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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: March 14, 2018, 10:34:58 PM
I'm guessing one of the main reasons for conflict comes from the fact Mike had been his own boss for 14 years from 1998-2012, having not to answer to anyone except maybe BRI from a corporate oversight perspective.  Vibes I got that day was anger and consternation from many angles.  Obviously had a tiff with Joe where things came down much differently that had been decided at those initial meetings.  Then came the agreement after the Melinda incident where he walked out, where he ran the concert shows and JT/BW finished the album.  He mentioned repeatedly that the 73 were cast in stone and there was an agreed upon  "end" to the tour. 

HJ, you mentioned  June 2012.  Funny, I was at a reunion show on 6/23/12 in Cleveland and I would say it was a very cold sound check that I saw as part of my meet n greet.  I posted previously that at the end of sound check, Scot held Al back to have him re-rehearse the ending to Help me Rhonda. Eventually saying to Al, this is how we do this now.   No talking between the principals at all during the sound

I go back to one of the truest posts I've ever read on this board......We were so lucky to have them for 73 shows.....with the bands total dysfunctional history, who would have bet it would have lasted that long.

ok, I didn't mean to derail this thread.  Its when I saw all of you tossing Joe Thomas's name as potentially part of the new album, I did chuckle....
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: March 13, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
HJ....The question asked Mike was about how the C50 tour got started from it's infancy.  Mike said there were a lot of meetings and was told  that he also could bring in material for the album.  I'm guessing his touring delayed his start and by the time he came on board for his initial sessions, it was apparent to him that Joe Thomas had basically decided on the majority of the C50 tracks.  Mike said he had initially met Joe back during the Stars and Stripes time period in the 90's.
Then came his phrase but this is when he said he had been lied to and JT was a pathological liar.  Guessing this made it easy for him to walk out on the reunion  when the tiff happened with Melinda during a recording session.....over auto tone wasn't it ??
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: March 12, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
Hearing of Joe Thomas's possible involvement on a new BW album project makes me chuckle.  I harken back 18 months to seeing Mike Love in Seattle during his book tour.  He answered a question regarding Joe Thomas which I will never forget.   "He's a pathological liar"    Whew........ 
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: March 11, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.

Just back from a three week trip and catching up.  I saw DC310 post and it did make me chuckle.  About three hours after he posted, I saw the matinee show of Mike and the band in Palm Desert.  Though in a classy venue (McCallum Hall), it was a typical boring show (ala casino) as NO ONE stood up for the entire show until the Fun Fun Fun encore.  Here's my thoughts and observations....

1.  I was in the balcony but the sound was awful.  I was about 40 feet from the sound guy and wanted to go over and ask "are you listening??"   Granted I'm always up front whether its a Brian or Mike show but this was awful.  In particular Bruce's mic was way off....during his Wendy solo, I thought he was going to break his neck with the violent turns to his stage right with his hands outstretched and tehn suddenly his voiced appears 10x louder.

2. My sense is Mike is doing a little less heavy lifting.  With JF doing his Darlin and Don't Worry Baby, Bruce doing Wendy, Christian did God Only Knows and Good Vibrations, and ST did his songs, my sense was Mike did a bit less than when I last saw him in Seattle in last year.  And they also had a second show to do later that evening so some of this makes sense.

3. Thankfully no Stamos !!

4. I was reading this blog but not posting on my trip.  I had read where there was speculation that Jeff was doing less falsetto due to voice issues.  Kirsch did it all from my vantage point.  Did Jeff double up with him at times....maybe some.   Earlier on this page, those in the know thought Randell was only back temporarily.  Just not sure what the plan is going forward.

5.  Everyone here on SmileySmile has their own opinion, but I feel Brian Eichelberger was a HUGE addition to this band.  I had a few PM's with a person in the group who felt the EXACT same way.  BE could do some falsetto but also handle his own level in the stack. I feel he will be sorely missed as the reviews.  Think about it everyone.....BE leaves and Mike adds 2 guys back to the group.  Something is now missing IMO.

6.  Christian voice is a lot like his dad's.  During his solo's (especially God Only Knows), his lower notes are very strong and he strains a bit as he goes up.  I guess it just tells us how good and beautiful Carl truly was singing this song.

