Landy's actions with regard to Brian are public record, thus his family could hardly have a problem with how he's (accurately) presented... and no, you don't need anyone's permission to portray them in a movie, or a book.

If this is the case, why in the movie "The Buddy Holly Story" could they not depict the real Crickets? I thought I had read that they had sold their rights or something for another movie already but I always wondered about this.

Jerry Allison and Joe B. Mauldin had signed their names away for an aborted film called "Not Fade Away".  The filmmakers changed their names to Jesse and Ray Bob to avoid legal action.  Jerry Allison even referred to "The Buddy Holly Story" as a "horrible movie", saying he didn't see anything that was right.  I'm a huge Buddy Holly fan and it's a good fictional account of his life.  Sadly, if you base everything you know about Buddy on the film, then you really don't know anything about Buddy Holly.  

I know it's not a factual telling of Buddy Holly but my question is why they couldn't use their names if they didn't need permission.

I knew what you were asking.  The filmmakers were also afraid that they may face legal action from Allison and Mauldin for the simple fact that the movie wasn't factual.  That's why I included the information about the movie not really being true.  They had given permission to Twentieth Century Fox for the "Not Fade Away" project.  It was actually supposed to be a fictional account of what happened on tours.  They weren't going to pass it off as "true" like with "The Buddy Holly Story".  Jerry Allison said that no one involved in "The Buddy Holly Story" knew the truth.  They weren't consulted, for whatever reasons.  From what I've read over the years, the primary source for the film was Maria Elena, Buddy's widow, who had known him for less than a year before he was killed.  So if the filmmakers were afraid of legal action from The Crickets, they obviously knew the film was fiction.  I do think that there was a law suit at one time, shortly after the movie came out.  Other than a mention of it in a Rolling Stone article in 1978, there isn't much information out there about it, which makes we wonder if the matter was settled out of court.

I read that there is an audio recording of God Only Knows from one of the August 1997 shows.  Mike is speaking about Carl before the song and Carl thanks his doctors and dedicates the song to them.  Does anyone have that?

I really liked their video of Sloop John B with Scott and John.  But THIS...wow.  Truly amazing.

Landy's actions with regard to Brian are public record, thus his family could hardly have a problem with how he's (accurately) presented... and no, you don't need anyone's permission to portray them in a movie, or a book.

If this is the case, why in the movie "The Buddy Holly Story" could they not depict the real Crickets? I thought I had read that they had sold their rights or something for another movie already but I always wondered about this.

Jerry Allison and Joe B. Mauldin had signed their names away for an aborted film called "Not Fade Away".  The filmmakers changed their names to Jesse and Ray Bob to avoid legal action.  Jerry Allison even referred to "The Buddy Holly Story" as a "horrible movie", saying he didn't see anything that was right.  I'm a huge Buddy Holly fan and it's a good fictional account of his life.  Sadly, if you base everything you know about Buddy on the film, then you really don't know anything about Buddy Holly. 

Thanks for the feedback.  Like I stated, I wasn't sure how that worked.  It definitely makes sense now.

To be blunt, it helped that Landy died in 2006. Once you've shuffled off this mortal coil, no need to worry about life rights.

Now, there is always the possibility that the living family of a deceased person could sue for defamation (as in, curiously, the case of the Arabian sheikh Auda Abu Tayi's family suing the producers of "Lawrence of Arabia"); but in the case of Landy, regardless of what you thought of the tone of the portrayal (a bit too hammy for my taste, but a small quibble), the filmmakers were careful to research the basic facts.

Evan Landy may think his father wasn't a monster, but he'd probably have a very hard time with convincing a judge that: Brian was not severely and improperly overmedicated, and that Landy did not make himself the benefactor of BW's will.

Point: if it's not libelous, there's no case.

A dead person cannot be libeled or slandered.

This also explains why Evan and the others had inconsequential roles, mostly unnamed. And, Alexandra is nowhere to be found.

Landy's actions with regard to Brian are public record, thus his family could hardly have a problem with how he's (accurately) presented... and no, you don't need anyone's permission to portray them in a movie, or a book.

Thanks. With it being public record, that does make sense.  I was always under the impression that you did have to give permission for something like that.

After watching "Love & Mercy", I began to wonder about something.  The movie didn't exactly show Dr. Landy in a positive light.  I'm sure the filmmakers had to have permission from someone in Landy's family to have his name and likeness in the movie, right?  My fear would be a lawsuit if they made the film with Landy's character and didn't have permission granted from someone.  Can anyone shed any light on how this was done?  Did someone give them permission or did they just take a chance?

According to BoxOfficeMojo LOVE & MERCY will be in 572 theaters starting today, June 12th.  Up from 480.

Is there an updated list?  To my knowledge, it is still not playing ANYWHERE in my state.

It's Dennis.

Thanks.  I thought it might be but I wanted to be sure.

Who sings the lines "Girls do the hula.  Boys will all sing" on the recording of "Luau".  I know it isn't Mike or Brian.  The voice just doesn't sound familiar.  Of they were all pretty young when they recorded this.

