couldn't disagree more, it was apparent to me that voice's Deans without guessing upon first hearing (I saw Jan & Dean at shows going way back too).  remember Dean had to adopt a guise since he was forbidden to sing on competitors records like the Beach Boys, so just appropriating Al's role in the script makes sense in addition to the comic aspect.  (put another way, it is just the same voice as every time I've heard Dean speak during some dialogue included on a CD, and bears no resemblance to anytime I've ever heard Carl speak likewise).  Al comes in not as himself of course but goofing under another (phoney) name a moment later in the dialogue

".sure sounds like Carl to me saying, "Hi, this is Alan Jardine, and this scene takes place at a typical Beach Boys party" or something to that effect.

yeah, its carl mocking jardine's bit on cassius love vs sunny wilson. I doubt dean would have remembered that obscure reference, but he is a weird guy..."

no it's Dean Torrence, reading from a prepared script so there's no need for him to remember an obscure reference.  the voice is unmistakeable from hearing him shoot the breeze on various Jan & Dean compilations

crumbiest online dictionary fer sure

right, my (name) mis-spelling (there's just so close, geographically)

"....Carl identifying himself as Al, saying something like, "hi this is Al Jardine...."

I'd know Dean Torrance's speaking voice anywhere and that's definitely him, not Carl and certainly not Al.  As for Brian's voice, he's the one saying "that's MY door".  Regardless, that spontaneous ridiculing of the script really bowls me over (ROTFL as they say), and if they came up with a new double disc primarily of old material just like that, well, they could pretty much skip the filler songs IMO

as for who said "you brought the records" I wasn't able to pinpoint w/ certainty since the voice is such a caracature, though I might've offered it was Dennis since it's spoken w/ so much gusto

those shirts both Brian & Mike're wearing could double as focus test patterns in some technical jurisdictions.  certainly breaks up the visual monotony

Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense

crummy is correctly spelled crumby

the Beach Boys song with the weightiest Landy songwriting credit (IMO) MALE EGO seems to've been lost over the years, perhaps as a result of these legal proceedings

LITTLE DEW SCOOP

KNARLIN'

ALL THIS IS SAP

no, I say nobody's got the reading of that lyric line right yet -

"OUT DOIN' IN MY HEAD"  means the guy has been trying to 'out-do' her put-down of him, mentally of course.  Think of a good come-back line, top her in other words (preparing of their next encounter)

on MIC the new (2012) true stereo WILD HONEY mix pretty much suppresses the sharply up-front tambourine shakes/slaps from the original mono 45

"The BBs are pretty much the unofficial soundtrack to Disney's California Adventure"

yeah I took my daughter there in May and CALIFORNIA GIRLS or SURFIN' USA never ceased to be blaring away

I almost hate to say it.....sort of like.....MORE COWBELL

surely Landy knew enough not to fumble (with an old phone receiver) like that, which ear of Brian's to use calling Melinda, because one can only imagine how many previous phone-call coachings preceded it (i.e. Landy trying to get Brian to call a record company executive).  it still seems crude to me

at their first Cadillac dealership meeting Melinda says "You didn't tell me that!"  (that he was THE Brian Wilson) to which Brian replies "oh...that's just ego stuff".  But when they talk over the phone the first time she begins responding to him "Hello, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys"

back to the Huffington Post for a moment, the reviewer says actor Paul Giamatti plays Dr. Landy with gusto.  Yes, that word summarizes his portrayal perfectly IMO.

while I wouldn't mind debating exactly who might, or at least should, get an Oscar nomination, everyone would be right in their varying assertions because ALL of the principals were that good

p.s.:  was it Mr. Mark Linnett, whom we see so often in the film (even though he doesn't look a thing like Chuck Britz) that uttered the line "it's going to cost $5000" (when Brian wants to cancel a SMiLE session)?

p.p.s.:  in the '60s scenes at Brian's home, and at the studio too, there were quite a few scenes w/ background individuals shooting a little 8mm movie camera

"....what Capitol had lying around it's own vaults".

a few of those tracks then possibly from an early WILD HONEY L.P. submission to them?  (if BRI officially had absolutely no involvement)

that vocal 'tag' added to I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER on Rarities IMO is the most worthwhile, neat and valuable thing on that old L.P.  It sounds great and I can't imagine why they wouldn't edit it into the Wild Honey album version

but the 'Dutch' version of BBOTM really scrapes the bottom of the unreleased barrel.  It might as well even be a fabrication IMO.  Does anybody actually own the original BBOTM mono 45 from the Netherlands?

I'd settle contentedly for....

an I BRAKE FOR BRIAN WILSON bumper sticker (I'd prefer several, they wear out)

a toy ukulele given out at LEI'D IN HAWAII

a nice old original woolen PENDLETON shirt in my size of course.  I'm wearing a PENDLETON shirt right now, honest, but the label reads "Warranted to be a PENDLETON.  Pendleton Woolen Mills. Portland OR.  Made in Indonesia"

all the additional / alternate song suggestions for a SC re-release I'm reading here are fine with me (I still pull this CD out from time to time for the sake of SOMEWHERE NEAR JAPAN which I think is great, and to a lesser extent IN MY CAR), but IMO one thing is essential--MAKE IT BIG needs to go.  No question.  It is a big turd.

