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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 11, 2013, 10:38:06 AM
does this remind anyone of the Beatles song "Because"? For some reason it reminds me of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGXhpRNTBxw
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Would Dennis Look Like Now? on: May 05, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
I could see him looking like Jeff Bridges
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 23, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
Nothing is deeper than Til I Die

can't believe i forgot to mention that one
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 23, 2013, 08:51:15 AM
what's the deepest Beach Boys song? Here's some candidates

Day In the Life of a Tree
Long Promised Road
All This Is That
Caroline No
30  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / anyone here heard of the recently deceased Tony Sheridan? on: April 23, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
he made some music with the Beatles in their early years. One thing I've wondered is why he seemed to have a southern accent of sorts despite being British:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWtVOq-Fyf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBZ2Mc-yjSI
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and his second wife on: April 23, 2013, 06:25:55 AM
well since i've read up more on the BBs, I've become less critical of Mike. What I'm more wondering though is why the courts basically gave his second wife the ---- end of the stick. Don't most judges usually side with the mother?
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I'D LOVE JUST ONCE TO SEE YOU on: April 23, 2013, 06:18:35 AM
Quote from: link=topic=15551.msg365642#msg365642 date=1366695248
The song is definitely about Marilyn, since she was his wife

what kind of logic is that? Since she was his wife, he had already seen her in such capacity for four years
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I'D LOVE JUST ONCE TO SEE YOU on: April 22, 2013, 10:34:08 PM
I've always wondered who this song is about? Maybe Diane? LOL
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and his second wife on: April 21, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
ok maybe my original post wasn't very good so let me clarify. It just seems like a terrible psychological experience to be married to a famous lead singer of a group that was at the time the most popular in the country at the age of 17 and live in a house that cost "three gold records" and then have it all be taken away from you by the time you're 22.

35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Mike and his second wife on: April 20, 2013, 11:23:35 AM
does anyone here think it was sort of crummy what Mike did? From what I recall, he cradle robbed a 17 year old, had two kids with her, would occasionally beat her (according to Gaines, had a short fuse at the time) and when they split, he blamed it on her, got legal rights over his children, and left her with basically no money.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Name One Song You'd Wish The BBs Should Have Covered on: April 17, 2013, 07:32:08 PM
I think they could have covered some Steely Dan stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTt-URVOYos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDVRl1gBOqg
37  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: check out this lost beatles song on: April 14, 2013, 07:47:18 PM
It sounds exactly like 'I'm So Tired' played on an organ - nothing 'new' about it. I think it's actual Beatles kosher tho, I've got it on bootlegs.

the only part that really sounds like the song is the "i wonder should I call you but I know what you would do" part.
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / should "American Family" have had a part three? on: April 14, 2013, 03:41:05 AM
it seems like the second part was very, shall I say, half-assed. What should have been done was to divide it into two parts (Pet Sounds through 20/20 and Sunflower through Endless Summer). The second part would be similar to what was in the movie but maybe slightly more in depth concerning Brian's brief time in an institution, and the Wild Honey through Friends albums.

The third part was where a lot was left out IMO. They should have gone more into their personal lives beside Brian's. Maybe talk about Dennis' relationship with Barbara (she supposedly did a decent job of keeping him under control). I also don't recall any mention of Jack Rieley and think they should have mentioned how he steered them in a more progressive direction. The main two problems I had in the movie was 1. acting as if Bruce never left the group and 2. no mention of BC and RF and their stay in Holland. I think the movie also undersold Carl and that early 70s period might have been a good time to give a more detailed insight into him as well as his own descent into drug use. It might have also been a good idea to show more about Brian as something other than a drugged out corpse. Maybe talk about his contribution to American Spring or his conflict of interest with his sister in law.

So do you think this would have been legitimate improvements or do you think the movie was incurable?
39  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / check out this lost beatles song on: April 13, 2013, 11:06:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=e0vBBfXuKeE&feature=endscreen

even though it says "I'm So Tired" it doesn't sound anything like it. I think it could have been a great song or single.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 12, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
I've been reading some of the Gaines book and I've started to think: does Dennis sort of remind you of those people at the lottery who burn through it in a year (or even in a few months)?
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys and their run-ins with the law. on: April 12, 2013, 01:06:44 AM
i'd assume Dennis might have gotten a DUI at one point or another
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: thoughts/musing on Pet Sounds on: April 09, 2013, 05:24:05 AM
another question I have is does anyone think that had Brian came up with it in 66, that "Until I Die" would have been a great ending song to Pet Sounds, especially the extended version?
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 08, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
in the "American Family" movie, does anyone know what song is playing when Mike and Dennis are in their cars on the beach making out with some girls? Its from like the first fifteen minutes.
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / thoughts/musing on Pet Sounds on: April 07, 2013, 05:19:23 PM
The gist of this may have already been said before, but does anyone agree with me that the album is sort of like an intermission of the 60s. Even though it came out when the decade was 60% done, it seems like if one was to watch a documentary on the 60s, then the time the album came out (end of 65 beginning of 66) would have been sort of a halfway point where people could go get refreshments and the likes. I could sort of picture the song "Let's Go Away for Awhile" to be that particular intermission song. To me, in addition to being appropriately named for an intermission song, it sort of encapsulates the time around 1966 and sounds like background music on the Andy Williams Show.