There's a video on YouTube of Christian singing God Only Knows.  While it's not Carl, he sounded really, really good.

Carl was so missed on C50. I still find it hard to accept anyone else singing the songs he sang on tour. I saw a lot of BB's shows in the 80's/90's, and Carl was always the highlight. Al's moments in the spotlight were nice, too.

The hardest thing for ANYONE to do is to have to sing Carl's part(s) in ANY Beach Boys' songs...even the ones where he only sang backup and harmony parts in the intricate arrangements.  NOBODY can do it.  He's just that much greater than ANY fill-in.  (Sorry Brian...Jeff...everybody else)

Carl is SO missed every single day.  There is one section in Daybreak Over the Ocean where someone almost gets 'it'.  I did a double take when I heard it 'for the first time' the other day.  Never noticed it before.

Studio trickery?

It's just not quite the same or as good without him...regardless.

That was Mike's son Christian who can sound eerily close to Carl.

I'm going to see Mike and Bruce when they come to my hometown of Charleston, WV on June 29.  I got free tickets through the local radio station that I work part time for.  My goal is to get the chance to meet Mike and Bruce.  The promoter told our sales rep that Meet and Greet passes were only available through the purchase of a VIP package.  However, I've searched online and haven't seen any mention of VIP packages for this show.  Is that the only possible way to meet them?

If you listen to enough live audio and video recordings, pretty much all of them had occasional off times. I would say Al and Carl the least (and I guess Bruce to the degree he's audible), though.

If you watch something kind of dreadful like the Australia 1978 video, Al is kind of the only guy holding the whole thing together vocally. Jon Stebbins' "The Real Beach Boy" points this out as well.

But yeah, Carl sounded great even in late 1997. There was a brief local TV news report posted awhile back that had little bits of Carl from that 1997 tour as well, and he sounded great there too.

That clip is on youtube.  It's from the June 21st show in Boston.

Did Carl or Al ever sound off key?  Those guys have been the two most consistently great singers in the band over the years.

Some of the live vocals from the others have been pretty poor at times. Even right to the end Carl was 'The Voice'.

I think Al sounds as good in 2015 as he did in 1965.

http://andrewhickeywriter.tumblr.com/post/70675455024/today-would-have-been-carl-wilsons-birthday-this

This might be the one you're looking for.

Thanks!  This sounds like the one from Concord, CA on August 2, which I already have.  I believe there is one from near the end of August that was discussed and posted in these forums back around 2007. 

Carl still sounded amazing, though.

I am hoping someone may be able to help me.  I read an old topic, from 2007 I believe, regarding Carl's last live performance.  Someone posted a link to an audio file from that show, or one of Carl's last shows in late August 1997, of God Only Knows.  Of course, that download link is no longer available.  Can someone help me locate that audio clip?  I have a recording of God Only Knows from the August 2 show in Concord.  I'm trying to find something after that, later in the month.  Thanks!

Would love to hear (experience) that one too.  The great Carl Wilson – how I wish he was still with us today.  He would only be 68, a mere whippersnapper compared to his brothers and all but one bandmate.  Can you imagine what C50 would have been like with Carl Wilson there?

I know the recording exists because it was posted on here at one time.  Would love to find someone who has it.

I am hoping someone may be able to help me.  I read an old topic, from 2007 I believe, regarding Carl's last live performance.  Someone posted a link to an audio file from that show, or one of Carl's last shows in late August 1997, of God Only Knows.  Of course, that download link is no longer available.  Can someone help me locate that audio clip?  I have a recording of God Only Knows from the August 2 show in Concord.  I'm trying to find something after that, later in the month.  Thanks!

I hope something surfaces soon.  There are full or near full concerts available from pretty much every other Beach Boys era except this one, and Carl's last tour (at least not that I'm aware of).

That said, I've heard legend of a tape or tapes of a full show from '73 that exists which was recorded (audio and video) on a venue house system, board sound with multi-camera angles...but I do not know if the tape is viable or could be successfully transferred to digital. Obviously this would be a Holy Grail kind of experience if it ever surfaced intact.

If true, that would be great!  I think the sound of the band during this period was amazing.  Not to say that they didn't always sound amazing.  This is just my favorite live era of the Beach Boys.

I would just love find a full live version of the band performing "Sail On Sailor" with Blondie.  It's my favorite Beach  Boys song.  All I've seen, like I mentioned in my original post, was the short clip in the Endless Harmony documentary.  I was just hoping that someone knew about some existing footage that I was unaware of.

Hello everyone.  I'm new to the board.  I have a question and hopefully some of you can provide me with an answer.

Is there any full concert footage of the Beach Boys performing between 1972 - 1974?  I know there is the video from a show in England of the band performing "Do It Again", "Wild Honey", and "Help Me, Rhonda".  I know there is a clip in the Endless Harmony documentary of the band performing "Sail On Sailor" live.  I would love to know if anyone has seen that full performance, at least of "Sail On Sailor", or if it even exists. 

Many thanks!