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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 28, 2017, 08:23:25 PM
Looking around, I stopped by the Birthday thread.  What a hoot!  Read the how to embed info by Bob.  My youtube url is different to the "www.youtube.watch=?"  you guys use in Europe. 

-  Mine looks like: https://youtu.be/11111G222.

Do I just type in everything after the / (slash)?  I could just practice and see what happens.  Might mess up a post... Wink  Too bad youtube isn't more universal with this.  Surely why some of
our videos don't work from other places in the world.

Anyway, thanks for the link.  I've read that thread with interest before.  Lots of great 60's videos/tracks.  I've had the "Laugh Laugh" post bookmarked to add a comment for a while.  All I need
is more time to get busy.  Love the Rockin' Berries.  Ivy League, too.  I have some old UK vinyl comps full of those incredible  songs.  Not sure if I saw a number by Ms. Black...

Will be commenting soon on the Three Dog thread.
102  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 27, 2017, 10:21:09 PM
John, I hope you can get the mods to do something about the Hall of Shame.  Wheels roll slow sometimes...

I stopped by Smiley tonight looking for where to find your Three Dog Night thread.  Couldn't get it to come up in a search.  When you get it done post a link, here.

I see some posters are able to embed videos.  Does that function still work?
103  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Captain Beefheart thread? on: February 27, 2017, 10:07:09 PM
Interestingly, there's talk at Hoffman of a documentary about the Atlanta show. But even there they're saying that Beefheart never made it. You'd think they'd check up rather than repeat online information parrot-fashion...   

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/1970-atlanta-pop-festival-new-documentary-coming.371050/



I read that thread a while back.  2014 and someone is wondering what songs were in the Allman Brothers set...  One of the few recordings that got an official release.  That was in 2003.  So why is anybody wondering in 2014?

This is all part of the confusion about Atlanta Pop 1970.  Another cat is claiming Grand Funk Railroad was the main headliner.  That just wasn't so.  They played on the last night, but were not the last to play.  Another poster said that GFR released a live album from the festival.  They did release a live album from some concerts taped in Florida in June 1970, the only thing from the Atlanta Festival about that record is a picture inside the gate-fold sleeve.  The OP talks about seeing the documentary with few full songs, and most of the acts with short clips - and not the acts I would like to see.  I want Poco, Spirit, Procol Harum, Terry Reid...the list goes on....  I don't think the film will ever come out, but I also hope I'm wrong.  If they have full sets, then release them.  The clearances couldn't be that hard to get.   There is other stuff by Poco and Spirit from the same time/era around.  Check youtube.  It's just not the Atlanta festival.   It's more likely they didn't get the full sets, and that the tapes are in rough shape.  Those limited showings were years ago now.  What's taking so long?

I don't know what else to say about Captain Beefheart being there.  I got to the festival on Thursday morning.  There was music going at the free stage in the woods late into the night.  I set up camp in that area.  The music got started about noon on Friday on the main stage.  I didn't get settled into a spot near the stage until the late afternoon.  It was very hot, and most people wandered in and out of the shadier areas 'til towards sundown.  Standing in the full sun would get you tired, quick.  As I said, I didn't know Beefheart's music at all.  I believed the people around me who said it was the Captain's band.  There was over half a dozen acts that I was not familiar with, including Mott the Hoople - I had never heard of them before.  I thought they were pretty good.  It might be a good idea for me to write about some of my better memories, maybe put them on that SHF thread to give the community a thrill.  I'm working on a Johnny Winter And post.  Johnny's teaming up with Rick from the McCoys was a big highlight.  I think that record by And was Johnny's best album.  They put out a live album that gave you a taste of how great they were.

Of the few places I've found where there are some decent tales of both Atlanta festivals (1969 and 1970), is a facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/96824579391/      It's a closed group, but if you sign up, they will let you see what's on offer with-in a day.  Lots of links to interesting stuff.  It's much better than that SHF thread.
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 25, 2017, 10:46:32 AM
If you're going to buy something, go for Celebrate: The Three Dog Night Story, 1965-1975 (43 tracks).  That gives you some of the "before they were T.D.N." tracks, including Danny's great "Roses and Rainbows" and "Funny How Love Can Be" (the 1965 Ivy League hit -you might remember).  Has "Time To Get Alone" by Redwood.  Then all the single mixes (when different to the Lp version), some of the best Lp tracks, and the rare b-sides - many of the single mixes in mono.  The booklet has liner notes by David Leaf and extensive track-by-track notes from the band, including who sings lead.

