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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why is Melinda Opposed to A Reunion?
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on: March 28, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
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One quick thing about Melinda and her feelings toward Mike Love....I believe Mike's big lawsuit about the lyrics/credits and getting his due was NOT personal against Brian. But, I don't think Melinda feels that way; I think she resents Mike because of it. I keep remembering that Larry King interview. Again, Melinda was upset over money....
Ummmmm... and whose decision was it not to settle with Mike out of court for a reported $750,000, but rather fight the case and end up loosing something like $5,000,000 (minimum) ? Another stunning example of the caliber of Brian's management. Without the benefit of hindsight, if I was in the shoes of Brian's camp, I would have done the exact thing. The evidence in Mike's case was not as strong as he would have you believe. Brian crumbling on the stand was the only thing that blew his defense and thus causing him to lose the case. Right, because nobody could see THAT coming.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Did Al Jardine Leave the BB's?
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on: March 24, 2009, 02:48:14 PM
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My recollection of the events as they unfolded, backed by the recollections of those close to the event, is that Al wasn't fired per se, but just chose not to carry on with Mike & Bruce (who, btw, were being billed as "America's Band featuring Mike Love of The Beach Boys" from April 9th (last show with Alan) until July 18th 1998, the day after he signed the so-called 'Love License' - the perception is that as America's band, they had trouble getting the crowds in). He stated in several interviews that without Carl, it was pointless calling themselves The Beach Boys.
This scenario would indeed appear to make the most sense...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Did Al Jardine Leave the BB's?
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on: March 24, 2009, 02:47:16 PM
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We know that Al was "fired" by Mike. However, we also know that Al was/is an equal partner in BRI with Mike, Brian (Melinda) and Carl (Jonah/Justyn). Logically, this would mean that to get Al "fired" from the touring group, Mike would have had to get the votes of both Melinda and Carl's sons. Did this in fact happen? If so, why? I think you have jumped to a scenario/conclusion that might not be correct. As the Licensor BRI hands the rights to the use of the "Beach Boys' trademark to the licensee, Mike Love. Mike then has sole power of hire & fire of staff and the licenor, BRI, has no say in it. I have not come across a licensing agreement where the licensor can control the licesee's power of hire & fire and how they manage the day to day running of the business - provided they are not in breach of the terms and conditions of the licence agreement. Obviously Mike was not in breach of the licence agreement because BRI (including Al as a shareholder) did not instigate termination of the licence agreement because of a breach of the terms & conditions. Right, should have said we "heard" he was fired, not we "know" he was fired.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Did Al Jardine Leave the BB's?
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on: March 24, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
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As far as I have seen, there has never been a complete answer given to this question. We know that Al was "fired" by Mike. However, we also know that Al was/is an equal partner in BRI with Mike, Brian (Melinda) and Carl (Jonah/Justin). Logically, this would mean that to get Al "fired" from the touring group, Mike would have had to get the votes of both Melinda and Carl's sons. Did this in fact happen? If so, why? A more plausible explanation would be that MIke and Al decided to go separate ways, with each vying for the right to use the Beach Boys name. We know that each was given a license to do so, but only Mike's was renewed (leading to the various legal actions), which was the likely a decision Melinda and Jonah/Justin made on a $ basis. If that is the true story, then the one question remains of how Mike was able to schedule the Jan. 98 Super Bowl performance without Al being invited, as we have heard that was Al's "first knowledge of being fired." The entire issue between Mike and Al had to do with who was in charge of promotion/production/business of the Beach Boys live concerts and the friction began in '95 or '96...Al wanted things to stay the same as they had been for decades, Mike had a plan to take over that aspect of the business and when he did Al dissented. Carl's death was not the reason Al left. The whole story is in the Dave Marks book. BTW...when Mike, Bruce and Dave played the '98 Super Bowl it was as America's Band I believe, and not the BB's...Al learned about it when he saw it on TV. Yes, I have read the book, and I found that section to be the most compelling (for instance, Al asking Dave "why are you here", when Dave returned to to the group during Carl's illness). And you're right , the super bowl group was billed as America's Band, I forgot that. Although I seem to recall the TV network actually referring to them as the Beach Boys. Still leaves the whole voting him out question unanswered, though. Thanks, Jon.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Did Al Jardine Leave the BB's?
