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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RS Article: How Jeffrey Foskett Went From Brian Wilson Fan to Beach Boys Insider on: December 09, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
God, poor Jeff. Didn't know about his cancer. Lets hope for the best
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian & Mike's new project on: September 22, 2019, 06:45:19 AM
Well, technically speaking, yes.
.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2tpNrGBh_6/?igshid=mdldzq56ea3n
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian as multi-instrumentalist on: July 07, 2019, 04:30:36 PM

 (the track descriptions are by one Scott McCaughey):


Scott McCaughey is a terrific musician in his own right, leader of the Young Fresh Fellows and The Minus Five. He also was an extra musician for REM both on record and tour during their last years. He's been working with Peter Buck in a myriad of projects since the 90s.

Check this song with a clear Love You influence
https://theminus5.bandcamp.com/track/thats-not-the-way-that-its-done

(from Down with Wilco - a Minus 5 album recorded with Wilco - he also plays on Jeff Tweedy's solo projects)


BTW, liner notes for 15 BIG Ones are by Dennis Diken of The Smithereens
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian postponing tour the day before it starts. on: June 06, 2019, 01:12:21 PM
I'm sad and frightened. I love the man and I wish him the best and more.
When it comes to back problems, I can't help but remember Prince and Tom Petty, and how dangerous these meds can be, specially if they happen to have interaction with Brian's meds for his mental illness. On the other side, I´m pretty sure that Brian is in a more controlled environment than them. But what worries me more is that dreared D-word, I remember Peter Falk slipped into it after going through some dental procedures (that's the kind of cases HeyJude was referring to)
Anyway, I'm hoping/wishing/praying for a temporary state brought by the aftermath of his last surgery.

BTW, anybody knows when Brian did have his last back surgery?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Blondie Chaplin - Mojo on: March 01, 2019, 06:45:50 AM
Blondie Chaplin appears on the Hello/Goodbye feature of the latest Mojo (Keith Richards on the cover)

Blondie Chaplin
&The Beach Boys


They called as he was taking tea
with his mum. But after a scuffle
with the manager at Madison
Square Garden, he was gone.

HELLO LATE 1971
I was playing with a group called The Flame.
In 1968, Al Jardine saw us at a club called
Blaises in Kensington. The Beach Boys were
looking for talent to sign to their label,
Brother, so he got Carl Wilson in and one
thing led to another and we signed. I didn’t
think too much of it, to be honest. It was nice
they took an interest in us, but we weren’t
from a very Beach Boy-orientated background,
we were playing a lot of R&B,Wilson
Pickett, Otis Redding kind of stuff, so itwas
really just meeting somebody well-known.
Musically it wasn’t a connection to anything
we’d been close to, back in South Africa.
A few years later, The Flame disbanded
and we all went back to South Africa. Iwas in
Durban, sitting with my mum, having a cup of
tea and listening to the radio. I got a call from
Jack Rieley, who was managing The Beach
Boys at the time, to hook up and come over to
Radio Luxembourg, to start working on a live
radio broadcast. So I travelled from Durban to
Johannesburg, to England and on to
Luxembourg. Radio Luxembourg was a big
radio station then. The first gig I playedwith
them, I played bass. We played Heroes And
Villains, and I had to learn the song with Carl
in a hotel room. After that they asked me to
[join, in February 1972. NB: some sources
date the Radio Lux show as May 10.]
It was strange coming from South Africa,
jumping into this West Coast kind of thing,
and getting adjusted to the Californian
lifestyle. You’re foreigners, you know, itwas a
bit of a shock. And we came from such
a different point of view, musically.
I wasn’t thinking in terms of that surf
stuff. But thenwhenwedid join, the
musicwas more experimental, it
moved it alongand took a different
turn,which [ex-Flames drummer and new
BeachBoy] Ricky Fataar and I liked.We
worked very well togetherwith Carl, I think,
andworkingwithDenniswas easier, andAl at
times. And a little bitwith Brian, because he
was inadifferentworldat that time, so to
speak. The other guys wereOK. To get
comfortable in thatmusical situation, and
those personalities…like any newband
or newadventure you get into, there are
always adjustments.

