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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: February 01, 2018, 11:25:38 AM
"....featured on The Beach Boys Love album, marked...."

which of course pre-dates The Beatles Love album considerably
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Duophonic Pet Sounds created from orig. L.A. Mono Mix? Missing Artifacts... on: January 25, 2018, 07:57:02 AM
one might argue that a 3.75 ips true stereo recording tape is better than any 7.5 ips duophonic tape.  the point was of course that particular reel tape is the best possible old duophonic source

ZT 2458 is the capitol number for Pet Sounds reel tape @ 7.5 ips speed;  they later down-graded the speed on Pet Sounds to 3.75 ips and re-assigned number Y1T 2458.  the beatles revolver album on reel tape got speed down-graded by capitol from 7.5 to 3.75 in just the same fashion back then
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Duophonic Pet Sounds created from orig. L.A. Mono Mix? Missing Artifacts... on: January 24, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
this was the best duophonic original release of Pet Sounds album:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Beach-Boys-Pet-Sounds-4-Track-Reel-To-Reel-ZT-2458-rare/302609521714?hash=item4674eedc32:g:pQ8AAOSwmblZw~5c

the tape playing speed of this edition is 7-1/2 IPS, but later Capitol got cheap and re-issued it at the slower and inferior 3-3/4 IPS (which no longer qualifies as the best)

Capitol released a few other Beach Boys reel tapes then but not one other at 7-1/2 (just this P.S.)
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bad news for Bruce? on: January 11, 2018, 06:51:51 AM
"Seems like horrific events like this are happening with increasing frequency all over these days, with mudslides, fires, crazy powerful hurricanes, ect. Scary."

yes, but....pheww....at least no more global warming
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music on: January 08, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
fortunately the old RCA WDFFIL? single is a stereo pressing

the lead vocal Gloria Grinell shares with Terry Melcher.  Brians' voice is very prominent in the BGV's

I've always liked it
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who was the most spiritual of the Beach Boys? on: December 13, 2017, 07:24:08 AM
mike love certainly got it wrong calling GOK about as religious as the beach boys get

that'd be Our Prayer (brian's smile composition & recording)
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Does anyone inadvertently copy The BBs' stage presence/movements? on: December 12, 2017, 07:30:36 AM
I mimic Mike Love's various gestures from old '60s song live shows we see, but to mock him I deliberately scramble them (so they make no sense), as if Mike Love himself got them out of sequence with a lyric he was singing then.  You'd be interested at how well this works among the right company.  But I imagine others so inclined do similarly
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Have you ever heard a Beach Boys song in a different language? on: December 08, 2017, 06:48:20 AM
NO GO SHOWBOAT = J'AI PAS LE TEMPS

Petula Clark sang this on a French record, but the lyrics were re-written so they've nothing to do with cars (so a translation of the title will have no connection)

this one can be found easily enough on compilation CD's
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are some great books detailing the recording of Pet Sounds and Smile? on: October 06, 2017, 06:56:25 AM
here's the (subject) book you want
the author (aforementioned)
together with the principals (one admittedly only on the bookcover photo)
altogether in one 2005 image (I love it)

http://www.sofein.com/mess/2005/images/3men.jpg
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The only negative review on Pet Sounds I can't stand... on: October 02, 2017, 08:09:15 AM
the most insipidly idiotic of them is that 'the melodies are not especially beautiful' - Caroline, No is exquisite

i'll use this opportunity to debunk an old even generally accepted remark about Pet Sounds "happy songs sell records, sad songs sell beer",  because I can think of many as I'm sure you can sad songs that made the chart top 10 (i'll allow Caroline No happens not to be one of them, since it was a 45)
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 22, 2017, 08:36:47 AM
there's about as much authenticity in this so-called reel session tape storage rack as Bruce Johnston's old remark about a beach boys album called The Fading Rock Group Revival

in other words a fan who kept 10-1/2" dia. reel tapes of beach boys albums decided to store them in a faux BRI session multi replica as a gag, pulling our legs with that photo a bit like bruce did with that goofy comment

mr. desper might bear me out in that the boxes there for those 10-1/2" dia. reels probably contain not the 1/2" width tape as I originally thought, but the much more consumer standard 1/4" width tape (with a pad piece for filler), my x-ray BS detector sniffs this out
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 22, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
it's rather faint but on there is a label for the aforementioned Bob Rolle as 'Robert D. Rolle'
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 21, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
the upper rack seems to be straight LP releases.  there're two concert ones and i'll assume one is live in London.  strange stack-o-tracks isn't represented there

the lower rack has the weirder titling i.e., one tape is add some music but there's another called sunflower (we know the historic reason for this).  but I maintain it doesn't have to make sense, a fan is just goofing around and creating intriguing though ultimately false tape appearances, having seen as I say a photo of the real mc-coy containing numerous odd (to us) titlings (among the familiar) a knowledgeable fan could guess at