Best album, just one?  It's a toss-up between Suitable for Framing (2nd) and It Ain't Easy (3rd).  The first four, 1968-1970 are must own, so add the first (self-titled album) and their fourth, Naturally.  After that it's hit-and-miss, according to what songs they pick to sing.  The best album of the rest is Coming Down Your Way (1975) - the last one with Danny.  They went all out and did a great job on song selection.  I love them all except the last one, American Pastime (1976), due mostly to what songs they picked.  It's just Chuck and Cory (Danny on only one track).  It was over if that was the best they could do...  Chuck was still singing well, but he was definitely In trouble with drug use.  So was Jimmy.  Jimmy was in such bad shape he had to be replaced for the last two albums.  He got better, and returned for the Danny and Cory version of the group.

They had a great live show.  I saw many tours from 1969 on, Chuck solo and Two Dog Night (Danny and Cory with Mike on guitar and Jimmy on Organ).  The 1972 tour was released as Around the World With... in 1973.  Not just hits either - plenty of deep cuts.  Some more material was released more recently from the same era, but left off the live album - even more deep cuts.  Some great VHS only shows like SoundStage (with all three, but Skip instead of Jimmy on keyboards) and Danny and Cory did DVD stuff that included newly recorded studio tracks (with Jimmy and Michael).  I looked into it a bit this morning.  Danny has found someone to replace Cory, and is still working on some sort of album.  I got that from Wikipedia, so trust that info or not.  Wikipedia is wrong so often, relying on punters like us to fill in many holes.  That brings in much speculation - you know, like all the message boards do...
105  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 25, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
"You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"
106  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 24, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
Got it!  Works from my side.

From my side too. Yikes! That was a B above the treble stave! I'm don't know who's who in TDN----who sang lead on that one, Will?

Believe it or not, the guy who usually sings the smooth baritone numbers like "Easy to be Hard", Chuck Negron.  Danny usually did the falsetto on songs like "Liar", but Cory could do it when he wanted to.  They all had extraordinary voices.

The last time I saw Chuck, as a solo with only the old Dog Night original drummer (Danny and Cory had the organist and guitar player), he had lost most of his lower register.  That happened to Gordon Lightfoot, too.  All they both still have is a high voice.  Gordon and Chuck used to sing like velvet wrapping around your ears.

Now there can be no more Three Dog Night.  I think Danny is trying to carry on, but he has not played in my area since Cory died.  Danny and Cory could recreate the sound of the old band, because the organ and guitar was such an important part of their sound.  They did some fine recordings and a wonderful live DVD as Two Dog Night by adding a third singer (who also played bass) to make it okay to still call it Three Dog Night.  But original organist Jimmy's dead as well.  It's too bad they could never work out their differences.  The last record was made in 1983.  They couldn't keep Chuck clean long enough to record a full album on what was a reunion in '83 (they broke up in 1975).  It's a Jungle was an Ep.  Well worth checking out.  I'll check later if anybody has put it on youtube.  As far as I know, it was only on vinyl.  Glad I have a copy.
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 23, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
Got it!  Works from my side.
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 23, 2017, 12:51:06 PM
Let me try again...    https://youtu.be/WdrbGocRPUk
109  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 23, 2017, 12:46:29 PM
I remember Shirley & Co.!  That song always reminded me of this rave up:  https://youtu.be/WdrbGocRPUk

Oh, that voice!  "Good Feelin' (1957)" if the link hits a snag.

Wait?  What happened to your post?  I have an idea, let me go look...
110  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Captain Beefheart thread? on: February 22, 2017, 09:38:15 PM
Hey John,  You sure like bumpin' this cat.  I've tried over the years to get into his bands, but it just never worked.  I even saw them live in July 1970 at the Atlanta Pop Festival.  At that time I didn't know who they were, and had not heard any of the albums.  It was in the afternoon.  I was about three-hundred yards from the stage, still moving about, eating and stuff Wink.  I didn't get to my fixed area for the night 'til about 5pm, always as close to the stage as possible.  So I wasn't paying that much attention.  I thought it sounded fairly noisy to be honest.  In a nicer way, you might call it wailing.  Lots of harp and gruff singing.