7.  DC310 hit the head of the nail perfectly.  For the most part, the videos are horrendous....This McGrath guy obviously wants to be the next Stamos personality associated with the band.  Even the grey hairs all around were asking who this guy was......all kinda sad really. 

8.  I've always thought Mike truly didn't care for Dennis but they sing "Do You Wanna Dance" with Dennis' voice.  Basically substituting Carl's old God Only Knows lead (to Christian) and then does a Dennis voice-over.....Just seemed really strange to me.

9.  Again DC310 nails it.  God these new remakes are just AWFUL.  Do It Again is bad, but wait till you hear Sloop John B.  Either the sound was so way off it was unintelligible....OR....this remake has just butchered more ways than one a true Beach Boys classic.

10.   Noted no Jacquelyn Love dancing with her husband to Surfer Girl.....Maybe Palm Desert being close to Tahoe, she may have gone home which would be understandable to take some time off the road.

Yes I went....The tickets were free.  Given to me in the Men's Grill at a golf club 2 hours prior to the show.  After seeing what I felt was a great show  in Nov 2016....This was a true downer.....the remakes.....the sound energy in the venue.....oh well....concert 39 is history !!
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: February 18, 2018, 10:13:26 PM
HJ     great post (again).....I am focusing on your last two points.....

"Mike Love as a solo artist...Obviously should replace Apparently...or he did not shop around....because.....there was NO ONE to shop around to....

last paragraph.....Alas, why did Mike do all the remake/re-recordings (with the labels blessing) of all the Beach Boy favs last shop these new songs for commercials for the revenue flow into eternity.  Mike's not stupid.....

So....I say.....Brian....go back and re-record these songs over the top of Mikes.  Make your own re-recording of Getcha Back .etc... and go ahead and use your name "Brain Wilson" pushing for the revenue flow and lets see who wins this battle.   

I will admit I've had a few too many glasses of Chardonnay this evening but HJ's post really set me off.....Mike is becoming cagier as he sees his touring life coming to a close and he wants to keep the revenue flow for "his Love" family.....not the Wilson family....

So going forward after these guys are done touring.....Mike and Brian both "may" have revenue streams from actions they can take now......what about Carl's heirs and Al  from the point of view of BRI HuhHuh?

Deep down, my gut thinks Carl's sons have been able to make life easier for themselves current day (and I don't begrudge them one bit) post 1998, however with the supposed decision of backing Mike with the BB's naming rights.....down the road, revenue will drop off appreciably for both Carl's heirs and Al when the touring stops.....and then what.......Someone out there fill in what happens down the road ten years from now......
And HJ......great thought provoking post...and one last glass of Chard !!!
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Session work with Roy Wood on: January 04, 2018, 01:51:17 AM
Hey Jude....TOUCHE.....probably the best retorts I've READ on this blog, as to  the decline of the BW/JB Tour.  Who knows what went on behind the scenes but I'll never forget these Beck fans (with their JB albums to be signed) in total disbelief at the Akron Ohio concert when Jeff decided not to show up for the meet and greet.  So 3 years later in Seattle, the same young lady running the meet n greet in Akron  is running the Meet n Greet  in Seattle.  So I ask her, do you remember JB not showing up for the Meet n Greet  in Akron when JB decided not to show.   She laughed saying that was my WORST  night  EVER working for this tour. !!!!    Anyway.......this split was ugly behind the scenes, though that concert in Akron ended up being fantastic.  Professionals  are able to gloss over the issues and perform, which eventually led to JB playing Surf's Up (solo)...not much better in the BB cover world than this !!!!!!!!!  (even with BW 25 feet away doing the backing vocals)     ....Just maybe one of the best BB-ish concerts I've ever seen....
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pro Shot Beach Boys Concerts on: November 21, 2017, 10:35:29 AM
I tried to ask in one of the other threads if there was anyone that could capture it, because indeed the usual online tools to archive video from these sites did not work.

