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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Here She Comes - Most popular song on CATP on: December 10, 2022, 12:09:18 PM

Nice! I like this, sounds a bit funkier than the studio version somehow. Thanks for the link!



I was hoping that a live version would be included in the box set.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases on: December 10, 2022, 08:25:13 AM
In 2023, I would love to see a release when includes a lot of live material, including a live version of River Song, as well the original studio recording/demo.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Here She Comes - Most popular song on CATP on: December 10, 2022, 08:22:06 AM
I love Here She Comes!  One of my favorites!
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set on: December 10, 2022, 07:31:06 AM
The only thing about this box set is the guitar solo on Don't Worry Bill.   It sounds awful compared to the bootleg version and the version that was on the Endless Harmony CD. Should have let it be.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So Tough/ Holland (Box?) Set on: May 18, 2022, 10:42:16 AM
I am hoping for live versions of "Here She Comes" and "River Song".  Also, a better quality version of the "River Song" demo would be cool, too.  I'm looking forward to any of the Ricky/Blondie material.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 31, 2021, 06:22:11 AM
Just curious...

Why are Marcella and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone included?  Weren't they recorded in 1972?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Help Me Rhonda In Concert question on: August 25, 2021, 09:25:37 AM
Thank you!!!  This answers several questions that I had.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Help Me Rhonda In Concert question on: August 21, 2021, 07:44:52 AM
Greeting!

I have a question regarding the live version of "Help Me Rhonda" from the In Concert album.

Does anyone know who played the guitar solo?  It doesn't sound like Carl.  I was thinking Blondie or Ed, but Ed may have been playing bass.

Video from the Crystal Park concert in June 1972 shows Blondie on guitar and Ed on bass.  The version from the "In Concert" was recorded in September 1973 I believe.  There is a solo in the version at Crystal Park.  By process of elimination, it appears to be Blondie.  Carl, Al, Blondie and Billy are playing guitar.  During the solo, it shows Carl, Al and Billy.  They all appear to be playing rhythm guitar.

I'm just wondering if it was Blondie on the "In Concert" album, too.

Thanks!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: January 15, 2020, 07:02:21 AM
Looking forward to any live material.

I really hope the 72-73 era will be covered as well some day. They were such a great live act back then.

Mark Linett has said that a box for In Concert is a possibiltiy


I hope it includes River Song, Here She Comes, and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Ricky Fataar on: December 13, 2019, 07:37:38 AM
I've seen a few photos of Ricky playing rhythm guitar and steel guitar onstage with The Beach Boys. One of the former was in a late '70s issue of Hit Parader.

Thanks for the heads up!  So it was an issue well after he left the band?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 10, 2019, 01:32:48 PM
I know it's still a few years away, but I would love to get a "In Concert" box set with a bunch of unreleased live tracks from 72-73 including "River Song", "Here She Comes", "Surf's Up", and "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone".
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Beach Boys songbooks? on: November 25, 2019, 07:20:55 AM
I never do see many Beach Boys songbooks, just the same old greatest hits. Have to settle for tabs online.

Right.  It's usually the same 10-15 songs.   I'd love to find tabs for the more obscure cuts like "Here She Comes", "We Got Love", "Hold On Dear Brother"...and even Dennis' "River Song".
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Beach Boys songbooks? on: November 22, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Or one monster one that covers everything. There are some truly mental chords in some of the songs and even the more popular ones haven't been tabbed out that well.

Not helped by the fact that if you watch live videos of them playing then Carl and Al quite often didn't play what seemed to be on the record anyway

What would really be cool is to have the entire "In Concert" album tabbed out!
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Beach Boys songbooks? on: November 20, 2019, 05:35:24 PM
I know this may be a long shot, but have there ever been songbooks released for the So Tough and Holland albums?  I've found them for Sunflower, Surf's Up, and 15 Big Ones, but not the two that I really want.  Just wondering if they have ever been available.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 20, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
There were a set of photos taken by a fellow named Ed Primm that were taken at a concert in Raleigh, NC on 6/13/97.  There are several good shots of Carl, but I've never seen these photos surface online and I don't know how to get in touch with the photographer.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 15, 2019, 10:41:06 AM

I didn't think he looked bad at all in that picture.  He looked far better than he did in the picture above, which was taken 10 days before his last concert.  I really wish we had a date on the Schilling photo.  The caption in ESQ only said 1997.  So I don't know if it was before or after the above picture.

I don't recall the potential date, but my impression based on far off memory is that someone framed it as likely the last extant photo of Carl, which I took to mean would be post-August 1997 (where the last concert photos come from). I also recall Jerry Schilling relating some stories of regularly visiting/being with Carl during his final days/weeks/months, so I assumed the picture came from after Carl got off the road (for what was hoped at the time to be a temporary hiatus).

