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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 28, 2021, 05:42:07 PM
Sadly looks like my Amazon pre-order carries a date of late September or October. I could order new now and get it in two days, but at extra cost. Anybody having delays through their pre-order?

Get on to customer service and see if they'll honour the original price
102  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 28, 2021, 12:26:27 PM
Australia loves some "Feel flows"



103  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 28, 2021, 08:15:47 AM
Thanks Mark, Alan and all the guys for including the live tracks from all the different decades.

These live tracks are gold!!!
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 27, 2021, 09:58:18 PM
Great posts guitarfool. Really insightful
105  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 07:05:56 PM


Still battling on the charts all these years later haha
106  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 03:08:27 PM
Waiting on Rolling Stone and pitchfork reviews
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 11:15:30 AM
Who is that on 'baby baby'?

Why would they ruin such a good song with awful signing
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 11:08:21 AM




109  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
For being a bed resting vegetable Brian sure did much on these sessions  Roll Eyes

Jokes aside, Good Time left me a bit in awe, there's something about it that sounds so timeless and modern.

Mike really stands out on that track
110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 08:57:46 AM
Sweet and Bitter is just too good. Mike sounds great.
111  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 04:36:37 AM
Good thing amazon didn't cancel me, my local record store was sold out of the box set, they got 3 copies in and all were gone by noon.

Picked up the 2cd set
112  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 08:21:44 PM
"It's a new day"  Shocked
113  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 08:18:37 PM
Just spent a few hours with headphones on going over just about all of it.

It's nearly too much brilliance

Blown away. Greatest band ever
114  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 01:09:10 PM
Just under 3 hours for me for steaming then off to get the 2cd in the morning from tower.

Thank you so much to all involved.. what an absolute treat.
115  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 25, 2021, 10:22:51 PM




116  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 25, 2021, 08:26:42 PM
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The Beach Boys Feel Flows Chapter 2: White Hot Glistening

So we're back to "white hot" now?

It was always 'white hot'
117  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 25, 2021, 07:15:15 PM
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Cant figure this out 😂
118  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 24, 2021, 09:41:37 AM
Hopefully "seasons in the sun" will be the next single. It would be a missed opportunity to not use that song to grab some causal fans or non fans attention.
119  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Full Uncut Howie Edelson Interview with Rock Cellar/Goldmine on \ on: August 24, 2021, 09:39:06 AM
Wow, great interview. We hopefully have some gems coming to us in the next few years.

I wish he was pressed more on the issues that held the project up.
120  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 24, 2021, 07:54:58 AM
I would guess in the next day or two
121  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 24, 2021, 05:35:03 AM
To my knowledge neither Gregg nor anyone else has ever claimed that he made musical contributions to Denny's songs, just the lyrics?

So I don't see how musical talent or lack thereof would even enter into it. Denny just had trouble expressing himself in words.

That's certainly a valid point, but this is relevant quote from the book:

Dennis Wilson’s biographer John Stebbins believed Jakobson “testified to protect Wilson from having to do the same.” Wilson gave Jakobson cowriting credits—and therefore a steady stream of royalties—on many of his songs, even though Jakobson “had no idea what he was doing” in the studio, where it seemed he “didn’t know a guitar string from a piano key.”

O'Neill's clear implication here is that Gregg's credits were, at least partially, a quid pro quo for testifying in Denny's place.  I know that John S. is a member of this forum, so maybe he's discussed this issue before, but saying that Jakobson lacked (or lacks) musical talent and implying that his songwriting credits were perhaps undeserved aren't necessarily the same thing.  You can believe that Jakobson was a non-musician but a decent (or at least helpful) lyricist deserving of whatever credits he received.  But I think O'Neill is pretty clearly suggesting something other than that.

BTW, another interesting thing in the book is the suggestion by Terry that Bugliosi didn't want Denny testify because they thought Denny was crazy and detached from reality.  Melcher talks about Denny possessing an "antigravity" device with Terry at least believing that Denny thought it was real.  Of course, Dennis' various issues of recklessness and substance abuse have been well-known, but the idea that he was suffering from delusions or paranoid fantasies is kinda news to me.  If this is  true, one wonders to the extent that Dennis might have been suffering from some of the same mental-health issues that plagued Brian though perhaps was better at concealing it?

I remember that, Dennis thought the device could make his car fly over traffic

I dont know how Dennis was at this time but it doesn't jive with the music he was starting to make
122  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 24, 2021, 05:31:25 AM
How does a pre-order sell out?

123  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 23, 2021, 01:21:12 PM
Happy Feel Flows week  Grin

Hard to believe that most of Dennis's early '70s solo work with Daryl Dragon is finally going to see release THIS WEKK, among countless other gems. Reminds me of the week that Made in California was set to come out, with "Wouldn't it be Nice (to Live Again)" about to be heard for the first time. It didn't disappoint and neither will this material, if the snippet of "Behold the Night" played on the Beard/Boyd podcast is any indication.

I am very excited for "behold the night"
124  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 23, 2021, 01:19:26 PM
On your recommendation, I borrowed the eBook and skimmed the relevant chapters.  Yes, it's very dark stuff indeed, alleging that Dennis and particularly Terry were involved much longer and more deeply with "The Family" than had been previously acknowledged.  The author seems to believe that Vince Bugliosi covered for Terry and minimized his involvement.

Something new-ish with respect to BB history is the author's suggestion that Gregg Jakobson had very limited musical talent and that Denny gave Gregg songwriting credits as a "thank you" for testifying in the Manson trial so Denny didn't have to.  Not sure that I really buy that.  If we were talking just about a few Sunflower-era credits, it might be plausible, but if the Denny-Gregg collaboration was more pretense than reality, why would it have continued into Pacific Ocean Blue 6 or 7 years later?  The Manson thing had surely blown over by that point, so I'm very much inclined to believe that Gregg's songwriting credits were deserved.

That was actually John Stebbins who suggested that to the author
125  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 23, 2021, 09:41:22 AM
Has anyone else read this? It is wild!

Dennis and The Beach Boys play a big role in it. It alleges that Dennis was involved in a cover up with Terry Melcher after the murders. That Hollywood knew right after that the Beach Boys were involved and they were shunned, FBI bugging Beach Boys offices..  crazy stuff.

No Beach Boys talked to the author but he does talk to some exes of Dennis, despar is in it. Really interesting stuff, The book is getting a lot of attention.

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