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13051  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 06, 2006, 03:57:09 PM
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Looks like the same handwriting to me, just bigger for effect.

The structure of all the letters is totally different. Different writing.

I also have always wondered what was written in the parts that are blacked out; were the black-out originally, or after the fact?

Something I've wondered about, that we will never know...

Suppose he DID commit suicide, and had a friend help him to make it look like he was murdered, so Frances (and maybe Courtney,too) could still get the insurance money (in addition to his estate)?

We will never know.
13052  Smiley Smile Stuff / Brian Wilson Solo Albums / Re: What I Really Want For Christmas on: April 06, 2006, 03:22:41 PM
Actually, I would've loved it if he would've tried the spoken bit on CoW these days....  LOL
13053  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love in the Histroy of Rock on: April 06, 2006, 03:14:40 PM
This same thing was posted when this board was on comiclist. Talk about deja vu all over again...
13054  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Curt Boettcher on: April 06, 2006, 03:13:20 PM
Curt also worked with Love (Mike, not Courtney) on Looking Back with Love.
13055  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Eugene Landy, psychologist who treated Brian Wilson, dies at 71 on: April 06, 2006, 03:09:02 PM
That's what I was thinking too. Looks like 1983 or 1984. In '87, Brian was BONY.
13056  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 06, 2006, 02:55:41 PM
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Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your altar.
Please keep going Courtney, for Frances.
For her life, which will be so much happier without me.

I love you, I love you!

Notice how the above is in completely different handwriting?

Shortly after I got the idea for this topic, I heard on the news that yesterday was the 12 year anniversary of Cobain's death. 12 years...wow.
13057  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Picture of your moderators (and friends) on: April 06, 2006, 02:53:04 PM
I'm the cop! Called it!!!!  Smokin
13058  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 05:58:33 PM
Let it also be said that if you read what I posted above, I personally think Kurt died by accidental overdose; yes, it was the shotgun blast that actually killed him, but he would've died anyway due to the heroin. So I guess you can call that "death due to gross negligence covered up by murder".

Something like that, anyway.
13059  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 05:37:06 PM
The problems I have with the suicide theory...and these are all *fact*, not speculation or conspiracy theories (I'm leaving those out of this for the moment)

1) Cobain's blood morphine level was over 1.5 per liter; no possible way for him to shoot himself after that. He would have been incapacitated. That level of purity for a shot of smack...no way. Considering he was, in fact, an addict...he would've metabolized the heroin quicker. That means he had to have been given quite a large dose.
2) He weighed about 110-115 pounds, making that level of morphine even more toxic.
3) There was a can of root beer present that was tested and showed to contain Valium.
4) The part I mentioned earlier about the "suicide letter" not actually being such, except at the end....and that showed an entirely different handwriting.
5) Why were there no prints on the shotgun, OR on the pen used to write the note mentioned above? No way Cobain could've smudged his own prints off.

That's just for starters.

NOW for the conjecture time...

My own personal theory is that he was shooting up with someone, and that person gave him a lethal dose of heroin, and then made it look like Kurt shot himself.  Why? Maybe the person (whomever it was) had just bought a bad batch of sh*t, panicked, then tried to cover their tracks. OR it could've been someone whom he p*ssed off. When you start dealing with actual pushers,as opposed to just some guy next door you buy a dime bag of weed from, you're playing an entirely different game.


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Let it be said,though, that I do NOT believe Tom Grant's theories about a conspiracy to kill Kurt involving Courtney Love. I'll get into those later.
13060  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 05:12:19 PM
D'oh!