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on: March 24, 2009, 08:30:39 AM
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As far as I have seen, there has never been a complete answer given to this question. We know that Al was "fired" by Mike. However, we also know that Al was/is an equal partner in BRI with Mike, Brian (Melinda) and Carl (Jonah/Justyn). Logically, this would mean that to get Al "fired" from the touring group, Mike would have had to get the votes of both Melinda and Carl's sons. Did this in fact happen? If so, why? A more plausible explanation would be that MIke and Al decided to go separate ways, with each vying for the right to use the Beach Boys name. We know that each was given a license to do so, but only Mike's was renewed (leading to the various legal actions), which was the likely a decision Melinda and Jonah/Justyn made on a $ basis. If that is the true story, then the one question remains of how Mike was able to schedule the Jan. 98 Super Bowl performance without Al being invited, as we have heard that was Al's "first knowledge of being fired."
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys & The Everly Bros: Don't Worry, Baby 1988
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on: March 18, 2009, 08:05:44 AM
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Here's another question: have the Beach Boys ever referenced The Everlys as being an inspiration to their tight harmonies?
I've seen a few interviews where Mike Love mentions "sitting in his car with Brian" or "walking home" from somewhere and singing/harmonizing to Everly Brothers' songs. Also, on The Beach Boys' 1989 TV series, Mike and I believe Brian discuss their fondness for The Everly Brothers. They sing a snippet of "Bird Dog" and the entire "All I Have To Do Is Dream". It's during the campfire sing-a-longs and Brian is really into it. On the Hawthorne CD, there's a little spoken intro (taken from an interview) from Mike Love where he discusses The Everly Brothers, then leads directly into "Devoted To You". It was on the "25 Years Together" TV special, Mike and Brian introducing the Everly's. They both stated (per David Leaf's script) that they (with Mike's sister) would walk home from church singing Everly Brothers songs. Or something like that.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / If You Could Ask Brian ONE Question...
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on: March 09, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
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With the couple of good recent interviews posted here recently, it got me thinking. If you had the chance to ask Brian one question and one question only, what would it be? I'll start:
"Brian, you have stated that when you write a song, you hear the different vocal parts in your mind. When you write a song today, do you still hear the voices of Mike, Carl, Al and Dennis in your mind, or do you just hear the various ranges?"
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Marks w/BB's 2008 singing Forever
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on: February 20, 2009, 01:26:02 PM
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I'll concur and say that Dave does sound fantastic... But I've heard boots of him sing it before so I knew that he does a good job... As far as I know that means 4 band members have sung Forever in concert (Dennis, Brian, Carl and Dave)... does anyone know if they are the only members to sing it live?
Not a memeber, but Stamos has of course done it live numerous times with the group
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Cool Brian/Don Was interview
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on: January 23, 2009, 04:12:30 PM
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I remember reading that when it first came out in 1995. It was in "Interview" magazine. It was a very exciting time for BB followers...Mike and Brian writing a new album...Don Was producing it...they were all in the studio. When I re-read the interview now, I just get sad...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brians Last Good Beach Boys Concert?
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on: January 06, 2009, 08:06:04 AM
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Brian did appear good at the Live Aid show. However, all you can really hear during his "leads" is Jeff Foskett. For one last great performance, I would nominate the Jan 1985 Reagan inaugural gala where the Boys did Their Hearts Were Full of Spring. Only one song, I know, but Brian absolutely nailed it. The look on Mike's face after Brian hit the falsetto is priceless.
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