that time, but there is a reason for that. Probably 90% of the songs Brian did were released compared to 40% of Dennis songs. Of course I'm making those numbers up, but you get the point.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not
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on: June 24, 2007, 05:47:46 PM
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True but how could John Lennon do the godawful Sometime In New York City and then the great Walls and Bridges? Every great group releases bombs. I never vary from these 13 artists who stand about the rest to me. There are a couple dozen more who I think are terrific and about 100 artists altogether who I respect enough to buy some of their stuff. Still these remain the best. The Beach Boys and Elvis stand a little above anyone else.
My favorite groups Beach Boys, First Edition, Who, Stones, Beatles, Jackson Five, Small Faces.
Fave duos Jan and Dean, Ike and Tina
Fave solo acts Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Dylan, James Brown
Elvis? I don't agree at all. How much music did he compose? Produce? I mean he was a very good singer and performer, and very good looking (not that I would know). But that's about it.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not
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on: June 24, 2007, 05:36:39 PM
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When you consider the Beatles popularity and music quality combined, they are the #1 group of all time. Competing with them in sales, I can only think of Michael Jackson, and there may be some others, but they don't compare musically. Musically, there are many bands as good, if not better then them, but don't compare in sales. The Beach Boys, Pink Floyd and U2 are the closest both musically and in sales that I can think of.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not
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on: June 22, 2007, 10:35:30 PM
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You can't go wrong with any of these bands as the best pop group ever: Beach Boys, Beatles, The Who, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Chicago, U2, REM or Radiohead.
In my humblest of opinions.
I suppose that the biggest problem with the BBs is the inconsistancy. I mean, how could the same band do Pet Sounds and 15 Big Ones?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better
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on: June 20, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
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Ok here is my list.
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Wild Honey: include-Cool Cool Water, Can't Wait Too Long and Gettin Hungry disclude-I Was Made to Love Her and Mama Says
Friends: include-I Went To Sleep, Time to Get Alone, A Time to Live in Dreams, Lonely Days and Old Man River disclude-Transcendetal Meditation
20/20: include: Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, and Loop De Loop disclude: Blubirds, Cotton Fields, I Went to Sleep, Time to Get Alone and Smile out takes (because in my world, Smile would've come out in 1967)
Sunflower: include: San Miguel and Barbara disclude: Got to Know the Woman and Cool, Cool Water
Surfs Up (Landlocked): include: Fourth of July, Soul of Free and Lady disclude: Take a Load Off, Student Demonstration, and Surfs Up
So Tough/Holland (double album with Mt Vernon and Fairway): include: We Got Love disclude: He Come Down and Only With You
15 Big Ones: disclude: all of it
Other post albums should include: Winter Symphony, Still I Dream of It and Its Over Now
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread
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on: June 19, 2007, 10:04:46 PM
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I wanted to ask if there is any news of the Flame LP's being reissued? I hope vinyl will be done as companies like Sundazzed, Get Back, Nortan, and now again Rhino do great LP packages.
I just stumbled upon an unopened Flame LP. I have no idea if it is reissued or not. The year was not anywhere to be seen on the record.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lyrics
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on: June 18, 2007, 10:25:26 PM
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Even though I have never seen Surfin USA give any credit to Mike, I have always assumed that he had a big hand in the lyrics. It seems like something that he would right. That is assuming that he wrote all (most) of the lyrics to songs like Fun Fun Fun, I Get Around, California Girls, etc.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is this all of them??
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on: June 17, 2007, 01:46:21 PM
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I have the Sea of Tunes sessions from Friends and 20/20. I think it's volume 18. Anyway, the last 2 tracks are 'America I Know You'. It is spoken poetry (I believe Kalinich is talking) with backround music. I love it. Is that from the Kalinich/Wilson poetry or world peace album I keep hearing about?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is this all of them??
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on: June 15, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
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* Reverberation * California Feeling * the unmade 'ecological' concept album * Cousins, Friends And Brothers
BRIAN WILSON * A World Of Peace Must Come (with Steve Kalinich) * The Wilson Project (with Gary Usher)
DENNIS WILSON * Hubba Hubba
Oh. Yeah, so you did have Adult Child. THe above ones that I've left in your quote I have never heard of before. Was California Feening the working title for an album? What are these others? What about the Hamburger (Cocaine) sessions?
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