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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RS Ranks TWGMTR #30 Song of 2012 on: December 08, 2012, 06:33:06 AM
I stopped reading Rolling Stone in 1972 or 1973 when they got the "exclusive" rights to photograph the James Taylor/Carly Simon wedding, morphing into an early version of People Magazine.  They jumped all over Robert Palmer in the 1980's along with feminist organizations over the tame "Addicted To Love" video, while the had allowed ads with fully naked women to sell records.
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How Could the Beach Boys Have Kept Themselves Relevant after 1966? on: December 02, 2012, 06:19:12 AM
Random memories: I don't think there's anything they could have done.  They were seen as squares as the youth movement became Stalinist in 1968 and narrowed what was acceptable entertainment.  I dutifully bought all their 45's from 1965 until 1969 when I missed "Break Away" because A)  I never found it in the local record store and B)  heard it maybe twice on the radio, and it disappeared from my consciousness for a time.  My "hip" friends dropped them quickly, although they all liked "I'd Love Just Once To See You" for the sneaky ending you could play for girls. I'm glad they stayed true to themselves in the unpopular years. They're not trapped in time like a lot of music was. The drug taking turned more to downers in those years and the music became more "heavy" and serious (I associated the success of Black Sabbath and Zeppelin to quaalude and angel dust lovers).  The Beatles were always on a higher level, maybe moreso in countries other than the UK, so they were bullet proof. "Happy" music in 1969 was the realm of Tommy Roe and the Archies- for younger kids.  By 1971 I could impress all but my most jaded friends and acquaintances with Sunflower and Surf's Up and it was starting to show at their concerts, which never failed to knock people out.  I am the original source of the November 7, 1971 Georgetown University concert tape, and the very end (which has not been let out) is the crowd singing, stomping, and clapping  the falsetto ending of "Fun, Fun, Fun" after the Boys had left the stage for the last time- that's how good that show was.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 20/20 through Holland on: November 30, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
The term "pounded" has a few meanings in the States as well.
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Dragon sitting in ... on: November 09, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
I think it's one of those early 70's Capitol repackages, but I cant think of it right off.
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mono and Stereo Versions on: August 25, 2012, 05:42:24 AM
Aren't the 45 releases of other Friends and 20/20 tunes (Little Bird, Wake the World, etc) true mono mixes?
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Very curious about this on: August 06, 2012, 03:50:44 AM
I bought it in 1969 because I wanted to hear "Do It Again" in stereo.  Boy was I disappointed! I too did not have a Smile consciousness then-  the hype didn't start unit "Surf's Up".  "Cabinessence" was interesting and progressive, but I liked "I Went To Sleep" and "Time To Get Alone" just as much.
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: trouble with my copy of Sunflower (vinyl re-release) on: August 04, 2012, 03:57:07 AM
I have a US promo, US regular issue (stamped re-1), UK original, Dutch 1980 press on Caribou, The recent Capitol repress, and all the cd versions except the latest. To me, the bass has only sounded good on a US original, and the regular issue has a very slight edge over the white label promo.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Interesting story about the 1983 tour on: July 29, 2012, 05:50:02 AM
1982 was the James Watt influenced DC 4th show.  I was there and saw the Grass Roots and the Ventures.  The Beach Boys returned in 1984 with Mike commenting on all the "undesirable elements" in the audience.
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Picture request (Brian Wilson) on: June 25, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
That was the first new photo of Brian I saw after the Holland lp and I was taken aback at the apparent weight gain and the heavy beard.
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Little Girl I Once Knew on: June 22, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
He's referring to the original "Best of the Beach Boys Vol. 3" on vinyl from 1968.
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / Concert Reviews / Re: Show 30- Merriweather Post Pavilion-Columbia, MD-June 15th on: June 16, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
The show was 3 hours long- Darian's performance was a highlight- so what if 3 songs were sung by backup guys- there were plenty of Beach Boy vocals on all three.  I've been to over 30 shows over 40 years and this one was a joy.
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS - That's Why God Made The Radio SS member reviews on: June 06, 2012, 03:34:52 AM
I bought it yesterday having not heard one note except for about half of the title cut.  Going back to "Surf's Up" all BB's albums have had to grow on me, but I liked this one from the get-go. Good opening, great closing, couple of tunes I could take or leave, nothing I hated.  Mike doesn't sound too nasal.  I wished for more David Marks guitar, and a more guitar based tune like the early days.
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston Interview Sep 3, 1988 on: May 21, 2012, 03:22:07 AM
...are you sitting on an uncomfortable seat?...
