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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: Yesterday at 07:14:10 PM
Happy birthday my brother...
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike working on yet another new album on: March 19, 2019, 08:45:27 PM
he is


That was awesome lol
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dick Dale RIP on: March 18, 2019, 04:07:10 PM
I found it fascinating to learn today that Dick Dale's "Misirlou" is an Arabic word and that he was of Lebanese/Syrian ancestry; thus, the musical influence on this.

Did not know that!
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: So what did we all do today? on: March 16, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
Currently listening to The Smile Sessions with my daughter while we work on music
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: March 14, 2019, 02:50:30 PM
I'll buy the book but only if i get to punch Rocky

If that was true of everyone who wanted to punch Rocky, heíd have a best seller
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine RIP on: March 14, 2019, 11:37:26 AM
Hell just him doing the intro for Be My Baby solidifies his legacy
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: March 13, 2019, 09:59:05 PM
Iíve lost 57 pounds in the past two years and Iíll be 41 in August...thereís hope for me!
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: March 13, 2019, 08:33:09 AM
Well said, Emily
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My thoughts on Rock Pamplins Endless Wave on: March 12, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
According to the book the two of them had an affair.*  Rocky also made some disgusting comments about her in it. Of course there are several things in the book that are questionable , so who knows?

*Confirmed elsewhere, though
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My thoughts on Rock Pamplins Endless Wave on: March 12, 2019, 10:25:58 AM
I myself haven't read it, and after reading some of Rocky/Ron's posts in the other thread, I don't have any real plans  to do so
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine on: March 11, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
Dammit. I thought the world of him
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Adult Child article on: March 11, 2019, 09:23:13 AM
^ Thought I recognized his name...
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Endless Summer on: March 09, 2019, 10:17:43 PM
I never understood why they just couldnít have either released or re-recorded some of the tracks they had in the can after Holland. It wouldíve sold with Endless Harmony out because it sounded more like classic Beach Boys than 15 Big Ones did , plus you have the added bonus of Brian vocals
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine on: March 09, 2019, 05:57:11 PM
Keeping him in my thoughts
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / New Adult Child article on: March 08, 2019, 07:41:47 AM
Showed up in my feed today

https://www.google.com/amp/s/longreads.com/2019/03/07/shelved-brian-wilsons-adult-child/amp/
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: March 05, 2019, 12:12:03 PM
Ron, you've made your points. We've made ours. Some of us will buy Rocky's book, some won't. Some will wait until it shows up at a price that we feel is more appropriate to pay for the accounts of someone whose biggest claim to fame is cold-cocking Carl Wilson, who had more talent in his little finger than Rocky has in his entire body--which very likely the case for you and me as well. Were the BBs messed up in the late 70s? You better believe it. Did Mike Love help keep the band alive? Sure he did. But in the years after Rocky's "services" were no longer required, Carl Wilson was the musical anchor of the band until he became too ill to continue. It's pretty clear that the BBs were running on fumes from 1998-2012 until they agreed to reunite for a 50th tour. From 1998 to 2012 Brian Wilson was out touring with his own band, and THAT was at least as important to the viability of a reunion as anything Mike did. Without Brian, a 50th anniversary show would have been a total joke and a complete non-starter.

If you can't see that, then I think all of us here, regardless of our varying levels of hostility to Rocky and--by proxy--to you, as you continue to stir the pot for little or no good reason, should just walk away from this thread and chalk things up to the fact that we tried to set you straight about the actual history of the band. We tried--and failed. Time to for everyone to move on: there's nothing left to say--or see--here. Best of luck with your product, but be grateful that the sons of Carl Wilson are mellow and tolerant guys and will likely consider the source once they become aware of how badly their father was treated in the pages of Rocky's book. If it were Mike you'd done that to, you'd very likely open your door one day and find someone standing there with a subpoena in his hand.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Weirdest Photos Of Mike Love You Can Find on: February 25, 2019, 10:16:15 PM
LOL
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Drugs and The Beach Boys on: February 20, 2019, 10:12:54 PM
I think Bruce was the only one who didnít smoke weed
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: February 16, 2019, 01:27:14 PM
I did something similar, except mixed 60s and 80s Brian


Man,the 80's were Brian's most visually mysterious decade.