13061  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 05:01:43 PM
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13062  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 05:01:03 PM
In case anyone is wondering, this post was supposed to be first, but I buggered up the splitting of the topic.
 Anyway,  I had just finished a book devoted to the subject, "Love and Death", written by Max Wallace and Ian Halperin, a few days ago .
13063  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kurt Cobain: Murdered? on: April 05, 2006, 04:59:50 PM
I don't think it was Courtney. I personally think it was either a music industry person ( the so-called suicide note was actually a *retirement* letter, with the only parts relating to suicide coming in at the end in an entirely different handwriting) or ,more likely, a former drug contact. C.Love may have had some *knowledge* that it was going to happen, but as far as her being involved....don't think so.
13064  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Eugene Landy, psychologist who treated Brian Wilson, dies at 71 on: April 05, 2006, 04:53:29 PM
Landy. As odd as it may seem, there are pictures of Landy with horribly bleached hair, looking like the guy from Def Leppard does now.
13065  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: April 05, 2006, 04:41:56 PM
During IGA, he squatted  down and looked like he was dropping a turd.
13066  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Eugene Landy, psychologist who treated Brian Wilson, dies at 71 on: April 05, 2006, 04:39:11 PM
All of them, plus Audree.
13067  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: L.A.- Lake Arrowhead revisited on: April 05, 2006, 03:02:45 PM
He refers to Mark Linnett as his manager?

And he didn't know that he was playing in St Louis?

Umm....
13068  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: I'm Banned from The Smile Shop- AGAIN! on: April 05, 2006, 03:00:34 PM
I think he's been hitting the brown acid again...
13069  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: April 05, 2006, 02:59:38 PM
That screaming is killing my ears. No wonder Brian quit touring back then; his good ear had to be killing him...
13070  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Peter Ames Carlin's Landy obit on: April 05, 2006, 02:50:59 PM
Okay, I agree that enough time has passed. Here we go...

Landy redrafted Brian's will, right? Supposedly, he forged Brian's signature,right? Main benficiary:Landy. That by itself doesn't really mean too much...until you add in the fact that the medication Brian was on was causing seizures and blackouts. Landy *knew* the meds were taking a toll on Brian's health. Repeat:he KNEW. And *then* changes Brian's will to make himself the sole heir, completely cutting out everyone else?! Now, what does that sound like to you?
13071  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: I'm Banned from The Smile Shop- AGAIN! on: April 05, 2006, 07:03:42 AM
Charles,
 I do, too. In fact, when I get off from work, I'm going to make a thread about it.
13072  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: I'm Banned from The Smile Shop- AGAIN! on: April 05, 2006, 12:31:46 AM
What...the....hell  Huh
13073  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Peter Ames Carlin's Landy obit on: April 04, 2006, 09:47:59 PM
I read about this a LONG time ago. I don't remember exactly who said it, but it was in a discussion about whether or not SI would ever get official release. Don't quote me, but I *think* it was either AGD or Brad Elliot. It's been several years, but I'm 99.9% certain.

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Found this on Andrew's site


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   The recording of the follow-up to the critically-acclaimed but commercially mediocre Brian Wilson began almost as soon as the dust had settled from that release. This time round, the good Doctor Landy decreed that Brian would produce his own album - under his direction, of course. That Sire completely rejected the product that was turned in was hardly surprising, for with Landy's hand on the tiller, the album - tentatively titled Brian - was something of a dog's dinner, the few worthwhile compositions swamped under an inept production. Smarting from this rebuke, Landy prevailed upon Brian to revise the tapes, now retitled with outstanding sensitivity and tact, Sweet Insanity. The result, despite a campaign by Landy that included the mailing out of the dreadful "Smart Girls" rap as a promo cassette and promising journalists access to Brian in return for a positive review of the album (and astonishingly, some took the bait), was a scarcely improved product that was once more rejected. Shortly thereafter, Landy and Brian were legally separated and no more was heard of the project. the 2004 release of Brian's Gettin' In Over My Head saw the release - in newly recorded form - of the following songs: "Make A Wish", "Rainbow Eyes", "Save The Day" (with new lyrics,  retitled "Fairy Tale") and "Let's Stick Together" (new lyrics, retitled "The Waltz").
Possibility of release: None, for two reasons: one, it's plain bad product…  and two, according to Brian, the master tapes have been stolen.
13074  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Eugene Landy, psychologist who treated Brian Wilson, dies at 71 on: April 04, 2006, 04:55:32 PM
Only one I can find so far.


13075  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Peter Ames Carlin's Landy obit on: April 04, 2006, 04:43:51 PM
The masters for SI were stolen.
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