I figured it would be taken down pretty quickly. I thought it would have been a good tool to study Mike's current lineup. What I was able to watch was interesting and informative. As I mentioned in the other thread, I was surprised how low-energy the band was. Not surprising considering they do weeks of shows with barely a day off. It was one of my first extended chances to hear a non-YouTube-audience quality video of Eichenberger singing, and I was surprised how bland it sounded.
Any idea what venue the show was at HJ ?....guessing if it was an outdoor fair show, one can/could come away with that impression.  I will say I heard Mike's group last year in a smaller concert hall venue in Seattle and I felt that BE was the blend that has made the current group somewhat more comparable to listening to BW band in the same venue.  I guess what I'm saying is Scott has been given much more to work with having BE in the group.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: smile 2018 on: October 19, 2017, 10:32:53 PM
Brian will be touring as long as physically possible, because that's where the money is these days.

That's of course true, but it's not as if he's toured heavily every year. There have been some off years with very few dates (e.g. 2006, 2014, etc.). So there's more factors than just churning the shows out for money. Otherwise he'd be playing the Cleveland Rib Cook-Off every year like Mike.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       HJ you do make me chuckle.  Been dealing with aging parent issues (in their 90's) so I've been off the board for about a month and I am catching up on my  SS reading.  I still remember standing on asphalt on a August high humidity 95 degree day in Cleveland at the Rib cook-off (circa 98-ish) watching Mike and a band of no one I recognized blasting out BB oldies.  Not enough beer in Cleveburg to cool you down !!! 
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best End Tags on: June 25, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
Summer's gone! Cry
Oh Yeah....Summers Gone !!!! 
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Horder next door...... on: April 18, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
Well, sometimes it truly is being at the right place at the right time.  I live in Seattle having relocated from Cleveland back in 2014.  We have/had an old gent living next door. Over 70 and was VERY quiet and kept to himself.  A lot of other strange stuff observed over these 3 years.  Sadly he had a severe stroke 8 months ago and will spend the rest of his time in a rehab facility.  So......He has no friends or family and his realtor is now in charge of his affairs.  The guy has been hording for 50 years.  An estate company is now charged with disposing of all the stuff.....Bought my wife a set of Spaan cookware with the original receipts in the original boxes from 1982 !!  So lets get to the  8-track/tapes/cd collection/album !!

I helped the ladies carry the heavy stuff into and out of the house for the last month .  They had 5 rather large boxes of tapes and cds they sold to a Vegas corporation that makes markets in this stuff.  I say to them...."Any Beach Boys stuff" ?   The lady just laughed....anything from the 50's/60's/70's  from Les Paul to Little Richard to yes our favorite band.  The pointed me into the garage      15 boxes of albums....Now the guy did make one mistake as he pulled off the plastic wrapping, but all jacket covers are in PRISTINE shape.  I walked away with the following...... 

       1.   (3) Carl and the Passions  "So Tough" albums, and
       2.   BB's California Girls Double Play with BB's All Summer Long as the 2nd album
       3.   Best of BB's
       4.   Best of the BB's Vol 2.
       5.   Very Best of BB's Anthology  1963-1969
       6.   The BB's Fun Fun Fun Fun Double Play with Dance Dance Dance  as the 2nd album
       7.   Wild Honey
       8.   Friends
       9.   Endless Summer
     10.   15 Big Ones
     11.   Love You..........and for our friends across the pond
     12.   Stones   Let it Bleed

Folks, the ladies gave these to me for FREE for helping them out over the past month.  Now I get with the cellophane off, the collector value isn't what it could be but just having these in my possession makes my day !!    Any today is the "8-track" day.  I will post what I find
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: April 11, 2017, 10:21:14 AM
Got back from my Seattle trip, tried to look for a boardie here who asked me in PM if i was attending the show, nothing, but got to meet amazing people, from young hipsters to parents, which the later were very excited about by enjoyment of the show, i got lot of compliments over my "passion" during the performance, i guess i was very expressif during the songs haha!