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: what is I Get Around really about? on: May 15, 2012, 04:27:46 AM
Nobody's mentioned the Rich Sloan yearbook signed by Brian circa '59?  I thought you all were on top of this.  Brian calls Rich a "cool head/drafty toilet", so it's obviously a teenage expression of his.
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Child of Winter single on e-bay on: April 26, 2012, 04:08:26 AM
The Randy pressing is from 1977.  It was put out after that alternate take of Good Vibrations surfaced.  I don't think the Child of Winter 45 should be hard to find.  I have at least 3 permutations of it (Reprise label, Brother label, mono/stereo promo) that I got off ebay for less than $10 over the years.  For a record you could not find in the stores even when it was released (I tried ordering it from a big record chain in January 1975 and was told it was already not available) there seem to be a lot of stock copies around.
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What was the first song you heard from the Beach Boys? (the first you remember!) on: April 21, 2012, 05:42:09 AM
I vaguely remember hearing  "Surfin' Safari" first (because it's always seemed familiar) but I definitely remember "Surfin' USA" in '63.
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: European magazine with color Jasper Dailey photos. on: April 06, 2012, 05:55:04 AM
Eden Ahbez wrote "Nature Boy" for Nat King Cole back in the 1940's.  When long hair started being fashionable on males in the '60's, my parents told me- "...nothing new, we had a guy called "Nature Boy" who ran around with long hair in the '40's."  They were of course referring to Mr. Ahbez, who can be seen with Mr. Cole in some late '40's photos looking like Bunk Gardner in the Mothers...
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Artwork origin on: March 08, 2012, 04:37:11 AM
East coast- no tab/West coast-tab   only difference.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best vinyl versions of BB albums on: February 28, 2012, 05:42:08 AM
Wild Honey Stereo is not traditional duophonic.  It's the cheap "high end on one side, low end on the other side" phony stereo.  Regarding "Friends"- nothing beats my 1968 original, and I've got all the different releases.  The 1990 2-fer cd has the stereo channels narrowed, as does the vinyl that was issued from that series, so avoid that one.  The 1983 Capital recut lp is nice, but the 1968 has more dynamic range.
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys and the James Watt ban myth on: February 24, 2012, 04:45:45 AM
I went to all the 4th of July shows on the mall.  1980 was probably the best one, certainly the one with the most topless women.  Dennis was wild that day, jumping on Brian's piano to get the crowd to shout down Iran's taking of the US hostages.  The pot "smoke-in" was present,  not really near the stage but just close enough to the concert crowd that they could magically disappear if the authorities wanted to do something.  I don't think they ever did.  The Grass Roots were pretty good in 1982.  On their return in 1984, Mike opened the show thanking all the "undesirable elements" for showing up.  There were letters published in the Washington Post by both Mike and G. Gordon Liddy (!) protesting the 1983 misunderstanding. They played 1985 as well, but that was the least interesting show.
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How many issues are there of Pet Sounds? on: January 03, 2012, 06:11:08 AM
There is a stereo lp issue from July 1999.  Also Steve Hoffman remastered it again for Audio Fidelity a couple of years ago.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My Father Loves Pet Sounds/Smile Sessions...My Mom Loves All Summer Long/Today ? on: December 26, 2011, 08:41:17 AM
I don't think that women generally like the nuts and bolts of recorded music as much as men do.  My wife was an original Beatles fan club member, had all the British mono lps, eps, and singles, knows every lyric by heart, and loves the Beach Boys almost as much.  But she cannot listen to sessions and false starts and breakdowns and studio chatter without getting bored.  Even songs she loves, she just wants to hear the finished product.  Same with my sister- just play the hits.  I have one friend's wife who loves the Beatles Anthology series- but only complete songs she hadn't heard before- session stuff just does not interest her.  That said- my late father always liked the Beach Boys early car songs.  My mother liked Elvis...
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christian Love sings lead on GOK, and it sounds amazing! on: December 09, 2011, 05:06:18 AM
That clip made me want to see the Mike band for the first time in 20 years.
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Surf's Up on: November 24, 2011, 06:05:08 AM
Someone played me a session tape of Surf's Up where Brian is trying to establish a rhythm up in the booth and starts singing the verse briefly. What "collection" is that from?
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Is The Weird Fascination With The \ on: November 21, 2011, 04:56:52 AM
I've always been a bit disappointed with the Smile version of "Wind Chimes".  I think the bombastic part is too jarring.  I like the stoned approach on Smiley Smile.  There are at least real wind chimes on it.
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