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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 11:55:49 PM
I find it ironic that Mike's Beach Boys are playing his new solo tunes, while Brian's band just plays the same old songs night after night. My opinion - i'm glad Mike is playing the new songs. I've been listening to some of the songs on youtube, and am enjoying what I've heard so far. Yeah, the autotune is not the best thing in the world, but that's how records are made these days. I will write more when I've had time to listen more. But it's not the trainwreck I was expecting.

The good songs are great...ram Raj quite frankly is badass. The fact that I've had it stuck in my head all day says something,  and it had the best production on the album by far. As for the rest, well...Ambha Love sounds like she could have a good career on her own merits,  and the version of warmth of the sun sounds like it could be a hit today.

The problem is, the bad stuff is so bad that it ruins the good stuff. Like, awful. It'd be like if there was a BB compilation with two songs from pet sounds,  one from Friends, and the rest from SIP.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paley Sessions Discussion Thread on: Yesterday at 11:49:24 PM
Hell, it's kinda more fun that way...no pressure and you can do whatever the hell you want.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 11:40:45 PM
Just got the CD today, and reading the liner notes, it seems Christian (and Brian) is all over the album.
Well, considering the 2012 version of DIA was used as the basis for this one...

Apologies, I meant Brian Love, Mike's other son. I'd be surprised if Brian Wilson was all over the album.

Gotcha. Thought you were referring to Do it again!
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 10:49:14 PM
Just got the CD today, and reading the liner notes, it seems Christian (and Brian) is all over the album.
Well, considering the 2012 version of DIA was used as the basis for this one...
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tribute Band Taking the P!ss on: Yesterday at 09:42:12 PM
No the disc, not the cover.

http://www.beachboys.org

Oh wow...doesn't look good at all.

Also, they look like the biggest batch of dorks that ever dorked
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 08:11:24 PM
LOL

It's the aural equivalent of masturbating with sandpaper.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 08:01:10 PM
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BTW, has this piece of fertilizer charted?

8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tribute Band Taking the P!ss on: Yesterday at 05:31:50 PM
Looking at the art again...it says "The Beach Boys by Good Vibrations"...but the "by" is smaller than an ant's dick. Clever, boys, clever.


Take another look at the disc. No ‘by’ there.

I think they are donkey deep!



It's to the left of the word Good, in tiny letters, in white print. Heh. What a bunch of idiots
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tribute Band Taking the P!ss on: Yesterday at 05:20:18 PM
The funny part is...you think they would've gotten angry at Bret Wheadon for beachboys.com  but then again that's just a website and it isn't like he is selling music there.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: VDP on Twitter on: Yesterday at 05:18:28 PM
He's so full of sh*t that he pisses out 2000 Flushes™
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 05:13:08 PM
They got NBA on the TV here at work. *snore* Been listening to UTL on headphones....if I have another stroke I'm suing Mike, f*** it. LOL
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tribute Band Taking the P!ss on: Yesterday at 05:10:42 PM
Looking at the art again...it says "The Beach Boys by Good Vibrations"...but the "by" is smaller than an ant's dick. Clever, boys, clever.

And why do I have a feeling it sounds an awful (perfect word) lot  like disc 2 of this album?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 05:08:38 PM
Sad listen to some classic BW....
  Like I ever stop Cool
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Brian never met Van Dyke Parks? on: Yesterday at 05:07:04 PM
Billy needs to repackage himself as a hipster....  Roll Eyes

Hey man, I was a hipster before it was cool!






(hey, that was kind of clever)
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 05:06:04 PM
I wish! I have bad insomnia any way...with most of this, I might end up with night terrors!
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Tribute Band Taking the P!ss on: Yesterday at 05:05:04 PM
They look how Unleash the Love sounds...generic, half-assed, and WASPy

They have used the domain name since 2002. So BRI should wake up to Mikes use of the logo in about 2032.  Grin
And that explains a hell of a lot!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 05:03:26 PM
If the production was decent, I would have LOVED this album. I mean, there's a lot of really great songs! But the shitty production just sucked the life out of the music.
Agreed.  The production, and the cheap ass sound that sounds like it was the microphones had soft pillows placed in front of them during the recording process.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Brian never met Van Dyke Parks? on: Yesterday at 04:57:06 PM
I was about to say that I wouldn't have liked the BB nearly as much, until I thought of the fact that Parks's  writing may have turned out different and less esoteric.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 04:00:25 PM
After living with this album for a while, I really can't stand the BBs re-recordings with the exception of Wild Honey (maybe WIBN if I'm feeling generous). The first CD has grown on me, despite the autotune. I still wish it wasn't there. I really like Ram Raj though. i think it's a quite ambitious song for Mike to tackle. It might be my all-time favorite Mike solo song, and my second favorite just Mike composition behind Big Sur.

