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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al’s New Christmas Song – “Sunshine to Snowflakes” on: Yesterday at 11:32:21 AM
Beat's the hell out of "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo"! The question that begs to be asked is will myKe luHv listen to it?? Huh?
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who was the most spiritual of the Beach Boys? on: December 14, 2017, 08:15:26 PM
I think Brian is a guy who, in his inspired musical moments, has reached towards the heavens, sometimes he's gotten there, other times he has come very close. But he also has an agitated side to him - agitation, I am guessing, born out of the inability to sustain those occasional heavenly moments.

There is a very potent element to this notion. Maybe it is as much a pressure to repeat those moments as it is an inability to sustain them, as in having the burden of expectation and anticipation that such "divine inspiration" to use a heavy term can just be called on demand and applied to whatever is the next project being undertaken. It's a burden which a lot of musical artists have fallen victim to and which has led to some devastating results when the pursuit of such inspiration combined with the pressure to replicate them as if they're ordering fast food from a menu becomes a hurdle that cannot be leapt over.

Brian is the guy who - 40 years after the fact - said to the effect of "how do you top Good Vibrations? You don't." Yet look at how many wanted him and expected him to do just that. Even in that 1976 TV special, McCartney is there at Brian's birthday celebration saying "Brian, when are you going to give us another Pet Sounds?"...then in the mid-90's you had a label asking for Pet Sounds part 2...and the whole nature of divine inspiration (or just everyday run-of-the-mill sparks of creative juice and inspiration) is that you can try methods to facilitate it, but the very nature of inspiration is random and filled with chance. You cannot order it off a menu.

And sometimes that inspiration creates something so personal, so unique, and so definitive and strong that being asked to replicate it on demand can be taken as an insult, and the expectations that such inspiring works will flow in succession can cause that agitation that can lead to either a radical shift in scope and design (as with Smiley Smile and Wild Honey, perhaps?) or a complete creative shut-down as has happened with any number of artists, authors, musicians, and the like.

This may be one reason why for me as a fan, I would selfishly love to see something else presented around "Smile", but when BWPS did come out it was done at exactly the right moment with the right people and it had the effect which was enough to say Ok, it's been done, let's move on to something else...and not try to recreate what was a truly unique experience in time.

Trying to recreate divine inspiration is a fool's errand, and expecting someone to recreate it is as destructive as it is naive.

And keep in mind this is the same Brian Wilson who has often said "Music is God's voice" and who considers music and the creation of music as a spiritual element and experience. The highest forms of that inspiration cannot be recreated on demand.

Good thread, in that it's impossible to answer - but I love the comment about attempting to create and recreate those magical/spiritual moments - and they are just moments that come when they do.

Brian one time tried to impress on me how much the "sense of longing" was important to his music.  Like everything else, I sort of got it, and get more of it at different times, and clearly Dennis knew it immediately, as noted in a post above.

Another moment was not long after Carl died (like GF in some of his previous posts, I probably noted this before somewhere), I mentioned that Carl was his "Angel Voice."  Brian's face lit up and he said, "yes, YES!"  Yeah, I hate when people try to paint Carl as a saint.  He was far too funny - but he gave spirituality quite a voice.

Al seems to really have gotten the connection to the earth and sky, and has remained a good man, connected to that energy, maintaining and voicing it.

Mike, I think, is doing the best he can with the Buddy/Murry heritage and temperament.  I applaud the fact that he tries, until $$ are involved.  I hope he can get past that in this lifetime, since he seems to believe in reincarnation.  Then he could be amazing in a future life.

Brian spoke so often in metaphors that I think he spends as much time as possible examining all aspects of spirituality and creativity.  Some things he said didn't give me that "aha" moment until decades later when it was in my face.  I'm not alone in that experience of him.

And let's not forget that doctors did a study in the late 2000's regarding what music actually healed people, including all genres.  "Whistle In" was the most effective.  Brian wrote it, all of them sang it, so...

Today?  Brian will enjoy his life and who he is (as he should) and if inspiration hits again, we'll hear it.

I once mentioned to a brilliant writer, after I'd studied many cultures, that Brian would have been a shaman in many of them: the psychological break/crisis, the creative brilliance and the healing ability.  He actually liked the idea before he was sidetracked by an overwhelming job.

If anyone can tell me what spirituality is, I'd appreciate the answer.  I think it's different for all of us.  We get different aspects of it at different times.  

