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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson Partners With Mental Health Organization, Books Benefit Show Nov. 4 on: September 19, 2015, 04:37:52 PM
I'm glad he's doing this. Mental health is really important and Brian definitely knows that. He's the perfect person to support this.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pieces of Paper on: September 02, 2015, 04:23:29 PM
Since the late 80's, Bruce has had pieces of paper on his keyboard, about the size of an index card.
I'd assume they'd be setlist, but you wouldn't need a bunch, and he probably has one by his feet like the others.

What do you all think they are?

Instructions for microphone adjusting.  Smiley
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson To \ on: August 14, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
Even if he retires from touring, I'm sure he'll do shows every now and then. I'd say it's pretty hard on him to travel and stuff.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: August 11, 2015, 08:18:57 PM
Can someone point me in the direction to where I can download a good quality version of Somewhere Near Japan?  The videos on YouTube don't seem to have very good audio quality. 

Honestly, I have no idea. The single version is different than the album version. The album version is a lot easier to obtain I imagine.  There's a video of the single edit on YouTube that is the best quality I've heard.  I bet someone out there has the cd single.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do you hate Mike Love? on: August 06, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
I'd say Brian would have the best reason to hate him and yet he doesn't.  If Brian doesn't hate him, I don't think we should either. After all, most of us haven't even met the guy or know him on a personal basis.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do you hate Mike Love? on: August 05, 2015, 06:53:53 PM
When it comes to Mike saying irksome things, I either laugh it off or ignore it.  I like what he helped create and that's all I care about.  He isn't worthy of hate in my opinion.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sloop John B in Forrest Gump on: August 05, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
So good to see this again!  There were five different BB videos on one of the discs, here they all are as one video:  https://youtu.be/flJO6kh4T3s

The resolution on these were pretty low, 320x172.



Awesome stuff. Smiley.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do you hate Mike Love? on: August 05, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
I don't hate Mike at all. I think he's kinda funny, in an unintentional way. Smiley
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Settling the \ on: July 31, 2015, 11:17:57 AM
Sounds like 80s Brian to me.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unleash The Love - Mike Love 2005 album on: July 28, 2015, 01:02:37 PM
Anyone know the background to this?

When it was recorded? With whom? Why it was never released?

It's actually a pretty good album. I'm looking at the possibility of releasing it (I have previous, not just a fruitcake, I just released an LP of Micky Dolenz rarities http://www.amazon.co.uk/Singles-Collection-Limited-Vinyl-Booklet/dp/B00YJADBJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438110854&sr=8-1&keywords=dolenz+mgm ) and wondered why it hadn't come out before.

Any info would be gratefully appreciated. If it's too sensitive to share here, then do email iain@iainlee.com and class check out www.facebook.com/7aRecords

Thanks for your time


I saw that on facebook. It's nice to see you on here. Smiley I don't know why it's unreleased, but good luck.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015 on: July 26, 2015, 08:15:18 AM
They canceled the concert for tomorrow around my area. I was looking forward to it too. :/

Where, and when was the gig cancelled ?

Somerset, Kentucky. It was a free show at a car show. Somernites Cruise was the name of the show. They announced it back in May and I guess the deal fell through.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015 on: July 24, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
They canceled the concert for tomorrow around my area. I was looking forward to it too. :/
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Besides Carl & Dennis, what artists do you wish we're still with us? on: July 22, 2015, 08:28:46 PM
I really wish Rick Nelson was still with us. It's sad he left this world, but his legacy lives on.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Come Back To L.A. on: July 15, 2015, 04:08:27 PM
Anyone have any thoughts about MIU, LA Light Album, KTSA, 15 Big Ones or 20/20?  Very curious.

Not completely cohesive, but they rate from good to decent. There are good songs on them, some guilty pleasures, and some crappy ones too. 15 Big Ones has the least amount of songs I like. It's just a bit too rough.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What If Murry Wilson Became the Beatles ' Manager in 1967 thread on Hoffman Boar on: July 11, 2015, 06:25:11 PM
All you need is love doh dobi dobey do
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / What the hell rhymes with Bronco? - Good Country music ain't dead on: June 19, 2015, 11:50:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMkhsamX-2I


Know any good new country songs?  Smiley
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How often do you think about The Beach Boys? on: June 18, 2015, 01:09:54 AM
I think way more than I talk and The Beach Boys are heavily featured in my mental soundtrack.  Smiley
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Dixie Cups and ‘Chapel of Love’ on: June 18, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
Cool story. It's interesting how things come together like that. Very fascinating. I had no idea about the Red Bird record label either. I always loved seeing the red bird with a guitar while scrounging for records.  Smiley
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Would you rather have dinner with Brian & Mike or Carl & Dennis? on: June 17, 2015, 11:52:18 PM
Al not invited? Shocked

He's meditating. Smiley
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy Soundtrack on: June 15, 2015, 02:19:38 PM
I know this is slightly off topic, but this gets to the heart of what we are talking about. Don't let the Brad Elliott by line throw you. It really is good reading. I asked for this back in 2009 and of course the guys on the board came through!

Here is the article in question, Bob. Makes for interesting reading!