GOODBYE DEC 19, 1973

Ricky and I were included. We had some of
the songs on a couple of the albums [1972’s
Carl And The Passions – “So Tough” and 1973’s
Holland]. I don’t know,
you always feel that you
can do more. They were
in such an established
situation, it was a little
different for us, coming
in. I’m sure there was
some frustration, but I
can’t say it was an overall
frustrating situation.
We’d done a long hard
tour, quite gruelling, and
everybody was a little
burned out. We ended
up at Madison Square
Garden. It was a great
show, a very, very good
show. That night I got
into a scuffle with Mike
Love’s brother Steve Love,
whowas managing the
band, and I was so hurt and annoyed, I just
said, “f*** it.” AtMadison Square Garden,
that was it forme.
Whatwas the scuffle about? I don’t want
to get into that, into the details. I’ve already
said enough. Except to say it was completely
stupid, and not on my part!
I spoke to Ricky about it a little bit. We
were all disappointed. But there’s no point
hanging out with that kind of behaviour. I was
like, “I’m not going to go through suppression
in an organisation”, it felt like that. Some
people were like, “What, you’re leaving?!!”
But it was an easy decision for me.
I just didn’t show up for the next gig. That
was my way of quitting. Immediately
afterwards, I started writing some songs
and thought about recording
and getting some stuff out. It
was one of those things. You
just keep moving forward.
I don’t want to say that
everything in the whole thing
culminated in a negative, but
that’s how my involvement
ended. I still work with Brian and
Al right now. Brian likes me to
sing Sail On Sailor and I don’t
mind – it’s a classic, and I do
Wild Honey and some other
stuff. I have fun and keep going.
Holland just turned 46 years
old, so I’ve been doing it for
close to 50 years now! Ha! It’s a
long fucking time.

As told to Ian Harrison
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did Randy Newman's Debut Album Influence Brian or Dennis? on: August 25, 2018, 01:30:40 PM
Well, VDP was producing with Lenny Waronker, and the Wrecking Crew is there. Of course, a few years later Sail Away was a favourite of Brian and an influence on his mid-70s vocals.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / New Article on Uncut magazine on: August 20, 2018, 02:51:23 PM
As a (really forced) tie-in with the RPO album, latest Uncut (Hendrix on the cover) has a feature story on the Smiley Smile-to-Surf's Up period of LPs. All the survivors give quotes. Nothing revealing, of course (plus, some typos from the writer: Cabineseence recorded on BW's makeshift studio; The Big Ones 1976 LP)
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Peter Bagge’s “In Defense Of (And Praise For) Mike Love” on: March 25, 2018, 06:31:00 AM
Seems noboby's familiar with Petter Bagge's work. For the last 30 years, he's been one of the main artist working on independent comics. His HATE series is a must. And he's the author of a web series dedicated to Murry Wilson, Rock 'n' Roll Dad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVrydhy-YZ4
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 26, 2018, 10:47:20 AM

"Pieholden Suite" by Wilco
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 25, 2018, 12:22:38 PM
The Explorers Club:
The whole 1st album
Parts of the 2nd
Most of the 3rd (which includes another Darlin' groove)

Elvis Costello: the other side of summer

XTC:
Chalkhills and children
Books are burning (nothing obvious on the surface, but Andy Partridge came up with the chord progression after dissecting I get around)
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 25, 2018, 10:55:18 AM
Just a few:

Mr. Wilson - John Cale
Pale and precious - The Dukes Of Stratosphere (XTC)
At my most beautiful (R.E.M)
Brown shoes don't make it (Mothers Of Invention - a few bars parody The Beach Boys including a Little deuce coupe quote)
Mar de las Pampas - Super Ratones (Argentinean band. Released in 1998 and dedicated to Carl) https://youtu.be/36KfrecGNeA
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Interview on: February 18, 2018, 05:27:53 PM
As an Andy Kaufman fan, I can't believe the Bob Zmuda mention.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys session at Abbey Road 2018 on: February 18, 2018, 06:25:28 AM
So they're using the original BB vocals straight from the multitrack, a la Aretha... usually, the industry waits for the singers to be dead before attemping something like that. This is really the beginning of a new phase.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What was Brian listening to in 1968-73? on: January 21, 2018, 08:20:52 AM
I guess Brian found in "Bohemian Rhapsody" some echoes of "Good vibrations" i.e. different sections tied togheter, forcing the limits of the pop single. And both Brians (Wilson & May) are deep into harmony. So I can picture BW digging the unique work BM did building harmonies with his multitracked guitar.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Listen to on: January 11, 2018, 01:22:25 PM
My source is not CD or vinyl. But really, compression can't be the cause. It's also on the official BW channel for You Tube (excerpts from the track + Andy + Brian talking). Anyway, I still can't understand what happened.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most cringeworthy screenshot from any BBs music video? on: January 10, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Virtually every frame the group appears on "Summer of love"

By the way, last night I dreamt I was at Stamos' place and I asked him for an explation for the autotune on Do it Again and other productions crimes on Unleash The Love.