Each guy was a part of the whole that is America's Band.  It's the creative version and the perfect reflection of the US in the late 20th/early 21st century, in all of it's contexts - the amazing, generous heights and the disturbing lows.  I'd throw in a little Marvin Gaye while I was at it, though, along with James Brown and Tina Turner.

Deb, the "Today" line about Brian hit me hard as did the inspired post as a whole. A beautiful look at the band indeed.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who was the most spiritual of the Beach Boys? on: December 13, 2017, 06:46:07 PM
Myke luHv is about as spiritual and deep as the plastic swimming pool with a palm tree I had for my first turtle which was 3" deep. All that TM crapola is a sideshow for him to run to and hide behind. Does anyone actually buy that façade when he dresses in robes, paints his face and eats that slop that my dog wouldn't look at let alone eat? And after all this play acting has the gonads to still call out Brian and Dennis about their drug use in each and every interview he does. The only god he really worships is The God Of Money which is his own personal deity of choice.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2017 copyright extension release details? on: December 08, 2017, 06:35:18 PM
Hope this doesn't hinder the sells of "Unleash The Love"!


 LOL LOL LOL LOL

The choice being similar to this:



Versus this:


LMAO!!   LOL LOL LOL LOL w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2017 copyright extension release details? on: December 08, 2017, 09:30:41 AM
Hope this doesn't hinder the sells of "Unleash The Love"!


 LOL LOL LOL LOL
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Top 3 Favorite Solo Albums on: December 06, 2017, 06:03:30 PM

BWPS
Gershwin
Imagination
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Help Light The National Christmas Tree WITH PROMO PHOTO on: December 05, 2017, 01:35:16 PM

Anyone notice his eyes looking buggy? Looks like all the botox in Paris is taking it's toll.  Shocked
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: December 05, 2017, 06:32:54 AM

Just checked the Billboard charts. That pile of dove dung is nowhere to be found.  LOL LOL LOL
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Beach Boys 2017 Tour on: December 04, 2017, 09:41:20 PM
ya know one thing for sure.. Mike Love ENJOYS his life.. And for a guy his age to work as hard as he does when he doesnt have to.. Amazing..  After CW died he was doin some funky gigs for awhile.. In 2000 a week before BW played 2 nites at the Hollywood bowl with 1st tour of Pet Sounds. BB played a park in Pasadena Ca where there was only a few hundred people there with lots of  empty seats.. I was there it was SAD... Now look where he is.. It"s obvious the media likes and supports Mike"s version of BB TODAY.. Im sure c50 helped also.. And it help"s he has rearrainged the band a number of times to what he has now.. the best version of BB band.. And the odd"s were against him.. We pick on him for using BB name.. WELL.. He is laughing all the way to the bank.. Gotta applaud the effort even tho we may disagree..
The best version of the BB band??? What in god's name are you talking about?? Are you saying that the M&B show is the best version of the BB's ever or it's the best that they can currently come up with? Please clarify.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Help Light The National Christmas Tree WITH PROMO PHOTO on: December 04, 2017, 11:36:16 AM
I honestly don't get Mike's obsession with touring....
Neither do I, SB. Perhaps it's a good thing in disguise. If it does ruin his voice, then I say double the amount of shows they do and it'll keep that hack outta the studio and no one will have to endure another garbage infested release by the lovester.  Roll Eyes
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday Dennis! on: December 04, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
Thanks, Dennis for asking Brian to write a song about surfin' and Happy Birthday to one cool dude.  w00t!
Cool Guy  Cool Guy  Cool Guy Happy Birthday to the cool guy indeed.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did the beach boys do better than the beatles? on: December 02, 2017, 07:58:31 PM
Ok gonna throw in another band now.. The Bee Gees

Off topic, but that picture of Dennis reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman (1984).
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Help Light The National Christmas Tree WITH PROMO PHOTO on: December 02, 2017, 06:50:39 PM
Stephen, that is the best description of Brian and Mike's views in recent years that I have ever read. Perfectly stated. While I understand Brian saying The BBs died with his brothers, I do consider Mike's band The Beach Boys. Because in my mind, The Beach Boys always had two entities- studio and tour. Because The Beach Boys most important member, BW, rarely toured in the grand scheme of the 56 years of The Beach Boys. Al left and came back, Carl left and came back, Bruce left and came back, Dave left and came back, Blondie & Ricky came and went. I see the studio Beach Boys as Brian, Mike, Carl, Dennis, Bruce, Al, David, Blondie, and Ricky. (In terms of C50, I was happy to consider the studio BBs to be Brian, Al, Bruce, Mike & Dave).

