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51  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Extraordinarily disappointing news regarding Scott Bennett on: May 08, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
Curious, was it the hotel security staff who called the police department ?  I imagine in a hotel this size, the security staff is monitoring a multitude of hotel  camera's just as they are also looking at the gaming tables.  Article mentions them in the elevator at 1am the morning of 12/5/14.  Then it mentions the police speaking with both Scott and the unnamed lady the next morning.  All just so sad on so many levels for all concerned.

Who knows where this goes in the hell lawsuits and lawyers.  Sad yes this couldn't be stopped real time by security.  Because the young lady doesn't recall the incident, I'm thankful that in 2014 we have this stuff is real time and apparently (though its unclear to me) the hotel called the local authorities.  Yes they did their job.....I'm just glad for her sake, they made the call.
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BBs headlining Memorial Day concert in DC on: April 28, 2016, 04:16:51 PM
Instead of bringing surf boards to the concert, how about a coffin with James Watt's name on it......probably have to be at least 45 to get this I suppose
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Meet & Greets and contacting the touring band management on: April 27, 2016, 12:07:56 PM
Great question Marty...My only Meet and Greet was the C50 Cleveland show in June 2012.  Seems to me I received all the docs one week prior to the show. It was "Live Nation" I believe for the C50 tour.  The docs spoke of your timing issues.  Correct ID,  timing and where to get in line.  I do recall we couldn't get anything signed.  But at other shows I've been at, I have seen where people did get stuff signed.....Good Luck !
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love book out in September on: April 18, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
Tell me more about the C50 situation? I assumed it was participation as opposed to salaried for Al being a member of BRI.
So was it salaries for David, Al and Bruce? %'s for Mike and Brian?
Great question.....and the answer will say a lot about the BB's/BRI organizational "status and structure" from 1962 to C50.  Had Al been marginalized long before the 90's by the group ?  Thinking back, hasn't it been posted previously over the years here, that when Al returned to the band after the Dental school/David Marks situation, he wasn't a principal and did not receive that status until Bruce's time off from the band in the 70's ?
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson Live in Japan on: April 15, 2016, 09:07:12 AM
Great posts Woodstock....3x in 4 nights.  A lot of jealous people across the two ponds is my guess including myself at the top of the list.  Be safe going home and again, thank you for the commentaries.  So sad to think I still have to wait 6 months for the Seattle show on 10/8.
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / 6.5 magnitude earthquake in southern Japan on: April 14, 2016, 03:08:01 PM
Looks to be far enough south of Osaka that it shouldn't affect this evenings show in Osaka.  Has anyone heard from Woodstock ?? 
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes And Villains slideshow video on: April 05, 2016, 02:58:55 PM
Actually, I'm now wondering what the reaction to H&V would be if BW and VDP were in a room alone together seeing this.....spellbound
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes And Villains slideshow video on: April 05, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Great stuff Krablaw and a big time +1 To Master Painters comments.  I thought H&V was stunningly beautiful. 
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BBs scary travel experiences, or mishaps on the road on: April 04, 2016, 03:19:46 PM
Guessing with all the spring/summer shows through the Midwest US over 50 years, they've dance dance dance"d" their way through a few tornado warnings.
Especially driving in a bus to the next gig.
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is Steve Love A Credible Source? on: March 26, 2016, 10:26:42 AM
To both OT and EOL....great stuff guys.
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour) on: March 26, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
Good Lord, the October 8th show in Seattle seems like forever after reading your comments......enjoy this evenings show and can't wait to read your feedback
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: March 24, 2016, 06:01:12 PM
Rocky.....back to my question about Al.  I haven't seen his name mentioned through 81 pages of the thread.  Your general thoughts about Al ??   and will he be mentioned in your book ?? 
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: March 23, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
Rocky.......time to take a deep inhale and relax a bit.....How was your relationship with Al jardine back when you were on the payroll.  I seem to recall Mr Daro saying what a kind gentle soul Al was back in the mid 60's.  How about some of your thoughts on Al and are there any Al discussions in your upcoming book ?
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: March 22, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
With both Debbie and Emily now posting on these threads, I firmly believe they have softened up the belligerent posts and nasty nasty nasty comments made by some of the Smiley Smilers.....which is all GOOD.  My ladies, keep posting and I'm speaking for all of us.   Dave
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2016 on: March 12, 2016, 12:04:12 PM
great post Andrew
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Rolling Stone Article on: February 11, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
Great post CD........
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Rolling Stone Article on: February 11, 2016, 03:04:52 PM
Well....from another angle.....folks the "Wilson" genes aren't the ones to be used for the next gene replacement surgery.  First lets focus on the Love's that we are aware of from BB's history.  Stan, Steve and Mike-----enough issues to fill up blogs until the next reunion in 2112.  Lets assume their mother (a Wilson) had no affairs and her husband fathered the 3 Love's mentioned above.  Geez, enough stuff over the last 40 to 50 years with these 3 alone that makes us all just scratch our heads.  Then we have Dennis, Brian and Carl.  Again making the same assumptions with Audrey/Murry as we did with Mike's parents.......again enough issues with these 3 to need a doctor to treat our scalp wounds from all the head scratching.  So what do we know about the next generation back ??  Mike's mom and Murry's parents.....any of them with issues ??   Back then in the 30's/40's   people were just put in the asylum....sadly