But also, it would be appropriate since it would mark the intermission of the 60s itself. I kind of see it as the sort of turning point between the drag racing, fun 'n' sun, and general American Graffitti atmosphere beforehand and the remaining years of the decade with antiwar protests, race riots and the emergence of the counterculture and more liberal attitudes toward sex and drug use. Now if one is a hardcore Zephead or Black Sabbath fan, then you're probably wondering how it got #2 on the Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums list. But if one approaches the album as a sort of deep and emotionally raw album, then it makes a lot more sense. And the album is also sort of a soundtrack to America of 1966, because the words in the song are what plenty of other people were probably thinking (albeit in a different context). Just like Great Society America had a vision of a limitless America, so too was there beginning to be a culture of skepticism accompanied with the rise of societal ills. Even though the song is about a relationship between two young people, "Wouldn't It Be Nice", with a few lyrics changed, could just as easily be about what some people thought about America at the time.

Lastly, I see the album in some regards as a precursor or even a prequel to the Dark Side of the Moon. Although Dark Side has a lot more guitar usage, they both seem to be about the general mood of a person and the thought of growing up (you are young and life is long and there is time to kill today). The only difference was that Dark Side was released when the tumult and counterculture of the late 60s/early 70s was dying down and was sort of a reflection on the years in between. Alright I'm sort of sounding like a stoner, but does anyone sort of agree with me, at least in theory?



45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: alternative pictures or covers on albums - what would you do? on: April 06, 2013, 11:56:42 PM
what I would do...



assuming that's the Friends album you're using it for, why are you using a picture of 1976 Brian? Did Venet have ESP?
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 06, 2013, 11:46:53 PM
after reading some of Heroes and Villains and seeing "An American Family" (accuracy notwithstanding) it made me realize: Were the beach boys doomed from the start? It seems that even when they got started there was too much crap in their personal lives going on and the fact that most of them were family members only exacerbated it.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: alternative pictures or covers on albums - what would you do? on: April 06, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: link=topic=15466.msg361248#msg361248 date=1364967582
And "Sign of the Times" is kinda in-your-face and too self-indulgent.

how cuz?
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / alternative pictures or covers on albums - what would you do? on: April 02, 2013, 10:39:42 PM
are there any albums that you think should have been called something different or should have had a different album cover.

Names
Little Deuce Coupe - "Car Sounds"
SDVII  - "In the Parking Lot"
Pet Sounds - Wouldn't It Be Nice
Smiley Smile - Good Vibrations
Surf's Up - Sign of the Times
Holland - Ten Years Gone

Covers
Surfin USA - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vxRm2fVdkg4/SqP-sZNecQI/AAAAAAAAA-A/64yIZRRBbhk/s400/1961_beachboys.jpg
All Summer Long - http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/11/11e_beachboys_wideweb__430x246.jpg
Today - http://spectrumculture.com/files/import/1832-summerdays2.JPG
SmileySmile - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_InjbTwtzlA0/TFYwEe_DDpI/AAAAAAAAAPg/rMfmbe2kH7I/s1600/06+beachboys1967.gif
Wild Honey - http://ace.bootlegs.free.fr/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/images/beach-boys-cgirls_l.jpg
Surfs Up - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_InjbTwtzlA0/TFYxFoao5BI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/XGeITkaR7RU/s1600/12+The%2BBeach%2BBoys1971.png
So Tough - backside picture

49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: were they lacking in a lennon -esque figure? on: March 17, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
I love a lot of Lennon's music but as a person he was pretty dark.

That's what I liked the most about Lennon. The songs like "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" or "Don't Let Me Down" are really powerful songs. As I said earlier, Dennis in some ways was the closest thing to a Lennon figure. That "all things that live must one day die you know" verse sounds like something that might have been on something like Mind Games.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys vs Beatles in the same years on: March 16, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
My point is, when I listen to Pet Sounds as an album, I hear....Sunshine Pop, Folk Rock, Baroque Pop and Pop Rock...and all four of those are very close obviously, with Pop Rock being the root...leaning heavily on the pop side.

don't you mean Revolver? Pet Sounds isn't really a rock album as it is sort of a classical one.
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