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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson's Rainbows played at Starbucks! on: October 14, 2021, 07:11:05 AM
I once heard "Sail On, Sailor" at either Publix or Kroger back in the 90's that music was out of print.  But by far the rarest thing I've ever heard was a muzak version of "Surf's Up" in an airport...also back in the 90's!
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Jim Peterik's version of "That's Why God Made the Radio" on: October 14, 2021, 07:06:29 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed before but Jim Peterik recorded his own version of "TWGMTR" a few years ago.  I had forgotten he co-wrote it.  It's different, I suppose.  Stripped down considerably.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=_hkg24JjVCc&feature=share
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The 2020 mix of \ on: October 05, 2021, 05:28:55 PM
It's just a bland tune that plods on repetitively until it mercifully ends.  Nothing remarkable about it. 
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Won't you tell me why Won't You Tell Me was left unreleased? on: October 05, 2021, 06:57:00 AM
It's a pretty song but it's quite schmaltzy and dated sounding for the time.  And Brian's wonky lead vocal is all over the place.  The song would have probably been more at home featured in one of the band's earlier albums from the early 60's.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 60th Anniversary Tour on: October 05, 2021, 06:36:23 AM
I don't hold out much hope for a tour.  Maybe a one-off show?
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The 2020 mix of \ on: October 05, 2021, 06:34:48 AM
Not so much a comment or opinion on the new mix, but rather an anecdote that in one 1980 KTSA review that I remember, the writer's opinion was that THIS track was the ONLY good one on the album! Another writer in another 1980 review was of the exact opposite opinion, and wrote that this was the only real "turkey" on the album! Just goes to show how subjective opinions can be.

Best song off that album?!  Yikes.  I can't recall if I've ever even sat through this song in its entirety before skipping it. 
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Ch 105 Sirius XM Good Vibrations on: September 24, 2021, 06:56:57 AM
The BBs have a pretty large catalog to draw from for a "single artist" channel, especially considering they pulled in nearly all of their solo albums, all of the archival sets including all of the studio and live copyright extension sets, and even pulled in some "grey market" releases like live '81 Carl stuff, '66 Japan, '71 Fillmore East, '81 Washington DC, etc.

The problem is that they didn't like run through everything on any sort of even basis. They seemed to rotate the same 25-50 songs *over and over and over* and then sprinkle in the other 90%+ of the catalog very sparingly. "Kokomo" and "Be True To Your School" and "Fun Fun Fun", etc. all got played *dozens* of times per day, and then once every few days I'd see something weird like a "Celebration" song or Carl live at the Bottom Line, etc.

Yeah, I don't remember as many repeated songs going on in a given day the first time SiriusXM brought this channel out. Even though there still was a lot of variety in the material they were playing, I still notoriously heard a lot of the same stuff pretty consistently and I never had the station on much longer than a few minutes at a time.  Although the band definitely has a lot of material to warrant a permanent channel I believe a lot of said material, especially almost anything post-"Good Vibrations", is rather alien to the average listener that just wants to hear the hits.  So deep-diving into the rare stuff like the Celebration albums probably won't prove marketable.  🤷‍♂️
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian music this Friday ? on: September 24, 2021, 06:48:32 AM
Considering his “fans” are so freakin toxic I’m glad they don’t really take any seeming interest in our ideas. I mean, half the “fans” think that Brian is forced at gunpoint by Melinda to tour and record music. Other fans complain that Brian’s music is over produced, his vocals are bad, his vocals are too autotuned. I hope they have completely tuned us out regarding listening to any feedback or ideas. However, I will always wish that they do a radio concept album with a DJ, radio ads, and full of covers of classic rock songs. Pleasure Island.

I’m glad they decided to do their own thing. And considering this could have been an album of nothing but hits, but they decided to throw on some fairytale music and a SMiLE medley, this is such an amazing gift to us.

We as fans probably think too deeply about these things.  Brian and the other Beach Boys have put out music we either have liked or disliked.  It might be a tad unfair to suggest anyone frowning at this new release are automatically acting as toxic fans (although I'm fully aware they exist).  I admit that I haven't liked every album Brian has put out.  I honestly never really got a whole lot out of the Gershwin album save for a few songs, and to this day I don't think I've ever listened to his Disney album in full.  But on the other hand I still enjoy listening to No Pier Pressure and occasionally still play some of his other solo albums.  I don't think it's realistic that we warmly embrace everything an artist offers us.