Nah I just did some filters on Brian using FaceApp.. was kinda surprised that it made him look like young Brian
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Linda Ronstadt February 2019 interview praises Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds on: February 13, 2019, 09:25:32 PM
Thank you for posting that...she hit the nail on the head beautifully
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beatles Vs. the Beach Boys on: February 12, 2019, 10:20:46 PM
OK, "stole" was a strong word, but I think he was trying to copying the overall vibe and feeling of YSBIM, at least subconsciously, and a lot of the patterns on the song are similar. Obviously I don't think Paul would be so blatant as to directly make his own imitation of it, but it seems to me he was maybe trying to make his own "impression" of it.

I had read Paul wrote HTAE while waiting for John to wake up one day while he was hanging out beside the pool at John's house, sometime shortly after Pet Sounds had come out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here,_There_and_Everywhere
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McCartney began writing "Here, There and Everywhere" at Lennon's house in Weybridge, in early June
Pet Sounds came out in mid-May, of course. Plenty of time for Paul to give the album several listens.

Anyway, they both have introductions which, while different, could be said to be similar. But after that, line by line here's where I see the similarities ...

Part 1:
Paul: Here, making each day of the year
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Brian: I know perfectly well I'm not where I should be
Brian: I've been very aware you've been patient with me

Here, Brian repeats the melody twice while Paul does it just once, but notice both melodies generally ascend up, "peak" in the middle of the verse and then descend back down, like a mountain. That's the main part I think is very similar. Next ....

Part 2:

Paul: Changing my life with the wave of her hand || nobody can, deny that there's something there
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian: Every time we break up you bring back your love to me || and after all I've done to you how can it be?

In both cases here we have a much longer melodic line (that is actually 2 lines strung together). The first half of this (the part before my "||") the melody "peaks" on the 3rd word in both songs ("life"/"we"). In both songs after the "||" we have a melody that sort-of asks for a "resolution" ...

Now, the parts immediately after that do differ. Brain does a refrain ("You still believe in me!") while Paul goes right into the verse again. Then both songs repeat the above.

I also think the "I wanna cry!" is sort-of what like Paul used as a bridge ("I want her everywhere ..."). I'm not sure what you'd call the "I wanna cry" on the BB song but it's sort-of like a bridge anyway, maybe a bridge before the coda. These two parts are definitely different.

Imagine that Paul took Brian's first two lines, got rid of one of them, took the "I wanna cry!" and made it into a regular bridge (which is really almost like a chorus), changed the melody a bit, and - bingo! - you've got a new song.

Again, "stole" was probably a strong word. I don't even think he was probably consciously stealing/copying anything, I'm guessing it was more subconscious, more along the lines of George and "He's So Fine."

I once wrote a song that, when I played it to somebody, they told me, "That sounds like a Beatles song." I was never trying to copy anything, it was just a tune that came to me. But when they pointed that out to me, I realized, yeah, it sounded like a Beatles song (particularly Yellow Submarine). Sometimes you "copy" things without consciously intending to copy anything. IMO this is a case of that.

I would agree. Truthfully I think they inspired each other
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All I Wanna Do - What were The BBs trying to achieve with it? on: January 31, 2019, 10:27:56 PM
I'm not sure about it being psychedelic.

It does seem to be considered a forerunner to shoegaze / one of the first examples of chillwave though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillwave

Definitely. I myself was heavily influenced by it. I find it to be absolutely perfect in all aspects
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Brian contribute to the writing of on: January 27, 2019, 11:45:57 AM
Straight from the horse's mouth on this one. Brian contributed no written portion to the final version of Deirdre,. Bruce kept his name on the song to be cool. Brian's contribution of "his name is Bob/he has a job" (yes, really) was not considered strong enough by Bruce to make the final cut.

Was that info from Bruce or Brian?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Connect the Beach Boys dots... songs on: January 23, 2019, 09:23:16 PM
Donít hurt my little sister-> heroes and villains. Once you hear it you canít unhear it
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: January 22, 2019, 09:23:10 PM
I did something similar, except mixed 60s and 80s Brian

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