After I became an xtc fan, I tried again.  Andy said that he had been very influential, but I couldn't hear that.  So many people talk highly of his music, I tried one last time a few years ago.  Bought Safe As Milk.  I think it's good for what it is.  I only listened to it a few times.  It's just not going to grow on me.  I do like Tom Waits very very much (who can get pretty noisy himself).  That's about as close to what he sounds like as I can get.  So it's not the gruff vocals.  It's the songs.

You and the captain are probably going to jump all over me to listen again.  Maybe.  I did play your youtube links.  They work in America!

Hi cap'n. I was under the impression that you were a fan (hence your username). No problem of course----as you say in your other post, to each their own.   
 
I looked for your Atlanta date for a possible set list and according to all reports Beefheart's performance was cancelled. Is that possible?

I saw him twice, first in the Albert Hall (London) in '72 with the Spotlight Kid lineup----definitely my all-time favourite concert. The next one was in Amsterdam in '75 or '76 when he was regrouping after that Di Martino business, and he was just feeling his way forward again. And he was pissed, I regret to say. But that London concert----goodness gracious...
It's possible to me since I was there.  I've read that they weren't before.  I've read first hand reports that they were there.  I can't produce a set list for any of the acts.  Wish I could.  Nobody was walking around taking notes.  I only started doing that in the late 70's, and only for certain shows.  I mostly just tried to have fun listening to the music.  Some of my favorite bands were there.  I remember many of the songs that Poco, Spirit, Procol Harum, Terry Reid and others played - ones whose music I owned.  Most of them played new material.  These festivals were huge events.  Like Woodstock, there was over 300,000 people.  Very stoned people.  I was just out of High School the month before, and from a very straight place.  Northern Louisiana is very quite.  The town I grew up in was about 25,000.  Drugs were something you heard about on Tv or in the newspaper.  I had a fairly clear head that week-end.  It was eye-opening, tho.  I was seeing a lot for the first time.

Researchers use other peoples memories in cases like these.  They use signed contracts, hotel receipts and pay stubs.  But much of it was cash exchanges with no records.  I bet you've seen the Isle of Wight film.  That shows what a mess these big festival were.  I own a few DVDs of some of the acts - Jethro Tull, Who, ELP, Hendrix and the Moody Blues.  I have loads more from that week-end than I've even heard about from Atlanta.  I've studied Atlanta Pop myself over the years.  Most of the people who had cameras took pictures of the crowd of people, I haven't seen too many of the acts on stage.  Using the posters of the order in which acts played, and the day they performed differ from account to account.  I believe Beefheart played on Friday afternoon.  One of the first few acts.  As I said, I was pretty far away, but folks around me knew who he was.  I know a lot of it was recorded, and some film was made.  Have you heard the tapes or seen more than the Hendrix footage?  Why don't they release them?  I've never even heard boots.  They released an album, but there wasn't much on it.  A few songs got to the public.  Most of Hendrix's set came out last year.  Gives people something new to study.  Some of that was on an old 90's laserdisc released only in Japan.  I saw it, but I balked at the $80 price tag and passed on buying it.

Okay.  Enough for the night.  Let me go see what's happening at other spots in the cyber-world.
111  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Captain Beefheart thread? on: February 22, 2017, 09:34:28 AM
Hey John,  You sure like bumpin' this cat.  I've tried over the years to get into his bands, but it just never worked.  I even saw them live in July 1970 at the Atlanta Pop Festival.  At that time I didn't know who they were, and had not heard any of the albums.  It was in the afternoon.  I was about three-hundred yards from the stage, still moving about, eating and stuff Wink.  I didn't get to my fixed area for the night 'til about 5pm, always as close to the stage as possible.  So I wasn't paying that much attention.  I thought it sounded fairly noisy to be honest.  In a nicer way, you might call it wailing.  Lots of harp and gruff singing.

After I became an xtc fan, I tried again.  Andy said that he had been very influential, but I couldn't hear that.  So many people talk highly of his music, I tried one last time a few years ago.  Bought Safe As Milk.  I think it's good for what it is.  I only listened to it a few times.  It's just not going to grow on me.  I do like Tom Waits very very much (who can get pretty noisy himself).  That's about as close to what he sounds like as I can get.  So it's not the gruff vocals.  It's the songs.