I agree that some of the originals have grown on me a little. Mostly the better ones are just bland and inoffensive. Some are baddd. The remakes are mostly so, so, so off-the-charts bad, it soils the whole damn thing, especially after his previous Autotune comments. Some interviewer has to ask him about that, right? Or is Autotune hypocrisy on the list of un-askable questions?

Why did Mike not put Big Sur on here? Baffling.

The big problem with disc one is that, Ram Raj aside (seriously, why is that track so so much better), the production sounds HORRIBLE and makes the album sound cheap. I made a K-Tel reference earlier, and it was not meant as a joke. It really does sound like something somebody recorded in a karaoke studio at a mall and then dubbed it 3 generations.

If not for Ram Raj, and Ambha Love's vocals (seriously, she impressed me big time), this would be in my bottom 3 of worst albums I have ever heard. Not just by professional artists. I mean by *anybody*, and this is coming from someone who has been producing for about 20 years. I've heard some pure sh*t, I mean REAL bad. This ranks down there.

And the freaking NERVE of putting Daybreak over the Ocean on disc one and billing it as an ALL NEW ORIGINAL, when not only it was originally written in the 70s, it was RELEASED AS A BB TRACK FIVE YEARS AGO.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 03:40:07 PM
After living with this album for a while, I really can't stand the BBs re-recordings with the exception of Wild Honey (maybe WIBN if I'm feeling generous). The first CD has grown on me, despite the autotune. I still wish it wasn't there. I really like Ram Raj though. i think it's a quite ambitious song for Mike to tackle. It might be my all-time favorite Mike solo song, and my second favorite just Mike composition behind Big Sur.

You know what? I agree with you. I was surprised when I heard it, and wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was.  Can't believe it's on the same album as the horrible K-Tel cover version-sounding re-recording of Getcha Back. Actually I can't believe it's on the same album as the rest of the songs. It's actually good, the melody is nice, the vocals sound cool, and best of all, it doesn't sound like a cheap recording. It sounds...gasp...professional.  What happened on this one? Did someone drop a molly in his Heineken or something?

And the horrible auto-tuned version of Help Me Rhonda may just be the worst thing ever recorded..oh wait, I just heard the opening part of Make Love, not War.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 01:40:56 PM
Yeah, going to do a track by track review sometime over the next few days, most likely this weekend
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: Yesterday at 01:33:00 PM
Or a righteous bald dude review?


There's one coming, actually!
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Brian never met Van Dyke Parks? on: Yesterday at 01:24:39 PM
I wrote a quick alternate history if anyone is interested in reading it.

Brian keeps experiementing with LSD. After Pet Sounds, Brian reaches out to good friend Terry Melcher about finding an intellectual collaborator to help push The Beach Boys into a more hip circle of listeners.

In this timeline Van Dyke Parks either doesn’t exist or went on to pursue acting full time.

Thinking out loud, Terry Melcher suggests that Brian go to a Doors show at the Whiskey. Brian takes some acid and heads to the show. He is entranced by what he sees. He’s not impressed by the vocals but the lyrics are about crystal ships and how the West is the best. Post-show Brian is introduced to Jim backstage, he’s told that Jim is the mastermind behind the lyrics. Jim is bombed out of his tree on alcohol but he knows of Brian and digs his music. The two, though weird as hell, kinda hit it off.

“If you ever want to stop by and work on some music, here’s my number.” Brian tells Jim and hands Jim his business card. Keep in mind this is before The Doors are even signed. They know that they are a hit but Jim is frustrated that they have played the Whisky and other hip venues for months without much luck regarding a recording contract. So here comes Brian, rumors of The Beach Boys starting their own label are floating around Hollywood....”I’d be a fool not to go talk to the leader of one of the greatest bands on the planet.” Jim thinks. Also keep in mind that Jim was a fan of The Beach Boys.