Sifting Sands: Ten Years Of Harmony

Brad Elliott

For most Beach Boys fans the recent CBS compilation, Ten Years Of Harmony, was a welcome addition to their collection. The handsomely packaged set included not only several single mixes and edits previously unavailable in album format, but also a previously unreleased single mix ("School Days"), and two tracks which had never seen the light of day in any form ("San Miguel" and "Sea Cruise").

The assembling of Ten Years Of Harmony however, proved to be no easy task. CBS executives spent more than a year working to release the package.  In the course of that year the album underwent several major revisions and countless minor changes.  To some of those involved, the final package was a severe disappointment.

The idea of a compilation album was first proposed in the fall of 1980.  As originally planned, Ten Years’ Harmony, an original title, would have been only one disc.  The target release date was January, 1981.  Early on, CBS pegged "Come Go With Me" as the album's first single.  Also scheduled for inclusion were "San Miguel", the vetoed mix of "School Days" and, at Bruce Johnston's insistence, "The Lord's Prayer". ("That's gonna go in the compilation album",  Bruce said last February.  "We're gonna lease that from Capitol. Lease it back and put it on, because it's never been on an album").

Before a track lineup could be formed, however, the album's release was postponed to May and then to September.

Among the group members, Bruce at least was thinking about the track lineup.  "The compilation album, if we get it out, will be, on the fan level, the best album they've ever had.  Because it's gonna cover all the period from, say, ‘68, ‘69 on.  It's gonna get the best of everything, like "Til I Die," "Disney Girls," "Sail On Sailor," "San Miguel".

Bruce’s most ambitious thoughts concerned the Smile tapes.  "We're gonna collage the Smile album in this compilation.  We're gonna go through the Smile album and just take little, sections of the tunes we have and put it out as a kind of sampler of the Smile album.  We're just going to skim the Smile tapes and make a beautiful six minute collage".  He was quick to add, "Brian doesn't know this".

CBS kept the compilation album on its list of projected September releases, and in July received from Caribou records a master for the record:

Side One: "The Trader", "Deidre", "Long Promised Road", "The Night Was So Young", "Sail On Sailor", "Come Go With Me".

Side Two: "Marcella", "Surf's Up", "Cool Cool Water", "Don't Go Near The Water", "Talk To Me", "Til I Die".

CBS executives were dumbfounded.  This was not the record they had expected.

Within a few short weeks, CBS' questions were answered. A CBS promotion man mentioned the tape to Bruce Johnston, who expressed complete surprise at the existence of a track lineup.  The Beach Boys, Bruce insisted, had made no such thing. It quickly became evident that Caribou president James William Guercio had thrown the tape together, reportedly because the Beach Boys had seemed in no hurry to assemble a lineup.

In a subsequent conference telephone call, Bruce, Mike Love, Alan Jardine, and CBS’ two in-house Beach Boy fans brainstormed a rough lineup for a two-record set.  Agreed upon were:

"Add Some Music", "Roller Skating Child", "Disney Girls", "It's A Beautiful Day", "California Saga: California", "Marcella", "Rock And Roll Music", "Goin' On", "It's OK", "Cool Cool Water", "San Miguel", "Good Timin’", "Sail On Sailor", either "Wouldn't It Be Nice"(live) or "Darlin’" (live), "Lady Lynda", "The Trader", "Come Go With Me", "Deidre", "Mona", "Don't Go Near The Water", "Surf's Up", "She's Got Rhythm", "Honkin’ Down The Highway", "’Til I Die", "Long Promised Road", and either "River Song", or "You And I" (both from Dennis' Pacific Ocean Blue).

Suggested by the CBS executives, but vetoed by the three Beach Boys, were the studio version of "We Got Love", "Child Of Winter", and the unreleased single mix of "School Days".

However, the Beach Boys suggested several ‘bonus’ tracks which they would be interested in including.  If the tapes could be found, they suggested including a song from the encore (with Elton John) of the group's June 3, 1972 London concert, and "Jumpin’ Jack Flash" from the Washington, D.C. show of the 1975 Beachago tour.  There was also talk of the group making a quick trip into the studio to cut "Back In The USSR".

By late September the contents were firming up.  The tentative lineup at that time was:

Side One: "Add Some Music To Your Day", "Roller Skating Child", "Disney Girls", "It's A Beautiful Day", "California Saga: California" (preferably the single version, if the master tape could be found), "Marcella".

Side Two: "Rock And Roll Music", "Goin’ On", "It's OK", "Cool Cool Water" (the single edit, hopefully), "San Miguel", "Good Timin’", "Sail On Sailor".

Side Three: "Darlin’" (live), "Lady Lynda", "Sea Cruise", "The Trader", "Mona", "Don't Go Near The Water" (or possibly "Feel Flows"), "Surf's Up".

Side Four: "Come Go With Me", "Deidre" (or maybe "This Whole World"), "She's Got Rhythm", "River Song", "Long Promised Road", "Honkin’ Down The Highway", "Til I Die".