You and the captain are probably going to jump all over me to listen again.  Maybe.  I did play your youtube links.  They work in America!
112  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Cats on: February 21, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
I always thought of her name as Mare-e.
113  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 20, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
"You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"
114  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 19, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
"I need You" all to stop pickin' on Paul's best songs on this album.  That would not be "Yesterday" - go pick on that.
115  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 13, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
"You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"  I love "Tell Me What You See" -guess it's a goner.
116  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the \ on: February 11, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
Hey Mari, what are those last two albums? It's easier to ask than to start hunting about...
I made the last one, Springtime Carnivore's debut self-titled album, linkable. Click on the album to listen.

I forgot to do that with Swans's To Be Kind. however. I revisited some songs last night (the shorter ones, because that's easier). I don't know if Bubs has already convinced you to listen to them.

I'm gonna have to click on your linkables more often.  I thought it was just a picture.  Springtime Carnivore is very likeable!  Might take me a few listens to get into her vocals, but the music is solid.

Swans... Still looking for a track I like well enough to comment on.  Will keep trying.

This one's pretty easy to like: "No Cure for the Lonely" by Swans


I listened, and can see why you like them.  You seem to like deep gruff voices so much.  I remember when we met you liked Lee Hazelwood.  Do you still listen to him?
117  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the \ on: February 09, 2017, 02:33:28 PM
Hey Mari, what are those last two albums? It's easier to ask than to start hunting about...
I made the last one, Springtime Carnivore's debut self-titled album, linkable. Click on the album to listen.

I forgot to do that with Swans's To Be Kind. however. I revisited some songs last night (the shorter ones, because that's easier). I don't know if Bubs has already convinced you to listen to them.

I'm gonna have to click on your linkables more often.  I thought it was just a picture.  Springtime Carnivore is very likeable!  Might take me a few listens to get into her vocals, but the music is solid.

Swans... Still looking for a track I like well enough to comment on.  Will keep trying.
118  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 09, 2017, 01:30:40 PM
"Act Naturally" - but how can you?  I just painted you orange.
119  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #5: HELP! on: February 05, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
"You Like Me Too Much"

Super Bowl was fun.  Seeing one of the better songs voted off was not.  "It's Only Love" - really?
120  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 03, 2017, 11:27:39 PM
I thought the video made its point just fine. I liked some of the categories they picked ("the lucky ones..." Tongue).

Yes, it builds wonderfully. Impossible to watch with dry eyes...

To broach quite another topic: There doesn't seem to be a birthday culture here----I mean for posters' birthdays. It's de rigeur at my other board. Maybe there are just too many worthwhile posters here, past and present----where do you start?

Maybe Peter Reum's birthday namecheck in "The Beatles" topic is a step in the right direction.... 

I didn't see your birthday post 'til after midnight.  I had noticed Peter online at PSF earlier in the day... first time I'd seen him logged-in in a while.  Sure he had a good day, he's loved around the world.
A new one to the 64 club!  Now I don't feel so old...
121  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Politics: 2016 Lame Duck and 2017 New Administration on: February 03, 2017, 12:09:34 AM

Let's hope we have the power to change this.  I watched a Chris Mathews Town Hall tonight.  Did any of you guys see it?  There was a senator from Connecticut, Chris Murphy, who had some good ideas where to start.
122  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Politics: 2016 Lame Duck and 2017 New Administration on: February 02, 2017, 11:58:10 PM
We're moving the wall somewhere else

I'm less concerned about the wall now.  I'm more concerned about how he wants to move push people around.
123  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Welcome thread on: February 02, 2017, 11:44:05 PM
interesting.  the comments show not too many people are listening.
124  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles on: February 02, 2017, 11:36:46 PM
John, this youtube madness!  They won't let your posted video play in America!  So hard to find Beatles tracks -

This fairly good cover was the best I could do...

Happy Birthday, Peter!  Yeah, I know I'm an hour late... that's the way time goes.

https://youtu.be/38uSiYoP29Y
125  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #4: Bealtes For Sale FINAL ROUND!!! on: January 31, 2017, 12:23:01 AM
"No Reply" is my second favorite song on this album.

"Baby's In Black" is my #1.
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