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801  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How to quickly get somebody started on Smile? on: November 07, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
Huh? You mean to tell me I'm required to like every song on the album, or else I'm not up to snuff?

I did say I liked other songs than the singles.

Maybe it's my mixed feelings about "Don't Talk" which makes my tastes too pedestrian.

BTW I'm not religious. Wink
802  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How to quickly get somebody started on Smile? on: November 05, 2012, 11:13:36 PM
I'm not crazy about "That's not me," the 2 instrumentals I usually skip over (though the 2nd one is better), and I've got mixed feelings about "Don't talk" - the refrain is nice but I always find myself wishing the verses were somehow different.

In addition to WIBN, SJB and GOK, since I started listening to Smile I've grown to really like "You still believe in me" and "Caroline, no" especially. "I just wasn't made for these times" is close behind. So that's 6 really good songs, 3-1/2 "meh" songs, and the others are good but not great.
803  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How to quickly get somebody started on Smile? on: November 05, 2012, 09:28:18 PM
So anyway I just ordered 3 copies of Smile and Pet Sounds from amazon.com to give to each of my 3 sisters for Christmas. Have no idea if they'll like them but it's worth a try.

I've also recently told 2 old friends from high school about Smile, one of them said he would definitely buy it. I feel like an evangelist spreading a religion.  Undecided
804  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How to quickly get somebody started on Smile? on: November 05, 2012, 08:46:56 PM
Interestingly, for me it was the other way around. I bought Pet Sounds somewhere around 2004/05, and liked a few songs (WIBN, SJB, GOK) and a few of the other songs seemed OK, but not great. I listened to it once in a while, but it wasn't a big deal.

Then this past spring I read about the Smile sessions somewhere, including the fact that it was "the most famous unreleased album ever," which was enough to pique my interest, so I bought it and became obsessed. Soon after I started listening to Pet Sounds again, and now that I've gotten accustomed to the BB 'progressive' stuff through Smile, Pet Sounds now sounds a lot better. Instead of just 3 really good songs, there are now about 6 or 7.
Let them give Pet Sounds a go and if they dig it, tell them there's something out there EVEN BETTER maybe. Then make them listen to the Sessions 2CD set or any number of fanmixes.
805  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Pollin' The Beatles on: October 29, 2012, 09:16:07 PM
Rubber Soul, in part because this album IMO featured Lennon's best 3 songs:

1. Girl
2. Nowhere Man
3. In My Life

I've probably listened to this album a hundred times over the past 25+ years and have yet to get sick of it.
806  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could the Beach Boys read music? on: October 28, 2012, 06:16:24 PM
Thanks Stephen!
807  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could the Beach Boys read music? on: October 21, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
OK, I left a question on Al Jardine's question form on his website. Don't know if he'll respond, but it seems like a harmless question so let's hope he responds.
808  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could the Beach Boys read music? on: October 21, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
The other one I was wondering about was Al Jardine. According to Wiki he played:
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guitar, bass, double bass, piano, keyboards, synthesizers, banjo, ukulele, mandolin, drums, saxophone, percussion
More often than not, when someone has a musical repertoire like that, there's a certain amount of musical sophistication, often including being able to read music. But not always. Maybe I should ask on his websiteGrin
809  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could the Beach Boys read music? on: October 21, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
Thanks!

Somewhere I saw a photo similar to this one (probably taken at the same time as that one) where you can see Brian sitting next to Dyke Van Parks at the piano, and it looks like Brian is writing down something on the music rack on the piano (though you can't quite tell exactly). Plus, listening to his directing in the various session tapes, it's obvious Brian was musically educated.

I was just wondering about the other guys, however.
810  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Could the Beach Boys read music? on: October 21, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
Hi everyone, new to the board. Have a question I've been dying to ask cuz I can't find the answer on the net anywhere!

I get the impression Brian could read music and it seems he actually wrote down the notes on paper when he was writing his songs, unlike most rock songwriters of the time (and today, for that matter). Correct me if I'm wrong!

But I'm wondering about the other Boys? Did Brian write down each of the guys' harmonies and show up at the studio and say to them, 'OK, sing this,' and they could sing the notes from reading the score Brian made for them? Or did he have to teach them each of their parts orally? Or some combination of the two?

It seems that, given the complexities of many of the harmonies they sang, they must have had some degree of musical sophistication/education, but ... maybe I'm wrong. Anyone here know anything about this?
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