As the cover art was worked up and liner notes drafted, David Leaf, author of The Beach Boys And The California Myth was asked for his advice.  He submitted another track proposal:

Side One: "Surf's Up", "Cool Cool Water" (45 edit), "This Whole World", "Add Some Music To Your Day", "Disney Girls", "Feel Flows", "’Til I Die".

Side Two: "Long Promised Road", "San Miguel", "Marcella", "Sail On Sailor", "The Trader", "California Saga: California" -(45 mix).

Side Three: "Good Timin’", "Goin’ On", "Sweet Sunday Kind Of Love", "Matchpoint Of Our Love", "The Night Was So Young", "Baby Blue", "Lady Lynda".

Side Four: "Come Go With Me", "It's OK", "Rock And Roll Music", "It's A Beautiful Day", "Sea Cruise", "She's Got Rhythm", "Roller Skating Child".

Although Leaf's grouping of tracks somewhat chronologically and by tempo was not adopted, his efforts were directly responsible for the inclusion, on the next CBS lineup, of "This Whole World" and "Feel Flows" instead of "Mona" and "Honkin' Down The Highway".  Also added, at the insistence of CBS, was the single mix of "School Days".

Approximately a month before the album's release, Carl Wilson went into the group's tape library to find the master tapes for the twenty eight songs.  Luck was with him and all the masters were located, including those for the "California Saga" and "Cool Cool Water" singles.  Also, it was at that time that the compilation's last track, "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" was added, bringing the number of included songs to twenty nine, and finalizing the track lineup.

One last problem remained: the inner gatefold.  The photo of the group, taken backstage at the 1977 Central Park concert, already had been selected.  At issue was a proposal to “doctor” Bruce into it.  Carl put his foot down. Bruce was not a Beach Boy on a par with the others, and should not be included in the main photo.  If Bruce wanted his photo on the album, Carl stated, he could have a small 'mug' shot. Bruce decided that if he wasn't wanted in the main photo, he didn't want to be pictured on the album.  He is not.

Carl also insisted that individual production credits be given, prompting a few minor squabbles in places (most notably whether Brian would be credited for tracks from the MIU album: he is on only "Wontcha Come Out Tonight," which he wrote and sang.  At about the same time, the planned liner notes were shelved and replaced by the song lyrics.  That decision was probably CBS’.  The record was due for release immediately, and another squabble, which the liner notes likely would have generated, might have caused further delay.

Despite the many problems in assembling and releasing Ten Years Of Harmony, CBS is pleased with the package, and already is considering a one-record Ten Years Of Harmony, Vol. 2. for release next fall.



Damn.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Come Back To L.A. on: June 11, 2015, 03:02:07 PM
Did they even finish it? It'd be cool to hear what they actually got done. Sounds like they at least got the instrumental part close to being finished.  Brian sounds pretty good.  Sounded like he was getting part of his voice back.
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Beach Boys Demo Reimaginings on: May 18, 2015, 07:11:19 PM
Sounds great. Smiley
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: May 17, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
https://youtu.be/lOgJYJvA-LA

From the soundtrack to the movie Mortdecai. The soundtrack is very sixtiesish. This song is fucking amazing imo. Smiley
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Timeline for BW & JT NPP Songs on: May 03, 2015, 05:32:30 PM
Thanks Wirestone, that's more info than I had on the birth of some of these songs.

I'm really interested myself!

Here's Joe on Our Special Love: http://www.examiner.com/article/inside-the-recording-process-of-brian-wilson-s-no-pier-pressure

Quote
You’re right that it was written with a group concept in mind. The chorus was written at one point back when we were still thinking that there might be a second Beach Boys album. However the opening bridge and then the verse were written much later. As it turns out, Brian was finishing a brief tour in the Midwest. Jeff Foskett and I spent a long night with Brian eating our favorite pizza and drinking maybe a few too many Diet Cokes on the bus while it was sitting in the parking lot of Brian’s hotel. Brian kept switching the satellite radio between Malt Shop Memories and The Sixties Channel. That night it seemed like they were playing more than the usual share of Tommy James and The Shondells and The Chi-Lites…two of our favorite groups. Brian was feeling very inspired and we decided to take the bus to my studio, which was only a few miles from the hotel. It was there that we came up with the doo-wop harmonies that became the verse.

Don Was on GYHTBT: http://radio.com/2015/04/07/brian-wilson-interview-no-pier-pressure-lana-del-rey-frank-ocean-don-was/

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“It’s a deep song,” Was adds. “He was writing about the wild times in the ’70s. [Wilson’s co-producer] Joe [Thomas] told me this: they would be driving to the studio from Beverly Hills and they would pass the Roxy, and Brian would be telling stories about it, and then said, ‘I guess you had to be there.'”

Odd that a Sixties channel would be playing any Chi-lites songs, let alone "more than the usual share" since the Chi-lites chart successes didn't happen until the Seventies, and they were barely a recording entity at all during the Sixties. But, accepting that this quote is true and accurate, then 'Our Special Love' was inspired by what? 'Have You Seen Her'?


Most of the time they only play 60s, but on Cousin Brucie 's show on Saturday, they play 50s-70s.
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The wild one-word story on: May 01, 2015, 12:21:40 PM
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