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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 30 Years Ago today...
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on: January 23, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
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Back in the 70's Billy Joel spent a tour or two opening up for the Boys (as did Springsteen.) When Carl passed he some very kind things to say about him (to the tune of, whenever Carl Wilson was around, he always made sure you were treated first class, opening act or not) and dedicated "Only The Good Die Young" to him in concert at his first show after Carl's death.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 30 Years Ago today...
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on: January 23, 2018, 11:30:13 AM
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One of the more bizarre public meltdowns at an awards show I've ever seen.
At the time I was in the full flush of videotaping anything and everything about The Beach Boys from TV. I still have this stuff on VHS. Mike's speech got coverage from Entertainment Tonight (who also showed Dylan's retort) but shared space with the story of McCartney's no-show which, at the time, was the main story leading up to the HOF show. Mike's wackadoodle speech made Macca's diss a much smaller public spectacle after the fact. VH1 ran some highlights from the night superimposed on top of the beginnings of music videos from the inductees. When they played a Beach Boys video ("California Dreaming'" if I'm not mistaken) they just showed a clip of Brian's speech. They did the same later in the year at the beginning of the Kokomo video (it could've have been lost on them that Brian wasn't on the record).
Mike's inflammatory speech got more attention in the printed press. In one of the news accounts, Brian is said to have asked a reporter "Do we still have a career?" after Mike's meltdown.
No one talks about it now but I certainly remember there being a lot of noise about how the Beach Boys should not even be mentioned in the same breath as The Beatles and Bob Dylan leading up to the ceremony. Remember at this time Pet Sounds wasn't available on CD yet and the cult of Brian Wilson was just start beginning to seep into youth consciousness (and it was mainly focused on cassettes of "Smile" bootlegs). While I had been a Beach Boys fan as early as the Endless Summer compilation (I was 5), I didn't become a full-on Brian Wilson fanatic until July of 1988 and back then I felt like an outsider or part of some underground club (kids today have it easy!). It was certainly a year of ups and downs that's for sure.
I agree and remember this stuff too, only it was Carl who made the comment. But maybe you remember, there was more to it in terms of the actual event. Again, stuff that doesn't get remembered or reported as much as the speech, the McCartney no-show, etc. This was the event, which was still new at the time and only the third ceremony overall, when musical director Paul Shaffer actually tried to organize the jam session at the end of the night so it wasn't a free-for-all. Credit to Shaffer, he saw the potential of having all that talent under one roof, and tried to corral them into something tangible to make some music with each other, and pair up artists who would not have performed together as formally. The first jams were very loose and impromptu affairs...for this one, something bigger had to be done. Paul was going around to the musicians asking them what they would want to do musically. So Shaffer was going around to the artists in the room trying to get them to play some of their familiar songs, one unplanned example was he asked John Fogerty to play "Long Tall Sally" with Little Richard, but Richard had left...so Fogerty said well, if Richard isn't there I'll just do one of my own tunes...and he did a great Born On The Bayou with Nile Rodgers on guitar, and Nile was thrilled because he had been playing that song since it came out! And episodes like that went throughout the process...who would do what song, etc. Billy Joel was asked to do something by the Beatles, he said he'd do it if he could play Hammond B3 organ...Shaffer said sure thing, and Billy ended up doing a great version of I Saw Her Standing There on B3 with the other musicians. And Mick Jagger with George Harrison doing backing vocals. Ringo initially turned down the offer but was drumming on stage anyway. Julian Lennon did Stand By Me in tribute to his dad. Elton John (who inducted the Beach Boys) tore through some 50's rockers like Hound Dog, Les Paul played some lead guitar, Jeff Beck was there, etc. It was one of the better all-star jams despite some shaky songs due to the unrehearsed nature of the show. Since Dylan was being inducted, Shaffer wanted to end with Like A Rolling Stone. Springsteen was up there too by this point, and it was a stage full of great musicians. Here's where the initial point of this post comes in... Mick Jagger was there to induct The Beatles, and was in and out of the jam session, with not much to do as a frontman. So they're playing through Dylan's tune, and Jeff Beck on guitar started riffing on Satisfaction, unplanned. The band kicks in, and Jagger simply took over. He and Springsteen were sharing vocals and stage moves, and Jagger was basically putting on his stage show and owning it as he's done since the 60's. And THERE was the irony of Mike's speech, or one of several... He called Jagger "chickenshit" earlier, challenging him to get up on stage and do what presumably Mike and the BB's did in Mike's mind, and here was Jagger not only doing just that, but tearing the place up with his performance. Meanwhile the Beach Boys earlier in the night had tried to jam on "Barbara Ann", and the results were...well, maybe someone can find or post a video of that jam from that night, but it's pretty much fact that Jagger ended up blowing them off the stage, as did Billy Joel, Fogerty, and a number of others. Again, what isn't written about or remembered as much is that after Mike threw down the gauntlet and called out Jagger personally, Jagger took up the challenge and blew the BB's off that stage that same night. Was it in good fun, good spirits? Perhaps, but Jagger actually showed what he could do after being called 'chickenshit' while the BB's "Barbara Ann" from the same night is barely remembered or discussed. And not only that, but who is seen playing his famous tambourine and TRYING to share the mic with Jagger on "Satisfaction"...?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can
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on: January 09, 2018, 09:12:54 AM
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The UK version was already an improvement, and the vocals on the album are pretty good. I believe there's an album hidden in that train wreck. If I were Mike, I'd remix the damn thing, even if it had to be for my own money. Mike can afford it, and the label, whichever it was, ought to distribute it. But, Mike's a proud and stubborn fellow, "Looking Back With Love" is still missing on CD. Realistically, what would it cost to book a studio and a good drummer? That's all it takes. Wipe the old drum track and you're good. Who should he choose as drummer? Hal Blaine would be too old. Is he even alive? Mike and BRI have got nothing to lose. As it is, it is OOP and out of mind. They have all but dissociated themselves from it, it is an embarrassment to them. Stamos could do it. Stamos.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 50 is the new 20 for the Beach Boys?