As far as this piano solo album goes I am currently completely indifferent towards it.  It might prove to be something special or it might barely get one listen from me and then I'll completely forget about it.

On a side note, didn't Brian recently record a brand new song to appear in his documentary?  When do you suppose we'll get to hear that...?

I don’t think I said that anyone disliking this album is toxic (or even suggested it), I was just pointing out that many of the fans are toxic, and because of that I kinda like that the BW camp doesn’t listen to any fan critiques or ideas.

I’ve got nothing against people disliking the idea of this album, I have something against people immediately speculating that Brian didn’t play on this album, or that it doesn’t even sound like Brian (whatever the heck that means, as I doubt these people have sat around with Brian every time he plays the piano). It’s that kinda of garbage that made me think for years as a young fan that Brian was a kind of Uncle Bernie who was being propped up by Melinda. I’ve read and heard so many lies that are based on this idea that Brian can’t do anything for himself, and it’s speculation like this that keeps feeding these lies. It’s disgraceful.

And to add to Guitarfool’s response, I also want to point out that elsewhere it is being asked why is it a problem to criticize Brian, but it’s encouraged to criticize Mike? I will answer that by saying that Mike’s solo career is most always criticized based off of his own standards (he critiqued Brian for possibly using auto tune on NPP, then Mike spent the next 5 years creating music that puts T-Pain to shame). Whereas there seems to be a vast supply of “fans” who go straight at Brian’s dignity when it comes to his solo output (see guitarfools examples above). Brian literally has schizo-affective disorder and is a manic depressive yet people take time out of their day to publicly rip his dignity and his family to shreds whenever he steps out with new music…think about that.

And as for the Long Promised Road documentary music, I hope we get to hear that stuff soon! Apparently they are great sounding tracks. If this documentary and soundtrack take any longer to come out, the thing is going to start getting a reputation like SMiLE Grin

@relx, agreed with the post of the month award LOL

Understood and I wasn't really trying to call you out for anything, Rab.  I was more generalizing the argument I've been hearing (not from you) by some suggesting we should be happy with anything Brian or his bandmates put out unconditionally.  And if we offer even the slightest bit of dissent we're acting toxic.  That just seems silly to me. 
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian music this Friday ? on: September 21, 2021, 05:47:05 AM
Considering his “fans” are so freakin toxic I’m glad they don’t really take any seeming interest in our ideas. I mean, half the “fans” think that Brian is forced at gunpoint by Melinda to tour and record music. Other fans complain that Brian’s music is over produced, his vocals are bad, his vocals are too autotuned. I hope they have completely tuned us out regarding listening to any feedback or ideas. However, I will always wish that they do a radio concept album with a DJ, radio ads, and full of covers of classic rock songs. Pleasure Island.

I’m glad they decided to do their own thing. And considering this could have been an album of nothing but hits, but they decided to throw on some fairytale music and a SMiLE medley, this is such an amazing gift to us.

We as fans probably think too deeply about these things.  Brian and the other Beach Boys have put out music we either have liked or disliked.  It might be a tad unfair to suggest anyone frowning at this new release are automatically acting as toxic fans (although I'm fully aware they exist).  I admit that I haven't liked every album Brian has put out.  I honestly never really got a whole lot out of the Gershwin album save for a few songs, and to this day I don't think I've ever listened to his Disney album in full.  But on the other hand I still enjoy listening to No Pier Pressure and occasionally still play some of his other solo albums.  I don't think it's realistic that we warmly embrace everything an artist offers us.

As far as this piano solo album goes I am currently completely indifferent towards it.  It might prove to be something special or it might barely get one listen from me and then I'll completely forget about it.

On a side note, didn't Brian recently record a brand new song to appear in his documentary?  When do you suppose we'll get to hear that...?
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Ch 105 Sirius XM Good Vibrations on: September 20, 2021, 04:26:36 PM
Iconic has done a great job so far. Really, there's no reason there can't be a *permanent* Beach Boys channel. When you consider their vast catalog *as a band* -- studio albums, concert albums, a ton of archival releases -- plus their solo material, outside projects, covers and influences (both inspired by and inspiring TO The Beach Boys), and the possibilities of talk shows...it could easily be done.