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is to have two Beach Boys (Mike and Bruce), as well as a kickass backing band, keeping the music alive- that qualifies as The Beach Boys to me. The Beach Boys touring band has always been evolving and changing. And to be honest, I'd rather see a Beach Boys 2017 show, than a late 70's show with stoned, drunk, and paranoid Wilsons.

Ok, with that last sentence, you've qualified yourself as a myKe and Br00th fanboy for sure and that's fine, but how many REAL BB shows did you see in the mid to late 70's, and how many of those shows were Carl or Dennis f***ed up? Of course, I'd rather see the Wilsons a bit wobbly over a fake tribute juke box myKe luHv and his posse show. I went to those shows and the Wilson brothers had more charisma just BEING THERE than M&B will ever hope to have. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did the beach boys do better than the beatles? on: December 02, 2017, 07:34:55 AM
Im a huge Beach Boys fan, but I think its unfair to compare ANY band to The Beatles.

There are bands Im a bigger fan of, but nobody compares. 
Say what??  Huh Huh
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Noel Gallagher hates Brian Wilson on: December 01, 2017, 07:37:40 PM
OSD is a good guy who is nice as hell in person! Smiley
Hug
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did the beach boys do better than the beatles? on: December 01, 2017, 07:29:05 PM

They didn't have Brian Wilson.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Noel Gallagher hates Brian Wilson on: November 30, 2017, 12:49:34 PM

If that SOB wants to go after anyone, why in the hell would it be Brian of all people? I could see him dumping on myKe luHv, but Brian??? Huh Huh Huh
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: On first seeing the back cover of Holland on: November 30, 2017, 08:16:48 AM
Brian in that picture looking like The Big Lebowski but the music on Mt. Vernon and Funky Pretty were enchanting to say the least.

19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 29, 2017, 06:44:59 AM
I bought a physical copy.

And I've been meaning to say, when looking through the liner notes there is a quite a bit of guitar playing credit for one Laurence Juber, former guitarist of Wings, most notably for their hit single "Goodnight Tonight" and the album Back to the Egg.

I'm surprised Mike hasn't been harping upon how awesome it is that he and Sir Paul have used the same guitarist.
Give the King of All Namedroppers time. And don't be surprised if he slides into the I helped write "Back In The USSR" fable.  Roll Eyes
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 27, 2017, 09:52:42 AM
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BTW, has this piece of fertilizer charted?


Seriously, though, does anyone know if this *thing* has charted yet?  Huh
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al being fired on: November 27, 2017, 08:27:10 AM

Had the pleasure of meeting Al several times and never once was he anything other than a great guy. I've told the story here before, but at after a show, I drove him and some friends to his hotel. On the way, we were all singing BB songs and I remember he thought my car was cool.

Such a cool story. Was the car an early 70s Camaro, as I seem to recall reading?

Good recall, CD! It was a Chev. Camero SS 396, silver with a black vinyl top. I've been fortunate to have had some collectibles over the years. One of my faves was a '52 Cev. Woody that I used to haul my drums to every gig.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al being fired on: November 27, 2017, 06:41:24 AM

Had the pleasure of meeting Al several times and never once was he anything other than a great guy. I've told the story here before, but at after a show, I drove him and some friends to his hotel. On the way, we were all singing BB songs and I remember he thought my car was cool.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 25, 2017, 09:56:41 AM
Billy needs a profile picture of him wearing a cowboy hat! Evil
LOL LOL  I want to see the whole shebang featuring cowboy boots, studded belt, and chaps all the while singing "Long Tall Texan".  Grin
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al being fired on: November 24, 2017, 06:23:57 PM
Mike seems to not like anybody.... Roll Eyes

In the grand scheme of all things myKe luHv  and his insidious plot to become King of Everything Beach Boys, with Carl and Dennis gone, he could swoop down with his claws of jealousy and conveniently carry on with the M&B circus act and dump Brian and Al along the road. But it didn't work because the hate for him multiplied many times over and that sad old codger can't, in any way, backpedal his way out of his self induced hell.  Evil
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 22, 2017, 06:27:44 PM
Glad to see OSD and I can rest on our laurels tonight....
Basking in the amazing Captainfantastic610 comment. My thoughts to the letter. BTW, has this piece of fertilizer charted?
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