Mental health treatment of the tough diagnosis' (as we know with Brian) was basically non-existent in the 60's/70's/and 80's.  Yes all very sad.  But when you through in Money, Entitlement, Drugs,  Enablement, etc etc along with mental health all creates very bizarre behavior that gets lumped in as "mental illness".  Yes, I feel Mike is very passive/aggressive and I have felt this way for a long time listening and reading to all his interviews.  Good for him to acknowledge this in public.  In fact I applaud him !!  For all we know, this may be from the advice of a therapist......and NONE of our business.

I will read the article tomorrow on the plane from Seattle to SanFran and make my own judgement.  But I have to say, some of the things I've read that you Smiley Smilers have typed on the 4 pages of this also very sad      Making value judgements about Mike with no mental heath experience is just stunningly morbid....and I'm a Brianista
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: February 09, 2016, 09:35:33 PM

As the 70's wore on, did you ever meet Landy or any of his henchmen(women)  ??
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: February 03, 2016, 01:29:09 PM
This may not be the correct timing as far as Beach Boys history goes, but did you ever meet or have contact with Mr. Darro....?
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 31, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
Wow absolutely favorite Beach Boys song......and Rocky has his own version...who would have known.....I'm more than kind of curious to see what the Brits think tomorrow morning when they see your post.....GREAT job digging this up....For someone who has "heavy" fingers on a keyboard, I agree, not a bad set of pipes.
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 20, 2016, 10:53:21 AM
Emily, please take this as a compliment.....your a stud !!!   

One curious thought.  As a traveler to Spokane WA. many times a year to see my grandchildren, how in the world would the Spokesman Review (which is still the morning paper there) have gotten this story....Rather amazing I would think.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: NME Beach Boys Quiz on: January 15, 2016, 10:20:05 PM
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: December 10, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
amen Ontor..........oh Mods, this is going to go south very fast.....
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Talk About Awards For Love and Mercy on: December 01, 2015, 10:27:03 AM
   I truly wish the film and its actors/actresses/directors receive as many nominations/awards that can come their way.  In my own morbid way looking to the future, I relish this love for Brian RISE UP, just as.......Mikes book comes out over the next year trying to change Beach Boys history.  Sorry to all for my last comment as I'm NOT trying to hijack the thread.  By having the film industry cement Love and Mercy as a justifiable biopic of early Beach Boys history.  I feel IMO, this will help with all the garbage about to thrown into BW's back yard from the other side of the fence in about a years time.

