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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson singing
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on: May 11, 2007, 09:59:31 AM
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Actually the original Here Today is gone now. There was a cough on all pre 1990 releases that is mixed out. That is OK but some of the compression effects on the vocals are missing too. That just made me sad. I just realized that means I've never heard the "real" Here Today and likely never will.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread
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on: May 08, 2007, 07:35:44 PM
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COMMENT TO JAYMIE'S DAD: Speaking of Loop, who is the barker at the beginning ("Hurry, hurry, hurry")? Do you know? ~swd Wasn't that you? I think I remembered you saying something about having sung on several BB songs, buried way in the mix. Or I could be thinking of someone else, I dunno. I think this was on Susan's board.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread
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on: May 08, 2007, 04:05:20 PM
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COMMENT TO JOE: I'd like to know what you meant by what you said. Billy is another person who can write first hand accountings. Is that what you meant? My perspective is going to be different. Actually I did not see Billy much in the studio, only on the road. Hell of a musician. Beautiful person. Joe was referring to me, as I had answered the question for you. -Billy Castillo
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread
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on: May 08, 2007, 10:50:41 AM
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I think that is Brian. His falsetto was "whinier" than Al's. Compare the vocal on that to Loop De Loop. They do sound similar but Brian does have a very distinct tone to his voice that is unmistakeable.
I'll definitely be buying this edition...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 gigs & sessions
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on: May 05, 2007, 06:15:10 PM
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It was definitely written during the Imagination sessions, although I wouldn't be surprised if parts dated from earlier than that. Listen to the middle part of the song (the reprise of the opening,only with instruments)...that production style (read:Muzak) sounds like pure Joe Thomas.
I don't think the "original" version has ever been booted, but I do recall reading the title somewhere after Imagination's release. Maybe it was written in the period after its release but before Thomas left the scene.
Andrew...?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 gigs & sessions
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on: May 05, 2007, 05:47:54 PM
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I'm just skimming the booklet, and some of the, er, claims are just outstanding. This may be the most blatant:
""A Friend Like You" was written by Brian after he and Paul McCartney had spent time together at the Landmine Benefit, and backstage and on stage at the Queen's Jubilee... Brian wrote this song out of his feelings for his friend"
There's a man at the door called Steve Kalinich who might have something to say about that.
As for the musician credits, I can only think of one reason why the following are included:
Greg Leisz (guitar) Michael Rhodes (bass) Joe Thomas (keyboards)
And finally, there's only the most oblique of hints that "Desert Drive" is from the aborted Oceanway fall 2002 sessions.
What aborted Oceanway sessions? This is news to me. Never heard of them... As for the musician credits, I can only think of one reason why the following are included:
Greg Leisz (guitar) Michael Rhodes (bass) Joe Thomas (keyboards) Along with the unmentioned Eddie Bayers, it's the Imagination crew!Now if *that* is not a dead give-away on old tracks being used, then I don't know *what* is. BTW...are you sure that the opening track also wasn't an older track, at least in parts? I ask because it was written during the Imagination sessions, and as far as I know it was one of the few outtakes from that album. I wonder if by admitting they used tracks from earlier sessions, they would've had to give co-producer credits to Andy Paley and Joe Thomas? Seems they were real keen on having this be a "Brian Wilson production". On the same note, Carl's vocal on "Soul Searchin'" was from a Don Was co-produced session, but Don Was wasn't given any kind of credit that I recall. Also, Gary Usher deserves some credit for "So Long" being turned into "You Touched Me". Or blame, I dunno.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Andrew G. Doe's book
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on: May 03, 2007, 06:13:42 PM
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Some of the ComGuides are outstanding (the Pink Floyd one springs to mind), whilst others are dire (notably the Queen and Doors efforts). On the whole, it's a good series. Interesting note: the author of the volume on Madonna is a noted Beach Boys fan,and managed to make several comparisons to Brian Wilson...but in a pro Brian, anti-Madonna way. I.E. him saying to listen to Pet Sounds as an "antidote" to her 1987 remix album.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Be With Me
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on: April 30, 2007, 01:08:10 PM
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Aegir, you have a point....but I'm not scared of Phil Spector. He looks like a dork that we used to give wedgies to in High School...especially now with that stupid wig he has.
Charlie Manson on the other hand, he scares the Hell out of me. Charlie has a swastika tatooed on his forehead. He looks like Difference is Manson's in prison for life. Spector will get away with murder (literally) just like OJ SImpson, Robert Blake, and really just about any celebrity on trial.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Be With Me
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on: April 28, 2007, 06:28:44 AM
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Manson sang it like an old Chicago blues song. Very diffferent and less spooky really. That's rather funny to me. That should've been a marketing gimmick. "Forget the Beatles...the Beach Boys are spookier than Manson"! Or not.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Phil Spector trashes Brian Wilson
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on: April 28, 2007, 06:22:34 AM
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Ac tually I thought it was 1991. Someone should ask Ringo! due to the fact that his sound doesnt transfer as well to cd and the digital age in general, as well as the brian wilson sound does That could be it. I've never heard anything on 45. I was reading a quote from Brian where he said something like hearing cds of some of his favorite music wasn't as good as the original 45s because, in his words, they "sound squished like sh*t".
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