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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 23, 2020, 03:59:15 PM
A bit of interesting information that a few people have pointed out. Some of use people who upload rarities and remixes to Youtube have begun to receive copyright claims for a few distinct tracks.

So far these tracks have included:
  • My Solution [Track and Backing Vocals] (I swear this is real)
  • Good Time [2019 Mix]
  • Surf's Up [Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix]

Seems like some things are moving forwards.

Others that have been blocked... (I'll edit this as I find new ones)
ĎTil I Die (Piano Demo)
Tears in the Morning (Track & Backing Vocals)
My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals)
Big Sur
Susie Cincinnati (2019 Mix)
Add Some Music to Your Day (A Capella)
H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (2019 Mix)
Sound Of Free (1970 Single Mix, 2019 Master)
Take A Load Off Your Feet (Alternate Vocals Mix)
Back Home (Demo)
This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix)
Medley: All Of My Love/Ecology
Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)
Forever (2019 A Cappella Mix)
Seasons In The Sun
Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) (A Capella)
Our Sweet Love (Track & Backing Vocals Mix)
Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals)

I didn't even know any of these were actually up on YouTube.  Now I'm bummed I never got to hear any of them.  :-(
There's a brief (claimed) Til I Die piano demo up, but it's extremely distorted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxd4Nr-i7IQ
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Trump fundraiser in Orange County featuring Mike and 'The Beach Boys' on: October 18, 2020, 08:44:51 PM
Maybe we can get trump to ask Mike to release the Feel Flows box set.
An executive order would be nice.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 09, 2020, 06:15:51 AM
Don't know if this has been pointed out, but Van Dyke Parks was asked (not by me) on Twitter (seeing as he was key to getting the BBs signed to Warner) about the box set. Van Dyke replied that he had no knowledge of it. I posted a link to my first article.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 09, 2020, 06:13:21 AM
Smiley Smile Forums: Mr. Capitol?

Capitol Records: I am extraordinarily busy, Smiley.

Smiley Smile Forums: I just wanted to ask about the Feel Flows set, the 50th Anniversary boxset for the Beach Boys. When do we get it?

Capitol Records: You don't

Smiley Smile Forums: Why not?

Capitol Records: We're only releasing 3 tracks.

Smiley Smile Forums: What 3 tracks? You have to release all the songs, right guys?

Capitol Records: Wrong, sir! WRONG! Under the US Copyright Act signed in 1976, it states quite clearly that all copyright won't expire IF - and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy! - "Copyright in sound recordings and television broadcasts is not calculated with reference to the life of an author. " et cetera, et cetera..."Copyright in sound recordings expires 50 years from the end of the year in which the recording was made UNLESS THE RECORDING IS PUBLISHED DURING THAT 50 YEAR PERIOD!! It's ALL there! Black and white, clear as crystal! You PIRATED Beach Boys songs! You UPLOADED them to Youtube, which now has to be claimed and shut down, so you get... NOTHING!!! YOU LOSE!! GOOD DAY, SIR!!!

Smiley Smile Forums: You're a crook. You're a liar and swindler! That's what you are! How can you do a thing like this?! Music that will change the way the Beach Boys are viewed as a musical entity, and then you smash  all our hopes to pieces?! YOU'RE AN INHUMAN MONSTER!!

Capitol Records: I SAID "GOOD DAY!!!"
I look forward to that ride in the glass elevator that offers a great aerial view of the Capitol Tower.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail Plane Song (2012 version) appreciation thread on: October 06, 2020, 10:08:02 AM
My favorite aspect of it is that when Dolby Atmos is activated on my Samsung smartphone, it has quite the (vertical) surround effect.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian, Carolyn Williams, and 1979-1982 on: October 04, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
The second time I met Brian was at Tower Sunset. He was out of it. Carolyn was with him. He was slowly making his way through the store, his eyes fixed on the promotional mobiles hanging from the ceiling. I walked up to them and reintroduced myself to him. He did not look down, he did not say anything, he just held out his hand. Sad day.
That second to last sentence is exactly the way he was when I met Brian outside Rockefeller Center in late July 2001.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 03, 2020, 08:21:05 PM
HeyJude - it seems like you know what the 'thing' in question is - is there any reason you're obliged not to share it?

