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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike being comfortable with Bruce appearing on: Today at 02:23:21 PM
And that’s why I don’t really get the autograph scene Jon.

I wonder if Al would sign a copy of your book on Dave or Dennis? Sure, he’s associated, but I would consider the deed pretty much meaningless myself.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love of the Beach Boys Presents The Girls of Kokomo..... on: January 08, 2019, 05:53:32 PM
After a bit of a search I found another shot of that pack showing a business card. The name is Ray Upton. Must be this guy.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/beach-boys-mike-love-girls-kokomo-1829002812

https://www.amazon.com/Ramondo/e/B00EN4J3DY
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys - early radio broadcasts on: January 03, 2019, 10:54:17 AM
Go to 2.30 on the clip. Over a minute follows of the ‘I wish they all could be California Girls’ outro.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike being comfortable with Bruce appearing on: January 03, 2019, 09:11:31 AM
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/beach-boys-carl-wilson-promo-cd-129850979
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Daryl Dragon on: January 02, 2019, 09:58:31 PM
This story says his ex Toni cared for him until the end. Classy lady. Also a message from Brian.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/01/02/daryl-dragon-captain-tennille-has-died-arizona-76/2468070002/
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike being comfortable with Bruce appearing on: January 02, 2019, 09:52:02 PM


It's worth noting that none of the still-living BBs command a super high price for autographs as far as I can tell. All of them have remained (relatively speaking) accessible to either get an in-person autograph or purchase one through official means.
 

I wonder what the oddest BBs item that's autographed by a BB member would be. Like has Mike ever signed (or been asked to sign) a copy of POB? He did cowrite lyrics on a song there. Same with if Mike's ever been asked to sign Imagination, seeing as he wrote original lyrics for the BBs remakes.

I was sent a promo CD with "You're Welcome" on it circa 2002 (if memory serves) from the Carl Wilson Foundation after having attended one of their events; I assumed it was pretty rare, and I had Brian sign it at a GIOMH autograph signing, along with a DVD-Audio version of Pet Sounds.

I recall seeing clips of Dave being handed assorted BB albums he didn’t play on to sign during the C50 and thinking that’s not right. It was probably easier to sign them than not I guess.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys - early radio broadcasts on: January 02, 2019, 04:17:26 PM
Another interesting point I had never heard is the long outro to California Girls on the Christchurch tape. Was that regular for the time?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys - early radio broadcasts on: January 01, 2019, 10:13:57 AM
That after show interview is Perth.

Re the TV broadcast. You have to appreciate the situation in NZ at the time. We had our own Trump style leader with a ‘government knows best’ mindset. One TV channel govt run,later two, not in a propaganda style but a ‘why do you need more?’.

It would not surprise me in the slightest that another reason it has never resurfaced is the group prefer it that way. NZ has gone completely the other way 40 years later and I’m sure it could be available if management asked for it.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys - early radio broadcasts on: January 01, 2019, 01:19:20 AM
I do. My first concert ever (16). Easily impressed but they were probably pretty bad, as was most of the tour. As mentioned, it was filmed and played once. QE 2 stadium which was destroyed in the Christchurch earthquake of 2011, and now demolished.
A few years back a poster here did say a friend of his went partying with Dennis after the show but could provide no details. I do remember a story in the main paper as it was a pretty big deal for a city of 300k. I think it was a sell-out of about 10k.

This audio is from the show apparently.

https://youtu.be/BgXCpFCaQGs



10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The official status of unreleased material over 50 years old on: December 29, 2018, 05:44:25 PM
Interesting topic. I remember several years ago UK singer Cliff Richard going to court wanting an extension. He is still performing at almost 80 however like many teen artists of the time, he could never dream there would still be a market decades later.
And the European Union reference. With the UK pulling out in March after over 40 years, surely a can of worms about to be opened do you think?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All I Wanna Do - What were The BBs trying to achieve with it? on: December 27, 2018, 06:21:53 PM
Crazy enough, I originally thought the banjo at the end of Cabinessence was also a sitar for the longest time

Really? I have always thought it was a musical instrument related to the Chinese railway workers of the 1860s, whether that was from China itself or a local banjo. (Have you seen the grand coolie workin' on the railroad?)

Probyn gets the sound just right in this Smile performance.

https://youtu.be/q8fgLf3aPvA
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 23, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
Deleted almost all of it.  Wink

Perhaps others might read it and think better before posting.

 Merry Christmas.  Smiley
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 23, 2018, 08:02:32 PM


Since I know i'm going to be banned any moment....



People from both boards, now a third, have apologised and moved on.

It’s Christmas Eve for me. Think of ‘the reason for the season’ and do the same.

So far you haven’t posted anything I can see worth a ban. Be a bigger person and leave it that way huh?  Wink

14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 22, 2018, 10:44:14 PM
Bob Lizik, Brian’s base player.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 22, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Works for me!

And for something infinitely more pleasant...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrtKBHKngbD/
Is It just me, or did Brian just sound thirty years younger, for a brief, fleeting second or two?