64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 21, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
off to the far left in that photo one can actually see a bit of commercial reel-to-reel tape releases (perhaps not beach boys, the label printing's just too small)

those boxes are for 10 inch diameter reels and are about double the thickness of the 1/4" tape boxes at the bottom so i'll say they hold 1/2" width tape.  1/2" blank tape on 10-1/2" reels is not a very common consumer recording format but it is/was out there

the question of why not buy the beach boy albums on commercially released pre-recorded tapes instead of a fan dubbing his own record albums onto the larger reel format need not be relevant.  those of us who had fancy reel recorders then did such things all the time (it didn't have to make any particular sense).  also, over the years the commercially available pre-recorded beach boy album tapes were quite scattershot in quality, the oldest ones on capitol being double-album pairings on one reel at the inferior 3-3/4 IPS speed (only pet sounds was a single 7-1/2 IPS release in 1966 and that was brief and hard to find).  The brother/reprise ones went back and forth between 3-3/4 and 7-1/2 speeds illogically (except from a tape cost standpoint) album to album title

my guess is what we're seeing here is a kind of fan beach boy tape library copycat open reel setup.  he'd seen some old private photographs (perhaps from Brian) and set out to create his own version of it from memory
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why has the song \ on: August 25, 2017, 06:50:52 AM
given the nature of this thread it would appear natural simply to retitle the song

ALMOST FORGOTTEN
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: August 24, 2017, 08:14:56 AM
the correct CD to listen to (late at night under candlelight) having just been identified for us (as if there's any doubt)

I will identify the correct Belgium craft beer that was alluded to - BROEJEL (a bock lager), chill well
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Most Challenging Song (Instrumentally) on: August 17, 2017, 09:31:43 AM
Cabin Essence I don't see mentioned and I've never been able to get anywhere with that one myself.  The others are certainly possible for a person to deal with since good charts have been published (well, not all), Let's Go Away For Awhile loses its challenge when one sees the notes printed on the music stand in front of you

Busy Doin' Nothing I agree is quite a challenge to play something satisfying.  And you're going to want to sing that one too regardless if you have much of a voice (the lyrics and the way Brian speak-sings them are just too ingrained in our consciousness)
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd about that 68 package - on: August 17, 2017, 07:34:01 AM
an idea I've flirted with that could possibly fit into this (although maybe it's too late, the just released '67 package might've been better setting) is the complete genesis of Cool, Cool Water

starting with Love To Say Da Da then metamorphosing into a Coca-Cola commercial (surely the tapes must still be around with that proposed vocal track), then the addition of the divinely beautiful 'Water Chant' and how that progressed to the Sunflower LP, etc with even more embellishment

there's a lot of material here and I think the evolution if presented with chronological accuracy and insight would prove positively fascinating
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd about that 68 package - on: August 14, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
for Friends album 'session highlights' I'd like to hear anything that the old tapes can uncover of Murry Wilson's presence there and then, since he did sing bass on some cuts (mike love thankfully being away in india) and maybe we can recognize him among the studio chatter

and other tracks considered but dropped from the Stack-O-Tracks final line-up
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is there an appreciation thread for The Beach Boys In Concert [1973] on: July 28, 2017, 10:11:33 AM
yes the only way to play that live Marcella is LOUD

that album sounds bestest on the old pre-recorded open reel tape format (7-1/2 IPS speed) it got issued at the time (discs spliced into one continuous tape reel)
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why has the song \ on: July 24, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
obviously everybody's been misinterpreting the AS lyric all these years, what Suzy wants to be is a director, of ladies
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Something I think we need to realize vis--vis Mike and the band's name... on: July 19, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
"There was no gun to their head forcing this set up. They did it."

but there's not a single person on this site who'd say MEL (and that's certainly not Melinda) didn't bully his way into get exactly what he wants from the others (as the record over the many years attests to), including his (last remaining) cousin to whom he fundamentally owes it all to
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 15, 2017, 09:17:45 AM
eat
eat up
eat up
honey!
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders on: July 14, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
Terry Melcher would be essential to any film portrayal here

but Dennis & Brian might ultimately be viewed by mr tarentino as a kind of character clutter.  They're more well known than Terry ever was, but still they might be eliminated in contemporary story re-telling
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can't Wait Too Long on Sunshine Tomorrow on: July 13, 2017, 07:13:57 AM
".....as well as a section that appears immediately after Miracles only in bootlegs, with a prominent rhythmic element and wordless "aaaahs" from the Boys."

yes, this particular section mentioned a post or two above has long tantalized & mystified me - has a name ever been put to it anywhere?  It is not the I Believe In Miracles vocal heard in MIC
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