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2801  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stephen Kalinich - ONLY collaborator with ALL 3 Wilson brothers? on: July 07, 2007, 08:55:27 PM
Who has Murray written with? I know he did Breakaway with Brian. Did he do anything with Dennis or Carl?

Of course he was not really an outsider either.
2802  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB's get two albums in RS albums of 1967 on: July 05, 2007, 09:31:57 PM
The music for 'Can't Wait Too Long', 'Do You Dig Worms', and a long version of 'Good Vibrations' may have worked with Morrison's lyrics.
2803  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB's get two albums in RS albums of 1967 on: July 03, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
That goes to tell you that a half hearted effort from Brian and the Beach Boys can stand the test of time as well as anyone. These are a far cry from what Smile would have been yet they are still very solid albums!
2804  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: June 28, 2007, 09:29:01 PM
What year was the birthday picture? Dennis and Carl it looks like 76 or 77, but I didn't think Brian ever shaved at that time. Maybe 78 or 79 before Brian gained weight again?
2805  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better on: June 26, 2007, 03:23:28 PM
what's wierd about so tough is that we never hear the beach boys sound like that again. It's a totally new sound from dennis (what could have been his first solo album)...Mess of Help, Marcella, All this; is sooo fresh and new...I feel like when they went to holland, it was back to the Surf's Up era of producing...not that that's a bad thing

In a way that's true with tracks like 'Steam Boat' and 'California Sega'. But I think that songs like 'Sail On Sailor', 'Leaving this Town', 'Trader' and 'Funky Pretty' are a step beyond So Tough.
2806  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis hated Smile???? on: June 24, 2007, 06:03:13 PM
Mike said with his own lips in the EH documentary that he doesn't care for the lyrics. As for the music, I'm not sure, but he also said that he felt that H & V was the last great Brian track. I think that he liked the music, but disliked the lyrics. He probably also was annoyed at Brian's paranoid state (ex. Brian thinking that the Fire tapes causing buildings to burn down, and Phil Spector bugging his house, etc)
2807  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better on: June 24, 2007, 05:58:36 PM
It is up for debate who's songs were better of Dennis and Brian post 1968. However, the more reliable and consistant of the two was definately Dennis. Of course somebody might say that Brian still had more credits then Dennis in that time, but there is a reason for that. Probably 90% of the songs Brian did were released compared to 40% of Dennis songs. Of course I'm making those numbers up, but you get the point.
2808  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not on: June 24, 2007, 05:47:46 PM
True but how could John Lennon do the godawful Sometime In New York City and  then the great Walls and Bridges? Every great group releases bombs.
I never vary from these 13 artists who stand about the rest to me. There are a couple dozen more who I think are terrific and about 100 artists altogether who I respect enough to buy some of their stuff. Still these remain the best. The Beach Boys and Elvis stand a little above anyone else.

My favorite groups
Beach Boys, First Edition, Who, Stones, Beatles, Jackson Five, Small Faces.

Fave duos
Jan and Dean, Ike and Tina

Fave solo acts
Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Dylan, James Brown

Elvis? I don't agree at all. How much music did he compose? Produce? I mean he was a very good singer and performer, and very good looking (not that I would know). But that's about it.
2809  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not on: June 24, 2007, 05:36:39 PM
When you consider the Beatles popularity and music quality combined, they are the #1 group of all time. Competing with them in sales, I can only think of Michael Jackson, and there may be some others, but they don't compare musically. Musically, there are many bands as good, if not better then them, but don't compare in sales.
 
The Beach Boys, Pink Floyd and U2 are the closest both musically and in sales that I can think of.
2810  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: do you ever go back and forth.....or not on: June 22, 2007, 10:35:30 PM
You can't go wrong with any of these bands as the best pop group ever: Beach Boys, Beatles, The Who, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Chicago, U2, REM or Radiohead.

In my humblest of opinions.

I suppose that the biggest problem with the BBs is the inconsistancy. I mean, how could the same band do Pet Sounds and 15 Big Ones?
2811  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better on: June 20, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
Ok here is my list.

