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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: July 13, 2008, 03:40:29 PM
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On the US Singles Collection box set, California Girls fades out right after that "triplet" drum fill (at 2:35), and on the Japanese box set, it fades out at 2:44. An easy way to explain it is that on the "LP" version, there are 6 "rounds" (I wish they all could be California Girls) at the end, and on the "single" version there are 8 "rounds" at the end.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: July 11, 2008, 01:52:07 PM
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No matter what mix is used it is still the SAME SONG! So why not use the best sounding mix available, be it the stereo mix from Sounds of Summer or another mix, instead of a muddy, crappy-sounding mono mix from the 60s?
But the whole idea of the US Singles Collection was to give us the US single versions, not the best sounding mixes available!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did Brian ever use a Mellotron?
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on: July 09, 2008, 01:19:01 PM
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The Chamberlin was rare enough in Hollywood back in the mid to late '60s but the Mellotron was even rarer. I can't think of any recordings made in LA (1966-1968) that feature the Mellotron. Curt Boettcher used the Chamberlin on a lot of the Ballroom and Millennium recordings. Gary Paxton had one at his home studio and you can hear it on Jan & Dean's Save It For A Rainy Day LP and a few rare folk-rock recordings by the Gosdin Brothers among others.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: July 06, 2008, 01:45:37 PM
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Consider this - why would Brian decided to (almost imperceptably) remix one track on an LP when he could just strip the single master into the tape ? "CG" was recorded during the album sessions, released a week after the LP. I know this is The Beach Boys we're talking about here, but even so, makes no sense.
I suppose that it's possible that Brian (or someone else) took the single mix and copied it to another reel while shortening the fade. To me, it seems likely that there is a "single" version and an "LP" version in the vaults. The Japanese singles box set and Greatest Hits Vol. 1 both have the 2:47 version, which is the version that was originally released on 45. The version on the US Singles Collection is identical to the version on Summer Days (and Summer Nights), so regardless of whether the mix is different or not ( I think it is), technically there is a single version and an LP version.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: July 05, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
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It appears that the mono LP mix of "Don't Worry Baby" was also used on the new box set. The single mix has a more blended vocal and a longer completely different fade. I'd love to know what's going on here. They should have called it The US Singles Collection (and album mixes where we couldn't be bothered to use the correct mix) 1962-1965.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: July 02, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
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If you listen really closely, you can hear that the level of the keyboards is softer and the vocals are louder on the LP mix. The organ attack is more prominent and the bells are more present on the 45 mix. It's almost like the LP mix showcases the vocals more while the 45 mix has everything crammed together at equal volumes. That's what I hear anyway. After listening again, I can't decide now which one I like better. I think the 45 mix actually "gels" a little better.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: June 30, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
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It's a competely different, and many would argue inferior, mix. Not even used on the 'Good Vibrations' box (for whatever reason). It's surprisingly hard to find on cd. The 1999 'Greatest Hits, Vol.1' is one of the very few (and, by far, easiest) places it can be found...
I personally don't prefer it either, but if you're going to call something the US Singles Collection, you should use the single mix, regardless of whether it's the best version.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New US singles box-set
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on: June 30, 2008, 12:50:24 PM
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Plus they used the LP mix of California Girls! That kind of ruins the whole idea of a SINGLES box set, doncha think? That being said, I like the box set. I think the little picture sleeves with the mini 45s look really nice! Also, buying this set relieves some of the guilt I feel for selling all of my Beach Boys picture sleeves a few years back.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Beach Boys Brother Years Unique Single Mixes
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on: January 25, 2008, 01:44:07 PM
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Which singles during the Brother/Reprise Years (1970-1978) had unique mixes or differed from the LP versions and where are they currently available on CD?
This is what I have so far:
Susie Cincinnati - Greatest Hits Vol. 3 Cool Cool Water - The Warmth Of The Sun California Saga - Greatest Hits Vol. 3 Rock 'n' Roll Music - Greatest Hits Vol. 3 It's OK - Greatest Hits Vol. 3
Were there any others?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: One more question - when was \
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on: November 02, 2007, 08:16:33 AM
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look on Andrew G. Doe's website...or make a purchase of Keith Badman's beach boys book
I have the Badman book and I have checked Andrew's site, but unfortunately, neither of those sources have any info on the songs I'm looking into (or very little). AGD did a great job of getting precise recording info for a lot of 1969 and 1970 sessions- thanks to some great sources who prefer to remain anonymous, but some songs exact recording dates are still a mystery. Once they started recording at home, it becomes a lot harder to get exact info than when they were at Western or Gold Star. My guess would be late 69- notice that the actual date of the Lady session (flip side) was Dec 26 1969- so perhaps around that time?
I always assumed that it was recorded in late 1970 because of the late 1970 release date, otherwise why didn't they release it in early 1970? But it's possible that it was recorded at the same time as "Lady" and it just took a while for EMI to release it.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian & Carl's \
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on: November 02, 2007, 06:11:28 AM
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Thanks! I was looking at that site all night last night. I must have been going blind and missed it.
Is it possible that this is a follow-up session?
Here's a description from a "All This Is That" CD review:
"Pleasant surprises include the Association-like "Won't You Tell Me" from 1969, with its creamy harmonies and lush production work worth hearing more than once."
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