Maybe.  Although I found myself pretty winded from this channel after listening to it for only a couple of minutes at a time.  I mostly enjoyed it in small doses.  Only so many times you need to hear some songs like "Spirit of America" get replayed. 
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Influence on Keepin' The Summer Alive Album? on: September 17, 2021, 09:47:18 AM
Specifically on Goin' On, that vocal hook sounds so similar to the vocal snippet that plays before the string outro on the Smile Sessions version of Heroes and Villains. Is there any proven influence, or is it just a coincidence as far as we can tell?

Probably coincidental.  Brian and the band are known for reusing various motifs and bits throughout their music in other songs.   Take the similarities between BW's "Walkin' The Line" and Al Jardine's "Looking Down the Coast" for example.  Hell, their early previously unreleased song "All Dressed Up For School" morphed into "I Just Got My Pay" before finally achieving it's Super Saiyan form of "Marcella".

And yeah there seems to be more of a direct Queen influence going on here. 
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 28, 2021, 09:53:27 AM
I'm still taking a lot of this in and haven't actually listened to the whole thing in full yet (I've heard most of it though).  A lot of the new stuff serves as a curiosity more than anything as a lot of the unreleased stuff sounds a tad unfinished.  And "songs" like "My Solution" would never stand on its own on any proper Beach Boys album.  I'm not complaining though.  Really glad they put this thing out though as it's well worth the purchase.  I don't know how much casual listeners will get out of it (other than the actual Sunflower and Surf's Up material themselves) but for the diehards like us this is an absolute treat.  Great job Howie and thanks for fighting to put this set out.  I look forward to hearing what you have in store for the Ricky/Blondie years! 
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A newbie to the Beach Boys----advice needed on: August 24, 2021, 06:30:13 AM
Just in case we're overloading you with content and you want to start slow, check out this compilation they put out for their 50th anniversary:

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9fmNgWFLsa30y5cV1sazVWD9-BcB17eM&feature=share

It's a good sampler of the band that covers their entire career, not just the early surfer/car hits.  It gives you a decent idea of what the band is about.  Then you can branch out and explore the other suggestions being made in this thread.  The Made In California box set that came out around the same time goes more in depth but that would be worth listening to as well. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stars & Stripes reappraisal? on: August 24, 2021, 06:00:23 AM
I had just started getting into the Beach Boys around the time this album came out.  So I kinda liked it at the time.  But yeah, this was a pretty big misfire.  A couple of the songs were alright such as "Caroline, No", "Little Deuce Coupe", "Don't Worry Baby" and "I Can Hear Music", but overall we should have gotten an album with new, original music instead of this.  Especially since Brian was involved at the time. 

Side story: I remember the grocery store I worked at around this time had played every song on their radio at one point or another. 
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Song: \ on: August 13, 2021, 06:52:46 AM
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that the only Beach Boys album that contains a version of that song is "Songs From Here and Back," a 2006 release that the BBs did through Hallmark.
https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Here-Back-Beach-Boys/dp/B000JR4BWM



That's correct.  He and his band re-recorded a pretty clunky version of it for that compilation. 

I never really understood the appeal of this song.  The only thing remarkable about it is that Bob Dylan appears in one version of it.  Otherwise it's a pretty forgettable song.  🤷‍♂️
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 30, 2021, 05:49:29 AM
The alternate This Whole World is up on YouTube. It is absolutely terrific, has an easygoing, relaxed lead vocal with different phrasing and a couple of different lyrics, different-style backing vocals near the end and the close is pure '60s Sunshine Pop gold. The best FF nugget yet released!