Might bring it to therapy this afternoon, I think.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The very last time certain instruments were played on BB tracks? on: January 10, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
Virtually every frame the group appears on "Summer of love"

By the way, last night I dreamt I was at Stamos' place and I asked him for an explation for the autotune on Do it Again and other productions crimes on Unleash The Love.

Might bring it to therapy this afternoon, I think.

(Edit: Oops, posted at the wrong thread!)
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Listen to \ on: January 09, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
I feel like I'm posting to the Steve Hoffman forum but... has anybody noticed that there's something very odd in the mastering of this song? Never noticed on the bootleg versions (of course,  not always on the best fidelity) On Playback it has too much high end, you can notice it in the trebely percussion. Can't believe that the percussion was badly miked on the tracking session or anything like that, but can't believe how they could issue this mastering work either.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sweet Insanity - prospects on: January 09, 2018, 09:15:51 AM
Sweet Insanity from 1991 is Brian's second SMiLE, all those versions floating around.

Is there even a remote possibility that Warner will eventually release the album in some form, perhaps a 2 CD deluxe?



I don't think Warner owns the master tapes. Besides Brian beign released from his contract with Sire, it's possible that the sessions were paid by Brain & Genius (maybe using an advance in royalites from Sire. If that was the case, they probably gave back the money to Sire. kinf of Reprise claiming back the dollars advanced for the release of Smile in the early 70s). B&G didn't exist as such way back in '88, thats one of the legal differences between the two albums.

If Brian had the sole rights to the Sweet Insanity recordings AND the interest in releasing them, he would have picked at least one song for inclusion on the Playback anthology, a la "Some sweet day" from the Paley sessions.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love you instruments? on: January 05, 2018, 06:21:27 AM
Piano, tack piano, organ, harpsichord, Moog bass, ARP String Ensemble, Mellotron - all played by Brian. Drums - sometimes played by Brian, sometimes played by Dennis. Electric guitar - played mostly by Carl, but also likely Ed Carter and Billy Hinsche. Horns and flutes - played by Steve Douglas and Jay Migliori. That's mostly it - along with a few miscellaneous items like chimes and accordion. That's for the new tracks - "Good Time" and "Ding Dang" were cut years earlier with more people.

EDIT - I added "organ" above, 'cause I'd forgotten to originally. Smiley

Is there a Mellotron? Or it is a Chamberlin? In any case, where? The accordion-like sound on I wanna pick you up?
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: GIOMH redux on: December 30, 2017, 01:19:51 PM
I found online an excerpt of a Scott Bennett interview done by AGD for Stomp re: TLOS. Pretty explanatory, I wonder if some fanzine did an interview with some of the band members about GIOMH...
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: GIOMH redux on: December 26, 2017, 06:24:50 PM
Yes, that's why DD has Foskett, Darian, Scott et al on backgrounds (I added this to my original post). And they also played it live even before (I think?) 2002. Of course, there's an instrumental take on the Paley tapes.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / GIOMH redux on: December 26, 2017, 05:47:35 PM
I've been thinking about bringing back this album as a topic for the last couple of months. Since another thread is covering Brian's work on L.A and other 70s stuff., I can't help but keep thinking how little we know about the sessions for this album.

What we know about GIOMH:

-Album released as part of the BWPS deal with Warner (BWPS to Nonesuch, GIOMH to Rhino)

-part of the title song backing track dates from the post-Imagination sessions with Joe Thomas (the same sessions, now I presume, were the songwriting genesis for some of the songs on TWGMTR and maybe NPP. How could we still be dancing definitely dates from that era)

-Most of the backing tracks for Soul Searchin' and Saturday Morning in the city come from the Paley sessions.