   To the Mods, if you feel this post is undesirable....please delete.

75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce - Pre 2012 on: November 23, 2015, 02:23:10 PM
Sheriff, reference the set-list friction.  I SAW it firsthand prior to the C50 Cleveland Ohio show in middle of June 2012.  My wife bought us M&G/Sound check tickets for the show. Fantastic experience. After 7 or 8 songs Brian yelled over to Mike, lets do Marcella.  Mike responded "we" don't know Marcella.  Brian says, "Mike, my guys know Marcella". So...then everyone stops for a moment and the principals make their way, along with Totten, over to Brian's piano.  A lively discussion went on for a minute or so, not yelling, but it seemed opinionated to me with Mike saying a lot during that short time.  It wasn't a yelling match by any means and even being in the first row, I couldn't make out what was being said. But observed alot of tension. 

Also during the sound-check, Mike was on the phone ALOT when he wasn't part of a song being practiced. I thought this was strange at the time and have thought about it alot since, as I've read all the threads since the breakdown of C50.  No way of ever knowing but one just wonders if by June 2012, the breakup at the end was already in the cards.

One final event from the sound-check. Totten kept Al over at the end to practice the end to Help me Rhonda.  Somehow the previous night at the Cincinnati show, Al screwed up his ending and Scott wanted him to practice. A disagreement between the two occurred on how it should be played at the end. Finally Scott says to Al.  "Al, this is how we play it NOW" and he walked away.  Al stayed, practiced it a few times....took off his guitar....looked down at everyone and just shook his head and walked off.  Again in retrospect, it was just very sad to see in person knowing what we all know now.

I did get to shake Al's hand at the M&G.  Mike was very personable to my wife as we had the picture taken.  He also wanted to know at what show I had bought my Beach Boys hat.  Kind of strange in retrospect, but I think he knew could tell it was from an M&B tour. 

It was a great evening but looking back, did I see stuff that, now having 3+ years of reading these threads, that was the beginning of the end.

Reading that really rubs me the wrong way. It's ok for Brian's band (who made up most of the entire C50 band) to learn songs like Still Cruisin', Kokomo and Ballad of Ole' Betsy but Marcella shouldn't be played because Mike's two band members don't know it? Tough sh*t. Learn it. There were five surviving members of The Beach Boys on that tour and each and every one of them deserved to have a say in what songs should be performed. To have a reunion celebrating 50 years of music only to perform a greatest hits show (mostly consisting of a songs from 3 or 4 years) wouldn't have made sense and would have been a HUGE wasted opportunity.

No offense but who is Scott to tell Al how the end of Help Me Rhonda will be performed? He may have been the musical director but Al is a Beach Boy. He should show more respect for a Beach Boy. If the Beach Boy who sings the lead of that song wants to end it a certain way, then end it Al's way. Change your way of doing things for one tour. Then when the touring version of Mike's band goes back on the road, go back to how you end it. I just think that's absurd and it's a shame that fans who paid to sit in on that soundcheck had to witness crap like that. I would have been livid.

Lee, didn't mean to ruin your weekend.  With both touring groups so ensconced with their "own" ways on presenting the BB music, I do recognized the difficulty joining a mixture of the groups for C50.  You're so right that BW had five members from his band and ML had his two, yet Totten was the musical director for the tour.  No one knows how entitled and enabled ML made him during the negotiations just to get the tour off the ground.  I'm a big AJ fan but one can read a post a day about Al being forgetful and missing lines and cues during songs.  Who knows what really came down and in MANY ways, I'm sorry I saw it with my own eyes.  Just a ton of large ego, past excess baggage, and a lot of hurt feelings from over 50 years, for this large an endeavor to have been successful given the past dis-functionality of the within group.  We all wanted different, but Al really says it all in this interview saying Mike put the squash on the tour and its not happening again until east meets west.  Just all so sad because the fans want it, oh so bad !!!
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