What can i say, i was on a cloud! number one on my bucketlist, a dream come true

Sad Darian is mussin', but still, the most surreal experience, spiritual, takes the album to a wole other level, very technical, i love how they push the harmonies in it and extend some outros of songs, setlist was great, was surprised Night Was So Young was already dropped of already Sad but it's a win-win cause Wake & Add Some came back, add that to Feel Flows, which surprised many people i talked too (funny enough, while introducing that song Blondie said it was from So Tough, then realized he confused it while exchanging some words with some band members just said to correct himself "Surf's Up", leaving people to believe they'll play the song !!! i was in shock for seconds, before realizing he meant the album title hahaha)

Ziggy,  so sorry we didn't get to meet.  I actually had a severe 48hr bug and I missed the show.  My daughter and her husband were the crazies in the 5th row on the aisle.  Glad you enjoyed the show.  Dang, I wanted to hear Pet Sounds live 1 more time before my time comes !!

Nothing i can add much more than i guess what everyone that attends these tours don't already know, just that i was bummed out byt he merch: some okay sutff, but the coolest thing was by far the boomer jacket picking from the Pet Sounds colors, but 90 dollars??? if anyone knows where i can find that on the internet or wants to get ride of it, i'll be very interested

Also i got to meet the percussionist dude, sorry forgot the name at top of my head, the guy with the long blonde hair! he came out in the audience after the show was done and people were leaving, and he was rockin' a Smithereens shirt to wich i complimented him to, only to realized he only came by to say hi to some people from the audience he seemed to already know, so i let him be by just shooking his hand saying how amazing the show was.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: March 10, 2017, 08:04:18 AM
Bingo  +10
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My Beach Boys YouTube Channel on: February 21, 2017, 02:38:20 PM
Anyone notice Al's dig at the end of Come Go With Me ??   After introducing and crediting Ritchie Canata for his fine sax work at the end of the song.  He says  "And we finally have a sax player"    Dig towards Mike ?    It just caught my ear and made me think what happened over the next 5 to 10 years from 93 to 05.   Any other instances where any heard digs like this between members on stage ? 

Don't mean to derail this thread       Great production and great clarity       Hope the eyes in the sky leave this alone
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favorite Version of \ on: February 17, 2017, 08:45:42 PM
I have NEVER heard this      good stuff
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favorite Version of \ on: February 16, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
This is a great thread....I said on a thread a couple of years ago, I saw first hand how the many versions of Rhonda in concert caused issues the evening of the Cleveland stop of C50  mid June 2012.   As a birthday gift, my wife bought us Meet and Greet for the show.  During the sound check, at the end,  they specifically did Rhonda, which I thought was weird.  At the end of the song Al and Scott T. got into a bit of a rift over what Al did the previous evening in Cincy and Scott wanted to get it straighten it out for that evenings show.

It hurt watching Scott say "Al, this is how we do it now".  Scott walks off, Al puts down his guitar, slowly turns towards the 3 rows of fans, puts his arms out at length, shakes his head and slowly walks off. I can see where Al could have been in a groove/habit of doing old rifts where MB now maybe plays a different "version" where Al just wasn't up on...who knows.  I'm not up on the exact musical differences between all the versions but I can see in the C50 make-up of the band, old habits were probably very hard to break for some of the guys, including Brian and his bandmates.  Remember, Scott T. was the musical director for the tour and Mike in charge of the set-list.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 19 years ago today on: February 06, 2017, 08:55:01 PM
For many of us, this was the day "the music died".....
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: January 25, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This day in Beach Boys history on: January 24, 2017, 12:30:49 PM
Was it the Costa Mesa show or one of the others cited by Ian above,  that Brian wore the black leather pants on stage ??
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: January 24, 2017, 12:16:08 PM
Nice to see HJ.  Adding new shows at the back end is nice to see.  Its going to be a nice surprise for some fans....taking a few weeks off from the late May shows and off to Hawaii.  Maybe it leads to another tour to the far east ??     All good !!!
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike is kind of playing the inauguration.... on: January 24, 2017, 10:50:54 AM

That is Mike's wife Jackie next to our right looking at the photo
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are the Beach Boys 'Famous'? on: January 23, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
To be fair, I'm not sure I would recognize Bruce when he's wearing big boy pants.

