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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: January 05, 2015, 04:33:48 AM
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Too bad the guy playing Dennis doesn't even try to sound like him. At least Bruce Greenwood came close to nailing Dennis' post-'74 voice in the "Summer Dreams" TV movie.
I know right? He doesn't even look like him either. The other guy (Terry Melcher?) in the film looked closer to the real Dennis than that guy did.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: POB vinyl compare/contrast and a meeting Denny story over at AnalogPlanet.com
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on: January 01, 2015, 11:40:39 PM
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I didn't like what Michael had to say about Dennis is THIS regard...he wrote pure foolishness saying this about Denny..."The only Beach Boy who personified the Beach Boy image of sun, surfing, girls, cars and sex (the screaming at Beach Boy concerts was all aimed at Dennis) was the least talented in the conventional sense of the word."
What a PILE. The least talented? And he blew your mind away with a 'lap piano' while attempting to charm you out of a portion of the coccaine you inherited from another guy you associated with while he was screaming for HELP?
Dennis WAS talented. Musically...within the framework of the principle Beach Boys... I'd suggest he stood 2nd only to Brian in terms of over-all creative ability. But Denny's talent was almost untapped. People, including...it would seem...his own bandmates didn't take him seriously. Maybe because he'd always been the 'f***-up'. Tougher than a nail but always getting into trouble. So those close to him were maybe just too damn close?
You know I'm a huge Carl fan. Thought the world of him as a man...as a singer...as a talent...as the heart and soul of the touring group. But compared to Pacific Ocean Blue? Carl's solo albums were a distant 2nd...and third...to Dennis' masterworks.
Michael met Dennis once. He spent more time with him on that occasion than I did collectively. But I saw Dennis away from the prying eye too. I saw him several times between 1971 and '82 and the changes were obvious and negative. MAybe some of it had to do with the frustration of not being taken seriously...of having so much to contribute but having it turned down for a variety of reasons not the least of which may well have been that he was still regarded as "the least talented in the conventional sense of the word." I last saw Dennis Wilson just weeks before this guy did. It wasn't Dennis at his best by any means. But at least I KNEW that he was a TALENT. A real, honest, proven, legitimate TALENT. A talent with some serious problems.
Denny grew up with an abusive father. He associated with some 'heavy' people who turned out to be murderously fucking scary. He lived, to a degree, in a bubble. He had reasons to try to ease the load on his mind/his soul with drugs and alcohol. But just as heavy a load would have been to try to deal with and justify the pain of being a really creative guy who just wasn't taken seriously enough.
Old Michael just helps to further perpetuate that misguided myth. 31 years later and we're still buying this kind of bull-sh*t? We owe Dennis Wilson a LOT more than THAT.
Excellent post Add Some!!!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question for \
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on: December 31, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
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I have a question for those of you with more access to the group and its assorted employees and associates over the years: do you have, or have you in the past often had, access to much music that hasn't been (or hadn't been until much later) released, either officially or on boots? And if so, can you talk about what that's like?
This is not to ask you to reveal sources or secrets, or to share, or anything like that. The point behind the question is twofold:
1) Is there still much left available to be heard (not counting alternate mixes and such--I mean different songs)? We had that "Bedroom Years" article relatively recently, for example. 2) (This is the one I am more interested in.) What is it like to have, or to have heard, music that you're really not supposed to talk about or share generally? I know the sharing of musical experiences is really important for me--it's a part of what makes music great--and so it must be tough to either just keep your mouths shut or talk only to some select few.
Anything you're willing to discuss without compromising your integrity would be appreciated. It's interesting to me.
Can we include the footage that's still kept in the vaults too?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / French Documentary 1977
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on: December 30, 2014, 02:55:05 PM
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What ever happened to this ? It used to be on Youtube a few years ago and now I can't find it anywhere. I remember a bald Mike Love being interviewed and Dennis and Karen Lamm were in a car being interviewed about conflicts in the group.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: 1968 article and 1981 concert
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on: December 28, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
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Second item (the podcast) is a decent recording , however not 1981 more like 1991 WHY ? Kokomo is in the set - Matt Jardine , Mike K on Drums , Richie Cannata on Sax etc.... O ok, I searched "the Beach Boys 1981" trying to look for something else (the cheerleading competition where Dennis says he's from Venice) and I found that. I found actual concert footage from 1981 earlier but now I don't remember the site I found it on, I was gonna post that.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy 68 to Carl
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on: December 22, 2014, 11:49:22 AM
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Hypothetically (obviously) but if Dennis and Carl were alive where would they be? Would the beach boys be a full group? Would they be without Brian? Would Brian, Dennis and Carl be a trio?
I would've liked to have seen this happen
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Annette talks about \
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on: December 18, 2014, 05:24:28 AM
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And in the end, isn't that what really matters? A good set of genes?
No. Look, I don't watch the youtube vid if it only has pictures rolling & turning. If it's a concert or clip with motion, then yes, in a way, the visual aspect matters. But in my case - & I thought naively in case of every audiophile, even casual listener - what matters in the end is music. And to me, Annette's cover was the worst among the dozen others *I* heard. If I felt otherwise, I'd of course tell it. Annette was popular because of the way she was built so the guys didn't care whether or not she could sing
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
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on: August 11, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
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I went numb in the car when it was confirmed. I really enjoyed his work going back to Mork And Mindy but wasn't a major-major fan, I think it was the shock. Heard it on the way to an appointment at 7, just a brief message "comedian Robin Williams dead at 63 of an apparent suicide". Quickly scanned the other news stations...nothing, no word at all. Thought I may have heard it wrong. Just after 8, back in the car to another appointment, radio on - it was confirmed. I literally went numb for a few seconds. Such a shame.
Creative, artistic types battle these issues often. Those who are geniuses in their specific field, as Robin was with improvisation, struggle even more. There is almost a twisted or perverted trade-off with those true artists and geniuses in their field, where the incredible talent is often at a cost of battling any number of personal issues. His comedic muse, inspiration, and near-soul mate Jonathan Winters suffered the same way, battling various mental illnesses his whole life to the point of being hospitalized. That man was another manic genius of improvised comedy. It's a shame to lose such a talent.
Good Will Hunting. That's the clincher for me.
As far as his comedy, he appeared with his idol Jonathan Winters on "The Tonight Show" the week before Carson left the air, May 1992. I still have it on VHS. The two of those men basically put on a clinic on what comedy and improvisation was all about...just the two of them riffing off of each other sitting on Carson's soon to be retired couch. It was an amazing performance, a tour de force. And the two of them were riffing on setup after line after joke like a machine, and all of it from their imaginations.
The guy made a lot of people laugh, in many ways that's both priceless and a legacy to be celebrated.
I was in the car when I found out too. I couldn't believe it . he will be surely missed.
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