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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Yesterday happened with Beach Boys music? on: July 16, 2019, 06:14:28 AM
LOL
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Yesterday happened with Beach Boys music? on: July 15, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
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And then does Terry Melcher attain massive success and get introduced to Manson via Denny?

Yikes...didn't think about that
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Yesterday happened with Beach Boys music? on: July 15, 2019, 09:41:52 AM
The BB's career pretty much is a giant "what if"
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sweet Mountain (1974) on: July 13, 2019, 04:20:05 PM
Good point
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sweet Mountain (1974) on: July 12, 2019, 11:42:18 PM
Iíve never understood why that is
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys references on new Panic! At The Disco track, on: July 11, 2019, 10:12:51 AM
Sorry for bumping an old thread ( the mods will be pissed...oh wait)  but I just heard this song for the first time as my daughter is HUGE fan of the band. Pretty tight song.... Iím digging it
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: July 11, 2019, 09:33:49 AM
I should probably do a redux of a Smiley member picture thread. Thinking about it
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sweet Mountain (1974) on: July 10, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
Too bad Big Sur had already been out at that point because the outtake version wouldíve fit very well in this lineup
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 10, 2019, 07:46:17 PM
Thatís also true!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 10, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Some times it was Rob, sometimes it was Dean . Scott did the vocal melody and harmonic  arrangements .


Hereís a great example of what Scotty brought to the band. The following was s track the DeLeo brothers did with their side band Talk Show

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHrgIXpQac


Not that great especially the vocals.

Now here is the rewritten version with Scott


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eNk-JnRwihU


Scott played a very little bit of guitar but other than the riff of Tumble in the Rough writing on guitar was not his forte. He didnít really play an instrument on his solo projects apart from drums, but he hummed and sang with his collaborators.


Very cool. I liked Talk Show, but Scott had that presence and one of those force of nature type voices that could elevate a song. I feel the same about another tragic loss we had (too damn many, right? ) with Chris Cornell: When you hear the Audioslave songs, it's a terrific rhythm section, tight as all hell as expected with the RATM guys and making some great songs, but Chris' vocals made those tracks soar beyond the songs themselves. It's like Scott with STP, Chester, Morrison, Mercury, etc...the list goes on.

I compare it to The Doors, where Morrison was such a powerful force, when he's gone it's hard to overcome that in terms of plugging in another 1/4 of a tight band to try replacing the loss...because you can't. And that's the sad part in some cases because the other 3/4ths of the band is still there and doing what they do best, but that key element is gone.

In terms of The Beach Boys, what they had going for them was multiple lead singers. If a member wasn't available at a given time, they still had at least 4 (or more at times) lead voices to carry the tunes. Contrary to some revisionism, there was never a sole lead singer or lead voice in the band, and that was always their strength. But like some fans are with The Doors without Morrison, it's hard to go beyond the full classic lineup and get the same gut reaction they had hearing the classic lineup with all voices present under that name.

Agreed on all counts.

And you know the saying "the whole is more than the sum of the parts"? Well, with the Beach Boys, those parts were better than most bands's wholes.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
Some times it was Rob, sometimes it was Dean . Scott did the vocal melody and harmonic  arrangements .


Hereís a great example of what Scotty brought to the band. The following was s track the DeLeo brothers did with their side band Talk Show

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHrgIXpQac


Not that great especially the vocals.

Now here is the rewritten version with Scott


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eNk-JnRwihU


Scott played a very little bit of guitar but other than the riff of Tumble in the Rough writing on guitar was not his forte. He didnít really play an instrument on his solo projects apart from drums, but he hummed and sang with his collaborators.

And to bring this even more back on topic....playing on his 2008 solo album just so happened to be one Probyn Gregory
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett's on: July 09, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
That'd be ace
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 06:17:43 PM
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If the remaining three Doors had cut a record better than their best with Jim, I doubt the masses would be able to get past the "But there's no Jim" tag no matter how good they'd be. That is impossible to overcome in most cases.

There was a *great* performance they did with the late Scott Weiland (4 years later and I still am not used to typing that Sad  ) that honestly had to potential to lead to something if not for Scott's demons
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
Thanks for the info!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 03:02:47 PM
Come to think of it...did Carl write any solo songs? I think he might be the only band member who doesn't have any credited solo tracks solo or with the band aside from Blondie & Ricky
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 02:50:08 PM
Agreed. The closest was Rubbersoul's post but even then that was based on Mike's own words. BE's post even admitted he was asking an honest question
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 02:12:35 PM
Is it really necessary to make snide comments about thinking that Mike doesn't know how to write a song?!? Give the man a fucking break. He's been in the music business for nearly 60 years. Let's see you guys try to write a number 1 song. You're all making him out to be a damn drooling idiot that can't put two and two together.