Very thankful they did not end up going with this cheeseball ending.  The a capella tag in the final version always gave me chills.  This ending sounds more at home capping an episode of The Love Boat instead.  Still it's fascinating to listen to.  Can't wait for this release to come out!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Gershwin Album on: July 28, 2021, 06:43:48 AM
I never for the life of me ever really could get into this one.  There are some nice moments here and there such as "The Like in I Love You" and the bossa nova tinged "S'Wonderful", but overall I found the album to be a tad boring.  "I Loves You, Porgy" is just cringeworthy to listen to and "I Got Rhythm" with its clunky, bland, and workmanlike arrangement was a big disappointment.  Seek out and listen to the Happenings' 1967 endlessly superior version instead. 

Despite this I still preferred this to the forgettable Disney album though. 
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: “A Postcard from California” Reissues on: July 28, 2021, 06:36:04 AM
Wow. So yet another tweaked version of “Waves of Love.” This is getting insane. How many versions have now been officially released? Five?

Yeah, exactly.  It's not even that remarkable of a song.  Al infamously tried to get Brian to include it on TWGMTR and Brian instead ran out of the studio to avoid confrontation with him.  🤣
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: “A Postcard from California” Reissues on: July 26, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
How many times is he going to tamper with that "Waves of Love" song?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Acapulco Girls on: July 26, 2021, 11:39:51 AM
This song was recorded and released back in the late 90's.  Mike and Bruce were probably most likely asked to appear on the track rather than it being their idea.  Pretty sure the band's legacy wasn't really tarnished over this song.  🤷‍♂️
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Acapulco Girls on: July 24, 2021, 08:00:04 AM
If you're daring enough to hear the whole thing:

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=veN2cjUYYYE&feature=share

22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Goin’ On on: July 10, 2021, 11:20:58 AM
I always liked this song and thought it easily was one of their best later-period tracks.  For all the flack this album gets (and don't get me wrong, this is not a great album by any stretch) as well as L.A. (Light Album), if you compiled the best songs from both albums you'd have a pretty decent effort.  Something like this:

KTSA
Good Timin'
Some of Your Love
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Livin' With a Heartache
Sunshine
Lady Lynda
Baby Blue
Goin' On




No "Love surrounds me"? That to me is one of the greatest later tracks the Beach Boys ever did.

Oh right.  I knew I forgot one of them.  You can swap it out with "Sunshine" or "Some of Your Love".  😊

Don't swap out "Sunshine" - that would be a travesty.

"Some Of Your Love" is pretty good, but these days I can't help hearing "Mike Come Back to L.A." and it puts me off that song a little!

Oh fine then.  🤣  Assuming a single LP can fit all these songs on then we don't have to drop anything.  Or make one of these songs strictly the B-side for the "Goin' On" single if it can't fit on the album.  Then it could have served as the "bonus track" for the eventual CD release. 

"Some Of Your Love" is unquestionably lightweight, but I still enjoy listening to it whenever it pops in my shuffle.  And "Summer Of Love" definitely seems to borrow a thing or two from it. 
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys channel is coming back to SiriusXM on: July 10, 2021, 10:34:00 AM
It's great that SiriusXM brought back this station and how they're not afraid to dig deep with the track listing.  However I have to admit I get quickly fatigued by this station after only a few minutes of listening to it.  Not sure what it is.  Maybe it's the jarring track listing that jumps all over the place.  One minute you're listening to an extremely early track like "Stoked" followed by something off of TWGMTR.  Or maybe it's because I keep hearing the same tracks over and over again (I'm looking at you, "Help Me Rhonda").  Or maybe it's the fact that I've heard most of these songs so many times before in my life that I've become desensitized to them.  Not trying to complain though; I just think this station works best for me in small doses. Anybody else feel this way?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: JEM Records Celebrates Brian Wilson - New Tribute Album due July 16th on: July 05, 2021, 10:47:35 AM
Another BW tribute album by a bunch of artists I've never heard of.  🤷‍♂️

I’d like to welcome you to the Old Farts Club. I’ve had the same indifference for about 20 years now and it worries me not one dot. 👍

Think I've already been there for quite some time now.  🤣  There's been enough BW/BB tribute albums by no-name indie artists to make an endless supply of drink coasters for everyone to go around.  Aren't there any relevant artists that would like to participate in one of these things...?
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys channel is coming back to SiriusXM on: July 05, 2021, 10:44:03 AM
Every time I've put it on I've heard "Help Me Rhonda" and "Spirit of America" more times than necessary on any given day.
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