A couple days later Jim shows up at Brian’s door. He’s greeted with the smell of fresh broiled steak dueling with the pot smoke wafting from the living room. Brian lights up upon seeing the scruffy but masculine looking Morrison, and they head to a couch where Brian offers Jim a joint. They talk about the music business and their own musical ideas.

Brian is blown away by how intellectual Morrison is. He is talking about Roman gods, Nietzsche, ancient philosophy. Brian suggests they both take some acid and then head to the piano. Though Jim is a man full of confidence he is also not sure what to think of Brian, he is intimidated by the fame of The Beach Boys, but Brian seems so full of childlike love of life. He can’t say no to writing a song on acid that won’t be remembered. They take the acid and both keep talking about life.

This is how Brian works. He did it with Asher with major success...sit on the couch, get high, and talk about what’s on your mind. It’s like stream of conscious thinking out loud. And with Jim Morrison it opened up an entire world of possibilities.

They head to the piano and both are high as kites yet Brian writes the music away on sheet music above the piano. They laugh and write into the evening. Nothing is said about an official collaboration, but they both know they’re onto something.

Although it has been on Brian’s mind, he doesn’t tell Jim of the wonderment he has with a cowboy and Indian song. He instead suggest they write a song about the rise of love in the West, the fall of Rome, and perhaps a song about a mystical girl and boy who innocently and wonderfully fall in love. Brian also tells Jim he wants to name his next album ‘Dumb Angel’. Jim is shocked that the leader of wholesome sounding Beach Boys wants to go off in such a direction. But it intrigues him even more.

Weeks go by. Jim plays for the Doors by night, and works with Brian by day. They create an entire album, a pop symphony created in the minds of two of the most mystifying musical geniuses of 1966. During this time Brian also records The Doors as a side project (Brian’s only suggestion that they “add more harmonies”). It’s a symbiotic relationship that serves both bands perfectly. The Doors now have a demo tape that sounds like a hit album, they will soon sign with Capitol thanks to Brian putting in a good word.

The Beach Boys get back from a tour and Brian excitedly shows them the new material. It’s weird, no doubt, but Jim and Brian are so confident about it that they see potential in it. At a vocal recording session of ‘CaliEssence’, Mike Love asks Jim Morrison pointedly “What do these lyrics mean?” to which Jim just laughs at Mike. Nothing further is said and The Beach Boys go on recording the songs.

On January 1, 1967 The Beach Boys release ‘Dumb Angel’ to critical acclaim...12 songs of intellectual pop genius. The Doors, on their own merits, skyrocket to the top of the charts with the release of their first album. Brian still takes a break from big productions after ‘Dumb Angel’ and follows the Doors style with a grungy soulful album of their own called ‘Wild Honey’...listen to the organ in the middle eight, perfectly captures that Doors sound. The Beach Boys followup to ‘Dumb Angel’, without the lyrical aid of Jim Morrison, does well on the charts.

They continue to impress listeners and critics for the next decade. Their final album as a group, The Beach Boys Love You becomes the pinnacle of 70s rock...it’s a perfect sendoff for a band that would never tour again until 2012 for a 50th anniversary tour.

The album ‘Dumb Angel’ makes the Rolling Stone top 100 albums ever made list, coming it at number 2 behind Pet Sounds. It is revered as one of the weirdest and incredible collaborations of rock history.

Love it..And yeah, great call on the organ sound of WH...it's one of the reasons why it's my daughter's favorite BB album
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Brian never met Van Dyke Parks? on: Yesterday at 12:50:43 PM
What if BW met Billy in 2017.... Cool Guy

Then I'd die a happy person :D

25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if Brian never met Van Dyke Parks? on: Yesterday at 12:32:41 PM
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If anything, that exception he makes to Christian's lyrics implies to me that Mike felt other songwriting partners weren't adding anything that he (Mike) couldn't do. And Mike may not have been 100% wrong in that assertion. Not that he would have produced the same lyrics as others like Usher and Asher did, but he probably could have done lyrics on those songs too. 

Please Let Me Wonder and She Knows Me Too Well bears that out, IMHO

And California Girls.   And, after Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations.  Those are two iconic sounds.  That's why I think maybe with VDP in the picture, Brian might be willing to let try try his hand at some lyrics for other musical ideas that wound up on Smile. 

Oh yeah, no doubt, was just using those two as progressive ballad examples
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