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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Milt Love Auction. on: May 26, 2017, 07:11:50 PM
Remember when AGD single handedly debunked that 1964 letter he supposedly wrote to his "girlfriend"? Maybe he should take a look at these.

*ducking from the bricks being thrown my way*

Nah. He wouldn't care unless he got comped tickets for a Sea World or casino performance.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 26, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
Sad
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 26, 2017, 11:37:26 AM
That is sweet
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 26, 2017, 11:37:10 AM
I remember in the mid-2000s when Brian started doing songs for the first time like "Shut Down", some fans complained, and I pointed out that one has to remember that Brian *wasn't* on tour for most of all of those years when the touring BBs were running through those hits over and over. Mike Kowalski and Ed Carter and Mike Meros had played some of those songs more times than Brian had. So I think it was (and is) cool for him to reclaim in a sense even those early songs that he had a hand in as well.

So that lack of being as worn out on those songs, coupled with indeed perhaps fondly remembering that early era, is probably part of the reason Brian digs those songs for concerts. He has also mentioned that he isn't into singing the verbose songs these days like "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", so that might also be a reason he's more likely to do early stuff as opposed to later-era stuff.

Good point. He's said the same thing about Sail On Sailor, too.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Ask the Moderators on: May 26, 2017, 08:43:10 AM
Message me privately with the link. I'll get it taken down.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 25, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
I agree, it's the perfect era to try to pick up people who know the early stuff and PS, Wild Honey material is a great next step.

Definitely.

A little off topic, but a now sadly defunct college radio station in town (the station for Rice University, if you're wondering) used to play the sh*t out of tracks from WH. Well, the *only* time I ever heard any of my tracks played on the radio came about 8 years ago...and it came after they played "Aren't you Glad".

7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 25, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
No way I'd want "Smile" material bogarting space on this set. We got a pretty epic Smile set already. Sure, I'd like them to collect any orphaned Smile stereo mixes somewhere. But it's time to highlight something else in their catalog outside of PS or Smile.

Agreed
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 25, 2017, 04:01:20 PM
Not better than "Matchpoint" or "Pitter Patter"!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 25, 2017, 02:43:14 PM
I think "slow ride" should play as BW enters the stage with his shuffle to the piano! Grin

:D
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 25, 2017, 02:42:15 PM
Thanks for your kinds words, Jude.

I don't want to besmirch any other band, but as someone who's quite aware of what's in several other group's vaults, of the "majors" (and I'm not exaggerating), The Beach Boys are the ONLY one where if its unreleased material was finally released, the entire narrative changes and history gets a revamp. The BB's are the only band who can get a 10th life from what they left on the cutting room floor. The Grateful Dead definitely do not have five more "Sugar Magnolia's" tucked away in the vault -- The BB's have 15.

There are many different avenues and tiers for this material to find its way out. I have a feeling that this release will break through to a new market.

I overheard two industry people today referring to it as the "followup to Smile."
Pretty cool.

Tell everyone you know about this LP.
If it sells, we'll get more.

Well said as usual Howie.

I'll go one step further and say that the Beach Boys are the only band where a good portion of the time the unreleased material is better than much of the released material after a certain point. Hell, much of their unreleased material blows many other bands' released material out of the water!
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 25, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.

Exactly.

Crazy, I know you were kidding but ironically enough my daughter made a comment a few days ago about Brian singing Slow Ride LOL

Heck, I'd rather hear Brian cover "Slow Ride" than a Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry song at this stage. So have at it Brian! Throw in some ELO for good measure.

Ha! ELO is one of Jaymie's favorite bands, and "Strange Magic" is her favorite song by anybody. ..
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 25, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.

Exactly.

Crazy, I know you were kidding but ironically enough my daughter made a comment a few days ago about Brian singing Slow Ride LOL
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 25, 2017, 08:46:37 AM
It's ironic that Brian seems more disengaged from the PS material than a typical/random show from past years, yet *more* engaged by the first set of songs than recent times. It's almost like, if they could jettison the PS set and do more stuff that Brian's into, it would be a mind-blowingly high-energy show for Brian.

I'd have to think anyone would be kind of sick of a full album night after night after they're up to probably over 130 performances since last year. They've got roughly over 40 shows to go on this tour.



I agree to a certain extent, but it's not like some of the other well worn hits aren't trotted out night after night. Why is he bored of performing Pet Sounds, but not California Girls, Good Vibrations, the hot rod and surfing hits?

Good question.   Maybe because he has less leads then on the rest of the show...? I honestly don't know.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Milt Love Auction. on: May 24, 2017, 03:43:02 PM
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Of particular interest are the handwritten memoirs by Brian Wilson, offering insights into his well known struggles with mental illness, drugs, and complicated relationships with family and others inside and outside the music industry. I believe this will be a valuable source for biographers, music historians and perhaps museums," said Brigitte Kruse, lead auctioneer of the auction company.

  Cool
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 22, 2017, 09:18:58 AM
That's not the cover art.

Thank goodness :D
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 20, 2017, 09:42:27 PM
Oh yeah I forgot about that one.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 20, 2017, 10:21:27 AM
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PS As a final note, yeah, I guess this IS the 1967 copyright extension release a few months early. I mean, with this coming out, the BB vault cupboards are pretty much cleaned out of 1967 material we want to hear, aren't they? I can't think of anything that's missing apart from 'Good Time Mama' 'Good News' and 'Hawaiian Song'... and I'll wager we'll find out what happened to them in the liner notes. I have no 'inside' telling me that... that's just a guess. But basically this release gives us all the tracks we want, and I'm betting the liners will give us the *information* we've all been wondering about for years. The team behind this are arch-fans like us, remember? And so I'll bet, like a lot of others have previously said here, that those three Smiley era 'tracks' were just section titles for bits of She's Going Bald and Little Pad, before those tracks got their final titles.

Wait...will this be a physical copy unlike the previous copyright extension releases?
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Meeting Brian & Al vs Mike & Bruce on: May 19, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
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I had a nice moment with Brian when I was on the front row of a show in Holland. He kept pointing at me and my then gf dancing and smiling at us or giving a thumbs up. Amazing to see the guy who'd given me so much enjoyment enjoying us enjoying him.

:D

I love telling this story, but back in 2004 when he did his cigarette lighter routine, when he asked everyone to pull out their lighters, my bandmate/friend and I yelled (in unison) "but we just quit smoking". Without missing a beat, Brian responded "well goddammit, good for you" .  LOL
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 19, 2017, 11:36:43 AM
I'm giddy like a schoolgirl over this Cool
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / RIP Chris Cornell on: May 18, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
Via suicide. He was 52.
https://www.yahoo.com/music/chris-cornell-soundgarden-audioslave-lead-singer-dies-52-100236488.html Cry
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 17, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
LOL That's awesome
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #8: Past Masters Vol. I on: May 16, 2017, 11:10:18 PM
I'm glad "Slow Down" with pedestrian John vocals gone. Bye! Smiley

"Thank You Girl"
"I Call Your Name"
Slow Down is a cover. It wasn't written by any member of the band.

True,  but I think she was just talking about Lennon 's vocal being weak, not the strength of the song
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #8: Past Masters Vol. I on: May 16, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Mersey- I'll Get You
London- I'm Down
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: on: May 16, 2017, 10:57:08 AM
Well said Desper on your reason for leaving, though Don Malcolm meant that as well!

Yeah, that's how I took it as well.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: May 13, 2017, 10:46:44 AM
Couldn't go last night as I had to work Sad hopefully somebody else was there from the board...
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