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on: December 21, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
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Let's be honest; the BBs rarely looked *cool* on stage. There were a few brief moments in the late 60s and early 70s. By the late 70s they tended to look pretty goofy. Wind breaker jackets, sweat pants, sweat shirts, Hawaiian shirts with tanktops. "Knebworth 1980" was sadly a *good* day fashion-wise for them for that era. C50 was not too bad, but sometimes even then they kinda looked like tools when like two or three of the guys were all wearing the *same* shirt: Serious question. Was there some sort of endorsement deal with button down mens shirts for TWGMTR / C50. There seemed to be a lot of stripped and paisley shirts worn during that tour. And from the shows, videos, and pics I've seen, Brian seems to lean towards solid colored shirts when he plays. From what I remember reading, Mike's wife Jackie did the wardrobe for the tour. What that might have entailed, I have no idea. Did she just pick a bunch of shirts? Did she design the shirts? I have no idea. I think it was the Rolling Stone C50 article that mentioned she had posted "recommended wardrobe" combinations/choices for particular days based on something (numerology or something?). This is all accurate (including the daily suggestions. See Love, Mike wearing the same yellow shirt and accents on each Sunday of the tour) but per the official tour program, the wardrobe was by designer Robert Graham. Robertgraham.us
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine Solo Concert Series
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on: November 29, 2017, 08:34:08 AM
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Would love to see this, hopeful he adds some California dates. I will say that I was lucky enough to see Al's solo show at the Roxy (although he had a full band with him, including B. Hinsche and Matt) just before the C50 kickoff in 2012. Its not hyperbole to say it was one of the best BB related concerts I have ever seen
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al being fired
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on: November 27, 2017, 08:22:42 AM
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met Al several times, he has always been a complete gentleman and very generous with his time. Of course, the same can be said of each of the guys, except Bruce--who is, as many have mentioned previously, absolute Jekyll and Hyde. Literally 50% of the time I have met him he is the kindest guy you could meet, and will (unsolicited) regale you with Beach Boys history and insights. The other 50%? Don't even ask...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1995 studio footage. Brian, Mike and Paley
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on: November 17, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
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Boy, if only to know what that brief conversation between Mike Love and David Leaf was about...
That's what I was thinking too. Is it confirmed that Mike knew what Leaf looked like (for Mike to have been able to know who that guy sitting there in dark glasses was) at that point? Had they actually met in person before? Oh yeah. Leaf's book was first published in 1976, nearly 20 years earlier
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paley Sessions Discussion Thread
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on: November 05, 2017, 09:04:52 AM
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I don't know, it's subjective I guess. It just seemed uneasy to me, Brian as you sai d fragile from the recent Landry escape, talking repeatedly about how scared he was. I can see Carl realizing after a period of time that the situation wasn't the best. I'm completely speculating of course
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paley Sessions Discussion Thread
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on: November 04, 2017, 08:14:35 PM
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THAT was a fascinating video. To see Brian and Mike in that environment in 1995 was quite something. You wonder things like, what was going through Mike's mind as he sits there in the studio between Brian and...David Leaf. Too bad there was no footage of Carl. That may have also been the most excruciating interview of Brian I've ever seen. How many times did he say how afraid he was? This shows how difficult it must be for those guys to be together, with Brian feeling the pressure to deliver. Much easier now to see why that album collapsed
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