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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: July 23, 2017, 11:46:19 PM
I did notice that...in fact my daughter asked if it was originally part of H&V .
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Bedroom Karaoke on: July 23, 2017, 11:16:22 PM
Just for fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vqDKMHIipk
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / The Righteous One is Back, yo on: July 23, 2017, 10:36:21 PM

Sorry about the lighting. Language is a bit strong in parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8dEtNly9uY
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: RIP Chester Bennington? ! on: July 20, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
Confirmation received.  Body found this morning apparently happened overnight. 
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / RIP Chester Bennington? ! on: July 20, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
Just received word that Chester Bennington from Linkin Park has passed away. Details are scarce but apparently it was a suicide. 

f***.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
You're right.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 03:14:30 PM
Here's another point...Mike is pretty much doing the same thing he accused Brian of with that lawsuit in 2005. Maybe the favor should be returned since Mike has been "shamelessly misappropriat[ing] Brian's songs, likeness and the Beach Boys trademark".

*drops mic*
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 02:08:10 PM
Seriously, you'd want to take the touring license away for this? 

I have to ask, do you think Mike Love deserves to tour under the name "The Beach Boys" (not to mention promote solo work under that name) despite the fact that he froze Brian and Al out of the band after C50? Ergo, does it seem fair to you that he could basically "quit the band" in 2012 so he could go back and then for all intents and purposes be the band on his own? That to me is just inherently shitty behavior.

In all honesty, I believe the name The Beach Boys should have been retired when Carl passed away.  Or even amended to something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" (as is pretty common with many British Invasion bands).  And, frankly, I'd feel the same way if Al Jardine or Brian Wilson were the sole members. 

But, legally, he has the right to tour as The Beach Boys.  And I think it's fair that he can't release new material as "The Beach Boys."  The live arena and the studio are two different things.  There was a touring version of Thin Lizzy well after Lynott died, but they decided to change the name when they went back into the studio. 

So, if I could pay to see The Yardbirds with only Chris Dreja and Jim McCarty, I'm fine with seeing The Beach Boys with Mike and Bruce. 



To use that analogy, this is like Dreja remaking  Heart Full of Soul with a new band and Treat Williams in the background going "Heart full heart full"

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Not trying to argue, just to put out my own viewpoint.

That's all well and good, but if Dreja did that, as Dreja, and did it with Treat Williams at a one time event with The Yardbirds, I don't see the harm. 

One time, yeah. Thing is, Mike's been making these type of decisions for many, many years. This isn't a one-off.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
Seriously, you'd want to take the touring license away for this?  

I have to ask, do you think Mike Love deserves to tour under the name "The Beach Boys" (not to mention promote solo work under that name) despite the fact that he froze Brian and Al out of the band after C50? Ergo, does it seem fair to you that he could basically "quit the band" in 2012 so he could go back and then for all intents and purposes be the band on his own? That to me is just inherently shitty behavior.

In all honesty, I believe the name The Beach Boys should have been retired when Carl passed away.  Or even amended to something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" (as is pretty common with many British Invasion bands).  And, frankly, I'd feel the same way if Al Jardine or Brian Wilson were the sole members.  

But, legally, he has the right to tour as The Beach Boys.  And I think it's fair that he can't release new material as "The Beach Boys."  The live arena and the studio are two different things.  There was a touring version of Thin Lizzy well after Lynott died, but they decided to change the name when they went back into the studio.  

So, if I could pay to see The Yardbirds with only Chris Dreja and Jim McCarty, I'm fine with seeing The Beach Boys with Mike and Bruce.  



To use that analogy, this is like Dreja remaking  Heart Full of Soul with a new band and Treat Williams in the background going "Heart full heart full"

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Not trying to argue, just to put out my own viewpoint.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 01:21:09 PM
In the US, the brand was damaged many many years ago for reasons that are too numerous to list. The issue is, at this point, Mike's poor decision making is just piling on to it. I mean, WE get it. We know how enormously talented each and every member of the band is and was. We know that they are one of the greatest (IMHO THE greatest) bands in history. The general public, sadly, doesn't get that. They think of the BB as a band who ceased to be relevant 50 years ago, or just some group that made fun-in-the-sun songs before the Beatles came in. Worse, there's a segment of the population that looks at them as pure cheese, a novelty act, that is along the lines of Sha Na Na. Things like this just add to it.  People shouldn't have to be ashamed to admit they are Beach Boys fans, but thanks to the past,  dunno, 30 years, many are.