Yes. Same reason most anybody would not be able to reveal certain details/sources, etc.

But I've continued to mention that I feel comfortable saying that, for the purposes of advocating for this set, it doesn't matter. Knowing the whole back story wouldn't change anything about the main point right now being to continue to let everybody and anybody know that we want this set and that it should come out.

I'm getting a strange feeling reading all these latest posts that someone in the group is ill.

No,  nothing to do with illness.
Good.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 03, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
HeyJude - it seems like you know what the 'thing' in question is - is there any reason you're obliged not to share it?

Yes. Same reason most anybody would not be able to reveal certain details/sources, etc.

But I've continued to mention that I feel comfortable saying that, for the purposes of advocating for this set, it doesn't matter. Knowing the whole back story wouldn't change anything about the main point right now being to continue to let everybody and anybody know that we want this set and that it should come out.

I'm getting a strange feeling reading all these latest posts that someone in the group is ill.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 22, 2020, 10:56:26 AM
I'm mentioning the FF box set again in my next music column, with the updates we all know about, including the new Wikipedia entries.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 20, 2020, 05:31:30 PM
To get this somewhat back on-topic, isn't it interesting to think about how much more fun and interesting and exciting it would be if, say, a set and track listing had been announced by now and we were having fun speculating about the contents of the set?

Could your source reveal any small details about track listing? E.g. I think it was Adam Marsland who, in the run up to Smile Sessions, revealed that Alan Boyd had let him know of a then unrevealed "woah" inclusion in that set. It turned out to be the Wild Honey era Surf's Up recording if I recall.

I would generally agree with Donny that I prefer threads to follow an organic path and flow freely into any related tangents, unless things go way off topic, rather than separating those out into  separate threads, but it looks like we might be in a minority. But if the function of this thread is just to keep the Feel Flows release on the agenda, until there is new news, what more can we do here than go round in circles with the same group of voices just saying we would like to see it released?

My own fan knowledge/scholarship tells me you could probably look at that old "Brother Rarities Proposed Bonus Tracks" set of discs from 2000 to get just an inkling of an idea of some of the stuff that could be on the set.

I'd wager we'd get one or more iteration of "This Whole World" including that extra long backing track on that "Brother Rarities" test disc. The demo and alternate of "'Til I Die" would seem likely. The alternate "Add Some Music To Your Day."

I know, these are all obvious.

I was going to say we should use that to create a bare minimum list/discussion of what could come out. And I plan to edit that into this post in a second. EDIT: See three posts down.

The effort to release Feel Flows has been mentioned on Wikipedia. My article is their source. Word being spread!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_Flows

Thanks Joel!! Your article is also used as a source for this info on Wikiís (main) BB article/page as well!!
Wow!!! There's a "further reading" mention in the Wikipedia article on the Surf's Up album as well.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 19, 2020, 04:20:45 PM
The effort to release Feel Flows has been mentioned on Wikipedia. My article is their source. Word being spread!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_Flows
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 17, 2020, 08:34:05 PM
Great work Joel!
Thanks! The word must be spread!
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 17, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Never heard of this publication, but at least it's something. Summarizes the info collected here. It popped up as the top result of a Google News search for "Beach Boys Feel Flows". Also, when beginning to type "Beach Boys Fe" into the regular Google search, the top autofill it comes up with is "beach boys feel flows box set". More people beyond just the board must be wondering about it.

https://www.thesuburban.com/arts_and_entertainment/joel-goldenberg-free-feel-flows/article_ee41e743-0091-53a3-8b28-2221dff42b8c.html
To fill you in, I write for the largest English weekly newspaper in the Canadian province of Quebec, which serves a large part of Montreal and its northern neighbor Laval. The article is online-only, but our print version, founded March 1, 1963, has 160,000 circulation.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 17, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
Never heard of this publication, but at least it's something. Summarizes the info collected here. It popped up as the top result of a Google News search for "Beach Boys Feel Flows". Also, when beginning to type "Beach Boys Fe" into the regular Google search, the top autofill it comes up with is "beach boys feel flows box set". More people beyond just the board must be wondering about it.