There are pictures taken over the years of Brian and all the Beach Boys standing around a piano pre/post shows doing the same thing, and they are awesome. Perhaps if that had have happened in 2012..... Cry
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 22, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
Not going to comment on the politics of the issue but the lesson seems to be if you want to post on another board, rightly or wrongly, use another name. Sad but true.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 19, 2018, 10:52:35 PM
1978 Rocky punches out Carl Wilson
2018 Rocky kneecaps 2 message boards.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 15, 2018, 10:49:20 AM
Ron. You seem to be struggling with the ‘Quote ‘ function on this site so I have saved your answer below. (Press ‘Quote’ then roll to the bottom of the quote first rather than typing your reply straight away.)




In answer to the 180 degree turnaround regarding the tone of the book, which keeps coming up,  I'll try and give a cogent answer.

The original manuscript was very interesting, but problematical. I finally found a publisher that saw the potential that I believed was there for a publishable book. During the publisher's editor polish and rewrite, I had myriad occasions to listen to Rocky recount amazing story after amazing story. Often, during what turned out to be a year of patient and fascinated listening I would remark, "Why isn't that in the book? That's a much more interesting bit of history than other incidents that ARE included and could be considered mean spirited and legally dangerous, at best."
When the edited version arrived I read it and and asked if I may take a writer's pass at it. Rocky was naturally suspicious. "Who was I to take a pass at his book?" It was a fair enough response for sure. I had written screenplays, directed an unheralded low budget feature film, but still. I am experienced in  talent management, music and film biz, but still, it was his book.
He reluctantly agreed to look at a first couple of rewritten chapters. During that year, we'd discovered that his written take on the subject did not actually match up with what I was hearing. Most glaringly, and this has caused lots of suspicion here on this site, was the fact that Rocky actually had an immense respect for Mike Love in many areas. His response to that revelation was, "Really?" There were other areas that were similarly revealed about Stan Love, Steve Love, Dennis, Carl, lawsuits, family squabbles, non-disclosure agreements and more.

There were other areas where what I heard was not alined with what was written.
I was encouraged to continue. About 2/3 of the way through my pass he remarked yet again how pleased he was with what I was doing and how it was considerably different from the tone of the original manuscript. Both Rocky and the publisher felt it was a better and more commercial product and book that was emerging. We are, after all, in the book business. We are not free to express as we may on this site and as Rocky has in the past.
Somewhere along the line, I said to Rocky, "If you praise my writing one more time, I'm going to ask to share writing credit with you." To my "fall off the couch surprise" he agreed. So we finished the book in concert with a more "tolerant, forgiving, insightful" and yeah, dare I say, "commercial" tone in mind.
Clearly we did not pay enough attention to specific details for the learned BB aficionados' on this site, but I can promise you the insights we discovered from our shared review of what we covered are revelatory in their nature. I believe we accomplished a behind the scenes look at things that is quite interesting, remarkable and enjoyable. 
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Border Crossings Al Jardine Interview on: December 14, 2018, 02:09:41 PM
Just about to watch. Sounds good.

https://youtu.be/JdM_mSsBWCk


Edit: Pretty good interview and format. Certainly better than either Brian or Mike.  Interesting how he mentions ‘don’t believe the naysayers’ when he mentions interactions between members.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 14, 2018, 10:47:34 AM
Oh lordy, I hope there’s tapes.  Grin
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 13, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
My first job was a minor clerical role in a govt department in 1978, and that had a non disclosure agreement. I see no reason why a R&R band just a few years earlier wouldn’t have the same. Sure, the main group members can be excluded (and seem to have been) from telling their stories. The ‘hired hands’ are another matter.

So possibly a positive spin story is deemed to be ok over a tabloid tale?
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 12, 2018, 10:18:12 AM
Can I do a Maharishi Lecture? I got the beard for it :D

And I can find a phone booth as a venue. Hey it was tried by the Beach Boys and the crowd stayed away in droves!  LOL
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 12, 2018, 01:01:22 AM
Can someone kindly offer a link to the legendary Rocky Pamplin meltdown?


Last post through to first. Quite a few meltdowns from memory.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9448;sa=showPosts;start=0
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: From Yahoo Entertainment...Mike discusses rift with Brian on: December 11, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
Howard Stern should get all of the surviving members together and have them argue it out.

That happened today in the Whitehouse.....oh wait.....That was Trump, Pelosi and Schumer.  LOL
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 11, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
You "have fun" with smb. else. I quit this dull thread.


I enjoyed Billy's posts here better than the entire snoozer thread (& previous rocky pimple rockrash thread). Btw, still doesn't make sense why be polite towards the chap. Pretty Funky even said "no offence"? What? As if it's friend or family relative. Bizarre, to say the least.


Well that was short lived, but as you are back in, the poster has not caused me any offence (yet). I might not agree with the book or topic but what’s wrong with a bit of good natured courtesy? Must be my ancestry.
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