Details of Carl's life in general, and certainly this time frame, are pretty sketchy. I absolutely respect his and his family's clear desire to not delve into a lot of details of his private life. But there are also fans and scholars that aren't looking for salacious or scandalous details in trying to know more about this (or any) time frame.

Little bits are revealed in the Billy Hinsche documentary on Carl, which is, not surprisingly, not particularly revelatory about Carl despite having several hours of reminiscences of various family members and colleagues. But a few tidbits are discussed there.

I actually purchased the Carl DVD from Billy a few days ago.  Haven't received it yet, but looking forward to it.  Have you seen the Dennis DVD?  I'm thinking about getting it too.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Ricky Fataar on: November 14, 2019, 04:54:04 PM

Or maybe sitar?

That would be cool, too!

I have seen a photo of him playing flute, but that was from his days with The Flames.  All of the concert photos I've during his time with the Beach Boys, they've all been him drumming.
I saw him play steel guitar. And, I believe, flute, on the Sloop John B intro.
Very talented guy. What's he doing these days?

He's been the drummer in Bonnie Raitt's band since the 90's.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Ricky Fataar on: November 14, 2019, 02:27:18 PM

Or maybe sitar?

That would be cool, too!

I have seen a photo of him playing flute, but that was from his days with The Flames.  All of the concert photos I've seen during his time with the Beach Boys, they've all been him drumming.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 14, 2019, 02:25:26 PM

And many folks, even close to the end, can sometimes look surprisingly pretty good. I've heard the stories of Carl at Audree's funeral (which would have been December 1997 I believe) looking stunningly in pretty good shape and many people were stunned at his quick demise because he had looked so good less than two months earlier.

This makes me think of my aunt who battled cancer.  Christmas 2015 she looked well.  You wouldn't know she was sick by looking at her.  Just over 3 months later, she was gone.

Circling back to that late 1997 photo of Carl wearing the baseball cap with Jerry Schilling, as I mentioned in an older post, someone sent it to me years ago but I can't find it anymore. What I remember is that on whatever forum was the active forum all those years ago, a few folks mentioned how shocking it was and how bad Carl looked, etc. When I finally saw the photo, I thought he looked okay. He's smiling (which is more than I can say for most of the extant 1997 pics).

Hope someone can dig that photo up and post it.

I didn't think he looked bad at all in that picture.  He looked far better than he did in the picture above, which was taken 10 days before his last concert.  I really wish we had a date on the Schilling photo.  The caption in ESQ only said 1997.  So I don't know if it was before or after the above picture.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 14, 2019, 12:23:31 PM
I notice that Carl is standing so it's likely he is singing "God Only Knows".  The first time I ever saw this picture, I didn't believe it was Carl.  I believe his change in appearance was due to the steroids he was taking at the time.  I know Carl found out he was sick in late 1996 or early 1997.  Does anyone know when it was announced publicly?

This is the 1997 book photo mentioned a few times in the thread



From 'The Beach Boys in Concert'
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 13, 2019, 05:09:01 AM


There was one pic of Carl post-touring, either late 1997 or early 1998, published one time in ESQ. Someone sent it to me years ago but I can't find it anymore. It's not online anywhere, and a big hubbub was made years ago when someone offered to scan it, based on how they only got permission to publish the pic for that one-time use in that issue.



Are you referring to the photo of Carl and Jerry Schilling with Carl wearing a Cubs hat?
i had seen that photo, but did not know it was from that late in Carl's life.

It was in ESQ and dated 1997.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 12, 2019, 03:35:18 PM


There was one pic of Carl post-touring, either late 1997 or early 1998, published one time in ESQ. Someone sent it to me years ago but I can't find it anymore. It's not online anywhere, and a big hubbub was made years ago when someone offered to scan it, based on how they only got permission to publish the pic for that one-time use in that issue.



Are you referring to the photo of Carl and Jerry Schilling with Carl wearing a Cubs hat?
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pro Shot Beach Boys Concerts on: November 12, 2019, 07:06:01 AM
Anyone know what the deal is with the August 1972 concert in Boston?  If it was pro shot, why hasn't it been released?  I don't know if I have ever seen footage from it.  Looking at the set list, I would love to see that show in its entirety.

I seriously doubt it was pro-shot in its entirety - more likely, a little bit of footage was shot for the local TV news.

That's extremely unfortunate.  I would love to see a pro shot concert from this time period that is complete.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pro Shot Beach Boys Concerts on: November 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
Anyone know what the deal is with the August 1972 concert in Boston?  If it was pro shot, why hasn't it been released?  I don't know if I have ever seen footage from it.  Looking at the set list, I would love to see that show in its entirety.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Any footage/photos of Carl's final gigs? on: November 08, 2019, 05:18:03 PM
In my book with Jon-the beach boys in concert there is a very late photo of Carl in the brief chapter on 1997

I think that photo was from August 19, 1997 at the Rosemont Horizon.
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