Thanks Michael. Thanks Stamos. f*** you very much from the bottom of my heart

11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Something I think we need to realize vis--vis Mike and the band's name... on: July 19, 2017, 12:10:55 PM
Absence makes the heart grow fonder
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 19, 2017, 01:35:32 AM
Sums it up in a nutshell quite nicely
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's re-recordings on: July 19, 2017, 01:12:29 AM
That made Imagination sound like death metal
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: July 18, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
For me, I just love being in Brian's presence.  He could do a tour based on the Fetty Wap songbook and I'd be happy.

That said...I want a new studio album, like, yesterday.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 18, 2017, 09:47:38 PM
Here's my perspective: when I usually talk to new people about The Beach Boys I hear one of two things; one, awesome 60s music. Two, laughter about Full House. The latter has happened to me many times in the last decade. And I wish I was joking.

That's my perspective of the legacy. Thus far we have a solo cover that clearly no one likes that was performed by The Beach Boys on national live television across America on one of America's most celebrated holidays. Of course this one lone performance and music video are almost forgetful on their own, but where does it end? I think that's the point people are trying to make.

I mean, rubbersoul, you yourself are talking about booing a Beach Boys concert if that song is played. Let that sink in...you are willing to boo one of your favorite bands over this one song. Imagine when more autotuned/guest artist covers like this come out and they're possibly performed on live television again...how many people will turn off their televisions, change the channel? Will people in that crowd boo too?

Point being, it could turn into another well remembered Full House era, which is why people are miffed about this. Posters like KDS can complain on other forums about those of us worried about the legacy, but frankly given where Mike has steered this band in the past (and how at least one of those moments has latched onto the legacy), I think any worry is well warranted.

EXACTLY
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Do It Again 2017 Promo FIlm on: July 18, 2017, 07:00:18 PM
So basically Mike is now just like those cheap ass K-Tel cover tapes where it has something like THE BEATLES in all caps and "Songs originally recorded by" in teeny-tiny print so small that a mosquito will have to squint to see it. Nice. For those people who say this doesn't harm the band's legacy, you're right...the legacy was ruined years ago by choices like this. What he is ruining is any chance of rebuilding it.

Way to protect that brand!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: July 16, 2017, 02:25:49 PM
Joe Thomas wasn't that involved with NPP past a certain point...I doubt he'd be involved much if at all on any new sessions. 
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Loves Sax on: July 14, 2017, 10:50:11 AM
He's a real sax machine!
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Does this ever happen to you? on: July 12, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
"I never thought a guy could cry, till you mated with another guy"  LOL

LOL
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Does this ever happen to you? on: July 11, 2017, 05:17:10 PM
Not only in my mind, but I usually tend to sing "pretty things like insects and flowers".

Me too!
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What does Mike want? on: July 11, 2017, 05:16:28 PM
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And I say that all due respect to Mike's input, which on occasion I absolutely LOVE on songs like Please Let Me Wonder and Kiss Me, Baby. Nobody should belittle the legit great contributions that Mike gave to the band, no matter how much Mike might bug the hell out of us. He cowrote some stellar material; that's the truth. He just continues to undo any chance of people being able to simply appreciate that great material by acting so foolishly so much of the time, and straw-grabbing for credit on WIBN (thus calling into question how much he *actually* contributed to other songs, since if he's gonna make a BS claim on that song, it very unfortunately naturally has to make one wonder about others).

Very well stated
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Ask the Moderators on: July 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM
Any time!
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Single on: July 07, 2017, 11:46:46 PM
Brian put thought into his collaborations and either co-wrote with his "guest stars" and/or hand-picked vocalists for specific songs much in the same way he did back in the BB days.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this part...

It's true, though.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Single on: July 06, 2017, 05:33:03 PM
Mike wishes he had something as good as an album of chipmunk darts in 2017, if this garbage is anything to go by.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Single on: July 06, 2017, 12:10:38 PM
"And the children know the way, their song is love"- BW was onto something in surf's up! Cool Guy

LOL
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