-The only new tune (as far as we know) is A friend like you.

-According to a Mark Linnett interview for Ear Candy, there were several more songs which eventually ended as outtakes.

-Desert Drive was recorded before the rest of the main album sessions, that's why Brian's band handle the background vocals.

What we assume (from the aural evidence):

at least at different moments, Brian was uninterested,  according to his vocals on You touched me (intro) or the slurring "Ever afterrrrrr" on Fairy Tale.


I still like the album, mind you, but I can't believe how little we know about it. I mean, everybody assumes that Brian didn't pick up the tracks (at least the ones who made the album), and some people have mentioned that his band built the backing tracks from Brian's piano demos.

Since all the press Brian did that year was directed to BWPS, there's almost no mention of the making of the album in print (even Peter Amis Carlin deals with it in one or two sentences).

I'm not writing this to start a reappraisal/discussion for the album, but to try to gather some hard facts about it.

Anybody got some extra info to share? Thanks

24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Have you ever heard a Beach Boys song in a different language? on: December 06, 2017, 10:56:58 AM
'Til I Die in Spanish

(live at the Pink House, Argentina's White House)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltctJ8QLgeI
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: December 01, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
Some stray notes from myself. I was listening to some Van Morrison when I decided to finally hear the whole 2 discs, starting with the 2nd disc: must be a masochist. I never write a professional review before at least three plays; this will not be the case since I don't see any reason to listen to that 2nd disc again, except in a forensic way.

Haven't listened to the bootleged Unleash The Love / Mike Love not War in 10000 years (pun intended). This version: nothing too embarassing and some really nice moments (Ram Raj, really, in spite of the silly "curry" tag), despite some poor judgement choices during mixing.

But the second record, oh, man...It's not only the ridiculous autotune (more subtle on disc 1), it's also that damn overcompression so pervasive in today's music (and, worringly, on today's remasters of classic records): EVERYTHING IS LOUDER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE.


If you bear in mind that one of the keys of Cal Girls beign a perfect production is Brian making Mike triplicate his voice, it's terribly cheap what Mike and his producer made on this remake. It's not even good old ADT, more like an obnoxious autotune trying to make you not notice the decay on Mike's voice. Even the background vocals at the coda have the autotune shrill. Do they really think that this  is gonna make them sell more records / get more airplay?

The RoboLove/RoboMcGrath/RoboStamos on DIA is a bloody disgrace. More than think he Mike is shooting his own foot, I find this an insult to Brian's work. (something that he's been doing at least since he remade Surfin for SIP)

IGA: Did someone -by someone I mean a professional musician/record maker with a sense of dignity, now I'm reading that Lloyd has a Grammy???- really OK'ed that lead vocal track?

Brian's back: despite the not-so-autentic feelings, this song always had for me some kind of charm. Of course, the best part always was was Carl's. But the lowered Cal Girls quote on the intro, just four tracks after starting the disc with that song? Gee, what a sense of pacing. Over gated/reverbered snare on the Spector-like drum beat, another production crime.

Darlín: K-Tel for the 21st century.

GV: I get embarassed with the popping and hissing in some of my bedroom recordings. But hey, they are not recorded/mixed on a professional enviroment. What's Lloyd's excuse for this excruciating intro?


Oh, by the way: Why no friggin Kokomo? Does he feel that he can improve over Brian's originals but the Melcher production of Kokomo is perfect as it is? (in a certain way he'd be right: Carl was by a mile the saving grace of that song)

Let's face it: The Beach Boys may be the band where the lead singer (ie: the one who doens't play any instrument) is the least atractive voice of the bunch (exception made of his baritone/bass parts on the harmony stack). Really, for the last 40 he has done very, very, few lead singing of value (All I wanna do might be his all-time peak) but he has a bunch of fine leads on disc one (Pisces brothers - but what about all that digital reverb on the backgrounds?). Sometimes he still pulls off a powerful bass (Daybreak over the ocean, but of course that wasn't a recent performance).  But one thing is  having to deal with than unpleasent, nasal voice, and other thing is the rest of production crimes perpetrated on this record. Add to this  the moral questions raised (that sticker, the malpractise he acussed Brimel of doing with the Mail on  Sunday cd, the atrocious autotune since badmouthing Brian for using it on NPP), and I can't help but remember Dennis' opinion of the MIU Album.

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