Honestly asking here, what snide comments?
The ones B.E. made, for example. But I don't want to start anything by calling people out specifically. I know some people here probably were thinking of Mike writing "In comparison with Brian", but it didn't read that way to me. But if I misread anybody I'll apologize for it.

Hell, Mozart was a hack compared to Brian. Ok, extremely slight overstatement. Smiley

Maggie did bring up a good point; Mike does play keyboards, which I didn't realize was an actual thing apart from the "Mike Come Back to La" clip
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 09, 2019, 12:38:38 PM
Is it really necessary to make snide comments about thinking that Mike doesn't know how to write a song?!? Give the man a fucking break. He's been in the music business for nearly 60 years. Let's see you guys try to write a number 1 song. You're all making him out to be a damn drooling idiot that can't put two and two together.

Whoa...bro, most of us aren't saying he can't write a song at all! The issue is when the song is credited to him solely which means he wrote the music AND the words, which is mighty tricky when you don't play an instrument (or use music creation software *cough*)
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: July 08, 2019, 10:55:50 PM
My daughterís been listening to old recordings from the 30s , things I never heard of, trying to add a new inspiration to her writing. So Iíve been hearing a lot that lately along with newer artists like Billie Eilish

Changing the subject slightly, I'm gradually getting to grips with Throbbing Gristle's wonderfully named proto-industrial album 20 Jazz Funk Greats. (Blame RangeRover for pointing me at Psychic TV.) It's pretty minimal stuff--actually it reminds me a bit of Fear2Stop at times. This is "Hot On The Heels Of Love": 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFbP5ygrT4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Jazz_Funk_Greats

Throbbing Gristle was one of my influences, actually

Well how about that?!! I've always steered clear of them because of the name. Grin

I'm listening to 20JFG for the second time (but not the last time, I'm sure) and it's making much more sense now. Wow. Pretty uncompromising stuff but that's fine with me. Wink

I don't think I'll look any further though (he said, sticking to his one-album-per-artist policy). Besides, it can't get any better than this... Roll Eyes

Interesting fact: I learned about TG from reading a Depeche Mode biography
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 08, 2019, 08:30:38 PM
Iím hoping no one brings up Goiní To The Beach. I do love the song, as sad as that sounds, and Mike may have had the idea and possibly the melody, but who added chords and backing vocal arrangements and then went uncredited? Brian.


Yep, and thereís video evidence
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett's on: July 08, 2019, 08:29:22 PM
I'm expecting it to be a sunflower box set and I get shivers just thinking about it.

Needs to be a psychical release.

I hope itís a physical release but psychical would be cool too.  Is that where they just transmit it directly into our brains?   Smiley

Iím f***ed then... I already got a virus:lol
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson / Zombie dates?? on: July 08, 2019, 06:45:44 PM
In answer to Billy C specifically, the answer is YES "seriously", don't play this you care more about Brian Wilson  than anybody else BS.
And don't try to shame me in public! WE all make business decisions, including BW.


As Hey Jude noted, the shows are still on...if they are cancelled or postponed, youíll be informed by the venue.  Thatís how it works.  Iíve had tickets to two Brian shows end up being cancelled.  One was this last round of cancellations, the other was last spring when shows were cancelled due to him having back surgery.   I got an email from the venues as soon as the decision to cancel was made.  Again, thatís how it works.  As far as your comment about fans being left in the dark, I totally disagree.  Weíve actually had a very frank statement from Brian about the reason the early summer dates were cancelled.

Also, I have to say...if you buy tickets to see a performer in his late 70s with what are quite frankly legendary health issues, you have to accept a little uncertainty.  People get sick.  People who are 76 YEARS OLD sometimes get sick and might have to cancel a show/tour.  It comes with the territory.  Come on, man, have some perspective. 


Exactly.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett's on: July 08, 2019, 01:36:08 PM
Iíd be down for a Sunflower set
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson / Zombie dates?? on: July 08, 2019, 12:55:27 PM
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In answer to Billy C specifically, the answer is YES "seriously", don't play this you care more about Brian Wilson  than anybody else BS.
And don't try to shame me in public! WE all make business decisions, including BW.

  For your information, I did take offense to what you said, as it was extremely insensitive.  I have seen first-hand the toll mental illness can take on a person. I'm sorry you found it to be "BS"  .

As for the rest...both myself and HeyJude answered.


25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson / Zombie dates?? on: July 08, 2019, 11:44:02 AM
True, but that wording seemed a bit insensitive.

Per Brian's site (and Ticketmaster as well) the show is still on. Seems like any shows that were going to be cancelled or rescheduled have already been done so.
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