Th

Wild Honey:
 include-Cool Cool Water, Can't Wait Too Long and Gettin Hungry
 disclude-I Was Made to Love Her and Mama Says

Friends:
 include-I Went To Sleep, Time to Get Alone, A Time to Live in Dreams, Lonely Days and Old Man    River
 disclude-Transcendetal Meditation

20/20:
 include: Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, and Loop De Loop
 disclude: Blubirds, Cotton Fields, I Went to Sleep, Time to Get Alone and Smile out takes (because in my world, Smile would've come out in 1967)

Sunflower:
 include: San Miguel and Barbara
 disclude: Got to Know the Woman and Cool, Cool Water

Surfs Up (Landlocked):
 include: Fourth of July, Soul of Free and Lady
 disclude: Take a Load Off, Student Demonstration, and Surfs Up

So Tough/Holland (double album with Mt Vernon and Fairway):
 include: We Got Love
 disclude: He Come Down and Only With You

15 Big Ones:
 disclude: all of it

Other post albums should include: Winter Symphony, Still I Dream of It and Its Over Now
2812  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: June 20, 2007, 10:08:10 PM
If it has a bar code it's the new vinyl version released last year. It sounds great actually.

And so it does.
2813  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: June 19, 2007, 10:04:46 PM
I wanted to ask if there is any news of the Flame LP's being reissued? I hope vinyl will be done as companies like Sundazzed, Get Back, Nortan, and now again Rhino do great LP packages.

I just stumbled upon an unopened Flame LP. I have no idea if it is reissued or not. The year was not anywhere to be seen on the record.
2814  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Jon Stebbins Thread on: June 19, 2007, 10:02:47 PM
I almost died laughing when I read the bit about Mike bugging Dave about writing home to his parents. Then to see what he finally wrote and showed it to Mike. Hillarious!!
2815  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smile Reference Threads / Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... on: June 19, 2007, 09:59:44 PM
Of course Murray was always barking at his boys, maybe they cought it on tape and put it on Moon Dawg.  Grin
2816  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: To make an album better on: June 19, 2007, 09:47:45 PM
I would include Fourth of July and Soul of Free
2817  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lyrics on: June 18, 2007, 10:25:26 PM
Even though I have never seen Surfin USA give any credit to Mike, I have always assumed that he had a big hand in the lyrics. It seems like something that he would right. That is assuming that he wrote all (most) of the lyrics to songs like Fun Fun Fun, I Get Around, California Girls, etc.
2818  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if on: June 17, 2007, 01:57:29 PM
I think of Surf's Up as a step up from God Only Knows or Caroline, No. Which I guess weren't big hits, but they were both top 50, and have only grown with time. Expecially, GOK.
2819  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is this all of them?? on: June 17, 2007, 01:46:21 PM
I have the Sea of Tunes sessions from Friends and 20/20. I think it's volume 18. Anyway, the last 2 tracks are 'America I Know You'. It is spoken poetry (I believe Kalinich is talking) with backround music. I love it. Is that from the Kalinich/Wilson poetry or world peace album I keep hearing about?
2820  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do we need a definitive vocal credits thread? on: June 17, 2007, 01:35:34 PM
Sounds good. I've always thought Al might be singing on the verses of 'Bluebirds'. But I can see how Bruce and Carl combined could sound like Al.
2821  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is this all of them?? on: June 15, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
* Reverberation
* California Feeling
* the unmade 'ecological' concept album
* Cousins, Friends And Brothers



BRIAN WILSON
* A World Of Peace Must Come (with Steve Kalinich)
* The Wilson Project (with Gary Usher)


DENNIS WILSON
* Hubba Hubba



Oh. Yeah, so you did have Adult Child. THe above ones that I've left in your quote I have never heard of before. Was California Feening the working title for an album? What are these others?

What about the Hamburger (Cocaine) sessions?
2822  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if on: June 15, 2007, 11:13:51 PM
I wonder how Surf's Up would've done as a single in 67. I wouldn't be suprised it if that would've been a top 10 hit.
2823  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 10 Dennis on: June 13, 2007, 03:06:34 PM
River Song
Celebrate the News
Never Learn Not to Love
Fourth of July
Rainbows
A Time to Live in Dreams
Little Bird
It's About Time
Steam Boat
Sound of Free
2824  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's on: June 12, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
You can't talk about a humor album without including Johnny Carson!
2825  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most brilliant Brian song? on: June 12, 2007, 01:10:22 PM
Give me 'Mt Vernon and Fairway'
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