Landy telling Brian to use his other ear (as if Brian had never used the phone, or not in a long time) seems stupidly crude to me

the Huffington Post review of L&M will do.....he wants to get rid of 30 minutes, less stuff at pools, hmmm....definitely NOT the scene where Brian tries to get the rest to come over to the deep end of his pool because he thinks his Dad and Phil Spector have everywhere else in his home bugged.  That scene goes right to the core.  And no less recording studio sessions, perish even the thought, they are so delightful.  I agree the chemistry between Cusack & Banks if not leaps off of the screen gets a good running start

when Melinda takes the first phone call at her Cadillac dealership from Brian the connection actually begins will other voices saying something before Brian comes on the line....I'd like to know exactly what/who those other voices were

wasn't KOKOMO produced by Terry Melcher?  Maybe therein lies the reason, at least in part, Brian didn't participate (certainly didn't seek it out).  Even if Brian & Terry were, or at least had been friends years earlier.  Landy's statement (if implied) "Brian Wilson produces Beach Boys records"

And nobody makes similar complaints Brian ain't on I CAN HEAR MUSIC - which was produced by his own brother and recorded in his own home studio

was Bruce Johnston in the original SJB b&w promo film (I just don't recall him).  Well I suppose he had to be if Pohlad showed him in the recreation.  My original point about Bruce however was the only speaking line he has is in that return from Japan tour scene.  Yes you could say we see Bruce a tiny bit here and there later on, but if he wasn't given that solitary identifiable line we wouldn't know who that extra person seen was (or at least wouldn't be certain).

"It also, perhaps, is meant to put forth the theory that those two things (even if in reality they happened 2 years apart) were the impetus for Brian completely pulling back."  Yes!  Pohlad I think felt the need somehow to summarize in one scene if possible "THIS is how the Brian played by Paul Dano got to be the Brian played by John Cusack", they're so radically different to the general public anyway.

I thought it was Evan (Landy) who calls on Melinda  (not Doug the blonde bodyguard)

"Mike to Brian "you need to go on a fast with me""  maybe a sly reference to the fasts Mike Love was known later to've gone on that went haywire



from one Smiley Smile Associate to another, yes of course you need to go and see L&M a 14th time (can't stop on an unlucky number)

(right....Dennis was running his Bolex camera)

....and my posts here got screwed up

was Bruce Johnston in the original SJB b&w promo film (I just don't recall him).  Will I suppose he had to be if Pohlad showed him in the recreation.  My original point about Bruce however was the only speaking line he has is in that return from Japan tour scene.  Yes you could say we see Bruce a tiny bit here and there later on, but if he wasn't given that solitary line we wouldn't know who that extra person seen was (or at least wouldn't be certain).

"It also, perhaps, is meant to put forth the theory that those two things (even if in reality they happened 2 years apart) were the impetus for Brian completely pulling back."  Yes!  Pohlad I think felt the need somehow to try making a statement "THIS is how the Brian played by Paul Dano got to be the Brian played by John Cusack", they're so radically different to the general public anyway.

I thought it was Evan (Landy) who calls on Melinda  (not Doug the blonde bodyguard)

"Mike to Brian "you need to go on a fast with me""  maybe a sly reference to the fasts Mike Love was known later to've gone on that went haywire

I saw L&M last night, my 4th, at its final local showtime (today I checked and it's completely gone in these parts).  I wanted to take one of my other sons, it was 9:30 and still 5 others showed.  I'm surprised it endured 2-1/2 months about.

And I still heard a line--a bit of dialogue between Brian & Carl--I hadn't caught before, closing the scene where the touring BB's return from Japan and're greeted by Brian in the studio in preparation for (hearing) the new Pet Sounds L.P. tracks.  Carl had given his older brother a souvenier fan "it even matches your shirt" he adds, but finally Brian kids Carl by saying "but I'd wanted a samurai sword!"

Just a half minute earlier we see (what I believe is) the only Bruce Johnston appearance and exchange, where Brian says something like "Great job, Bruce" (shaking his hand as he walks past) to which Bruce replies "I could never fill your shoes".

One part I came to terms with, that I used to have a problem, was where Murry tells Brian the 'good news' - he's just sold Sea Of Tubes publishing for $750K.  This is also where Brian had just told him the rest of the band were going to salvage the SMiLE album cuts with or without his help and call it Smiley Smile, in order to give Capitol an album post haste.  Obviously the SOT sale came over 2 years later and I didn't like the convoluted collapse of events.  But now I believe that was deliberate by director Pohlad in that he wanted Brian to get the full effect of a 1-2 punch at that point in time, Brian being essentially taken down by those around him as producer and 'music leader' and this drives that critical point home.