https://www.thesuburban.com/arts_and_entertainment/joel-goldenberg-free-feel-flows/article_ee41e743-0091-53a3-8b28-2221dff42b8c.html

Joel Goldenberg is actually a poster here. Hopefully it's just the start of publications talking about this. Thanks for posting, Cork! And thanks Joel for writing this up!
You're welcome!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / This 1976 Brian interview is hilarious on: September 02, 2020, 04:35:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYiT_opaUsM
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 15, 2020, 06:41:31 PM
The idea that the Feel Flows box would change the public perception of who the Beach Boys are and what they represent has me thinking, how would Mike and Bruce have to respond to this? Would it mean a return to guru robes for Mike (and showing his bald head on stage)? Would all the surfing, cars, girls songs be replaced with the likes of Be Still, Meant For You, Country Air, Wake the World, All I Wanna Do, This Whole World, Long Promised Road, All This is That, and the full California Saga? Would Bruce actually sit at a grand piano, in long pants, playing audible parts?
No more beach balls in the crowds; pass the incense and peppermints instead.
No more state fair and Seaworld gigs; instead, they would play colleges and coffee houses.
Instead of selling t-shirts and baseball caps, the souvenir stand would feature organic vege-tables, herbal supplements, and copies of Whole Earth News.


And tubes of Mama Says organic toothpaste. Also, the concert stage could be a replica of the Radiant Radish.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 14, 2020, 07:33:15 PM
Maybe Mike will say yes if he can precede each track with "welllllllllllllllllll." Grin
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 10, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
Would love to hear a stereo mix of Sound of Free.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 05, 2020, 06:30:49 PM
The Rolling Stones box set in question is the Goat's Head Soup deluxe edition. I have heard many Stones outtakes over the years in less than great fidelity, and BB outtakes are 1,000 times more interesting.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 05, 2020, 02:08:43 PM
Maybe a stupid question. What do we think will be included in the box set that hasn't previously been officially released? What are people most excited about?
Clean version of My Solution plus alternates.
Clean version of the original Big Sur.
Brian demo of 'Til I Die
Positive lyric version of 'Til I Die.
Vocal-only versions of Sunflower, Surf's up tracks
Backing tracks of tracks.
Loop de Loop as done in the early 1970s
Soulful Old Man Sunshine with Carl's "Shunshine" fixed  Grin
Every version possible of Break Away
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 04, 2020, 02:45:58 PM
I sent very polite tweets to Brian, Mike and Al begging them to ensure the prompt release of the set.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 02, 2020, 06:27:48 PM
 Some thoughts:
1.Maybe I should tell Mike on Twitter that the original version of Big Sur is the best Beach Boys song of the 1970s, and we need a version with pristine fidelity.
2. Mike wrote in his book of tension between Bruce and the Wilson brothers in 1970-71, to the point of putting up a "No Wilsons Allowed" sign on the studio door. Could there be an issue with the liner notes regarding Jack Rieley?
3. Maybe the delay is all over whether to include My Solution and Seasons In the Sun. Grin
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dreamer: The Making of Dennis Wilsonís Pacific Ocean Blue on: July 02, 2020, 04:22:05 PM
I don't see the sense in him not making an ebook. Why put years of work into this thing only to not let people pay money to read it?
Agreed. I made the same request of Endless Summer Quarterly ó received a nice reply, said they prefer "old school."
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bobby Figueroa on new episode of Surf's Up: A Beach Boys Podcast Safari on: June 22, 2020, 07:00:19 PM
Thanks Joel. I'm a Montreal native as well. Another I thing I saw after the interview was that Bobby thought the '79 Montreal Forum show came after the group's trip to Japan. According to Andrew G. Doe's website, it preceded the Japanese tour by three weeks.
I saw you at the Paragraphe bookstore where you did a Q and A on the 50 Sides book. I asked your reaction to a music magazine (I think the NME or maybe MOJO) choosing Surf's Up as the best Beach Boys song.

Hey Joel. I remember. Thanks for coming to that. I have a photo from the event that you're in but I can't find it at the moment.
Cool!
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that remind you of specific Beach Boys songs on: June 22, 2020, 06:59:42 PM
C'mon guys, the obvious one- Abba's On and On and On and Do It Again.
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