To be very honest, at a recent M&B meet and greet.  I barely recognized Bruce. 
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike is kind of playing the inauguration.... on: January 21, 2017, 03:03:51 PM
So now that THE day has passed, I have a few questions for the forum.  All of these questions will get me back to BRI and were they involved at all in this weeks take on the MB shows.

1. When Mike plays a regular Beach Boys show, we all know these fall under the auspices of Mikes license with BRI and each principal gets their cut.  So...

2. I believe I have read here numerous times here that when Mike plays a private gig, he keeps "all" the revenue above his cost.  Thus BRI is not involved in these shows at all.  So...

3. Were both the FLA and TEXAS shows both private gigs where Mike didn't need BRI approval ??  Just a question because if Mike is out for #1 meaning $$$'s to the bottom line.  He does both these under the radar shows and quite possibly made ALOT more money than if it was a regular MB show  right ?  So...

4. He adroitly chooses not to play the inauguration due to public backlash or maybe he did have a concern about legacy (not sure about this) or maybe there actually was a BRI vote because it possibly would have been a violation of the licensing agreement.  Would this show also have been a private gig outside of BRI's normal channel ?

Looking for additional clarification on my comments and wondering if others feel the same way as I do that BRI was involved ?  I truly think Mike feels he is commander of the ship as much as it seemed he wanted to play for Trump.  Why didn't it happen?  I think Mike had these other shows lined up with or without BRI and BRI principals knowing.  I'm thinking Mike knew that 1/20 was going to be an issue on many levels, knowing this could cause issues with his BRI license, or that he actually lost the BRI vote, or he chose to go rogue and do these other quasi "non-Trump" shows.....and make more money...   Thoughts ?
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Short New Interview w/ Mike on ABC News Website on: January 18, 2017, 08:08:04 PM
Any B, I truly feel you hit the nail with your first swing.....PASSIVE AGGRESIVE.   Everyone take a minute and look up the medical definition (diagnosis) of this disorder....and then close your eyes......and think about Mikes continued behavior over the last 20 years.

At least (by SSmile accounts) Brian is medicated.  Just maybe someone else should be also....
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 30, 2016, 10:33:09 AM
Hey GF.....don't you think (or have a feel for) that Mike IS legally bound to BRI via the terms of the license ?   I'm guessing behind the scenes, a lot is being said within BRI and the 4 principals.  If Mike's legal team determines that he must get BRI approval to pass muster, then I believe this is the hold-up.  A 2-2 vote would be a negative right ??  Guessing he must need a 3-1 vote to be able to play.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 23, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
Been reading this thread, taking deep long breaths as I take it all in.  So what I've taken in so far...

1.  We have a poster telling us the 1/20 concert in No. Caroline has been cancelled.  Later poster says its been re-scheduled for 1/22.

2.  Media across the world is picking up the story.....Seems either the Guardian or Rolling Stone first reported it as the story seemed to swirl out of control  over the past 48 to 72 hours. 

3.  Mike's people say its being considered and Brian's people disavowing any involvement of Brian or Al.

4.  One or two (hundred) comments about the BB Brand and the effects of Mikes group showing up on the brand going forward.   I've always felt the threads that have talked about the license as some of the most informative, especially how its played out since 1998.   In this case, I feel the point being made about merchandise and merchandising has HUGE questions going forward.

5,  So what happens to the brand when people with bullhorns show up at each concert venue where Mike's playing.  People still may go to the show,  but just maybe won't lay out an extra 50 bucks for merchandise.  This could/will have a multiplier effect.  I'm not an expert, but merch at the show stays with Mike but merch off the BB's website stays with the 4 BRI principals ?  correct ??    please correct me if I'm incorrect. 

6.  Terms of the BRI license has been discussed forever here on the board.   Holder of license can NOT do anything in any shape or form to harm the brand.

&.  My gut thinks a special BRI board meeting is in order.  I don't know the mechanics of how this can happen (or maybe it has happened??)....and we'll see which way Carl's estate votes.  Hopefully the money made for a 1/20 inauguration show isn't enough to sway any negative votes.... yes sadly, capitalism at its finest.   Guessing a 2-2 vote...the show goes on....and if that's the case.....I want a bullhorn for XMAS
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