To our esteemed authors here. How important is a cover? A turban headed, shirtless, tight gold lame pant wearing Mike on the cover may cause some to shudder, but it may stop others in their tracks and then open up an read a few paragraphs, perhaps catching their interest.

Or do people actually go to bookstores anymore.

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

So, does anyone know the process in which they hammered out this book? I can't see Brian, sitting for a couple of hours a day and waxing poetically about his life. I look forward to reading this, but I already bought and read one biography that wasn't real.  Oh ya and looking forward to some genius on Clown action

I've heard it's not the way to judge a book, but does anyone else think the cover is a bit uninspired?

I purchased Postcard whenever it came out, and kind of gave it a cursory listen. Then one afternoon I put my headphones on and listened to it from top to bottom, and doing that really elevated my opinion of it. A very good album.

Any idea how this did, sales wise? Can an artist like Al make a few bucks by putting it out?

Rocky, if it your objective to make things right and bring justice to this matter, why don’t you give a copy of the tape to Brian Wilson?

Because I took it even one GIANT step further... and took a meeting with Brian's Lawyers at the Mezzaluna restaurant... and PLAYED it for them! They, then, got me MY OWN Lawyer... Charles English... who got ME IMMUNITY!  And then the SH*T really hit the fan for MIKE... (to the tune of millions)...to know the rest... you'll just have to read the book when it comes out!  And it will COME OUT!

Rocky - help me out here...if Brian's attorneys have the tape, why didn't they act, since this is "to the tune of millions?"

THERE WAS PLENTY OF ACTION... JUST NOT MEDIA EXPOSED... UNTIL NOW!!!  I cannot tell any of you any more... you will have to read the book when it comes out!

Okay, the book, the book, I get it. But are you inferring that an out of court settlement took place? A Pauly Walnuts sit down? A Come To Jesus moment?

If so, it may account for Mike's current sour attitude. Interestin'.

Given that the events Rocky is recounting took place at a restaurant that has been closed for 20 years, I can't see the connection to Mike's current media gripes.

I believe he was just playing them for the group, and someone had a tape recorder.

Is that the case, or is it possible these were Landy 'scheduled' work sessions at Brother Studio, but I guess that doesn't account for poor quality.

The Love You demos are further proof that the songs are masterpieces.

ive been watching a Glen Campbell commentary. He said he got to sing with them on record.
What is the proof or any evidence of that?  unless he is talking about 'guess I'm dumb'.
any knowledge of that? singing wise?
edit: maybe he can sing flute

Best of my knowledge, he never sang on a studio session while in the band. Never played on "GV" either.

Maybe it was Carol Kaye?

Any idea on when Wipeout will be published, Rocky?

Yeah... any idea when you will come out of your BLACK OUT!   Damn DRUNK again and it's still daylight!  Course you don't know what time of day it is?  88688 and still counting... no that's not the number of drinks you've had today... that's how many times you've been laughed at today!  As well as how many times I HAVE BEEN READ!  Oops 88871 and SOARING!

So, no idea?

Any idea on when Wipeout will be published, Rocky?

Doo Dah, you have found the answer why Mike is so angry recently about the songwriting lawsuit from 1994.

He wants the catalog or money from BW when it comes up for ownership changes in under the 1976 copyright act. Actual songwriting credits on those songs be damned.

I'm just saying, it occurred to me last night. What would appear to be ancient history (circa 1992) is not quite so ancient.

BINGO...and Mike will do "ANYTHING" to get the ownership of Brian's Music Publishing Catalogue... "Actual songwriting credits BE DAMNED!  Well said Doo Dah... I take my hat off to you!  This is exactly what Stephen and I were hoping would happen..."TALK ABOUT and EXPOSING Mike!" Melinda Wilson is the "ONE" who really needs to be INFORMED... and made AWARE! She is very bright and definitely has Brian's best interest at heart!

At what point are you going to release the tape?  In your book? Or do you plan to post the conversation on this forum?

Well, I don't know how one would release a tape in a book... unless I had it transcribed... and it's very LENGTHY.  It's also "ONE" of the things that PREVENTS Mike from SUING ME!  That and the IMMUNITY Charles English got me... as a result of the meeting I took with Brian's Lawyers at the Mezzaluna restaurant in Brentwood! (Home of the Brentwood Butcher)

Maybe Mike found out and took it out on Ron Goldman...

Just curious, why would Stephen have been deposed at length for the Love-Jardine matter? Was it not regarding Al's use of the name Beach Boys, in his touring marketing? Just puzzled what Stephen, who would have been years removed, in terms of management, would have to add to the whole procedure.

85,000 Rocky Fans Can't Be Wrong

JUICED "miss" lonely but you know you only used to get... juiced in it... it will be 86,000 by the end of the day!  And ...let's see... by Monday... 88,000... PUSHING 90,000... and by the following Monday... "Ta Da"... 100,000 "Wha--OoH"    Keep JUICIN IT... JUICED!  YOUR MY GOOD LUCK CHARM!  

But ROCK, you never turned around, to see the frown...on the juggler and the CLOWN, when Brian slipped away from..you!!

85,000 Rocky Fans Can't Be Wrong

Juiced... MoDal.. it is ... I stand corrected!  Are you able to "stand"... it's after 3:00 pm!  Thank You... keep up the good work... Juiced!  You've gone to the finest school alright...    but you know you only used to get... JUICED in it!

Well it is St Paddys!

stan... even though your just a footnote in my book... why don't YOU TAKE YOUR FOOT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH for just a minute... and explain to the SMILE READERS... how when you FLUNKED out of basketball... and were UNEMPLOYABLE... NO DEGREE from COLLEGE... NO SKILLS... and your brother Stephen Love, Manager of the Beach Boys and Brian's Personal Manager as well... "Magna Cum Laude" as I call him... GAVE YOU A JOB... working for Brian... for $52,000 dollars a year (to drive up to Bel Air and EAT!)  Then Stephen forced you to give him almost every dollar of your pay to him... to INVEST for you in "MAJOR INVESTMENTS" with the rest of the Beach Boys... I say MAJOR... because when there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being INVESTED... there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being EARNED!  In your case... $750,000 dollars (all total throughout the years...that were basically GIVEN TO YOU!)  For example... "MODEL"... I believe that was a chain of Motels in Texas... where Stephen put about $40,000 of your money into it (some of which he borrowed for you)... ang YOU MADE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR... 20 YEARS... or was it 25 years (FACT CHECKERS do the MATH please... over $250,000) and when it was SOLD... Stephen GAVE YOU A CHECK FOR $175,000 DOLLARS!  Then there was BRUNER Oil... and the "SPAULDING RANCH" INVESTMENT (The one in question) where Stephen invested around $35,000 for YOU... and when as "GENERAL MANAGER" of that INVESTMENT He "LEGALLY" SOLD IT and "RE-INVESTED" ALL THE Beach Boys MONEY as well as HIS OWN... about $300,000 DOLLARS EACH... $630,000 in total) in PROPERTY IN HANALEI BAY (NOW WORTH 24 MILLION!)  BUT HE PAID YOU $170,000 DOLLARS CASH  even though your share was only $135,000... because he was once again taking care of his younger brother... and  you were BROKE!    Let's see... then when you tried to get your DAD to take out a SECOND Mortgage on his house... and he said he didn't feel comfortable doing it... that he couldn't SLEEP AT NIGHT!  stan "NEVER SPOKE TO HIS Dad AGAIN"... or Stephen!   OH... that was when stan had to take a JOB... for the FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE!  A job UNLOADING PRODUCE at a GROCERY STORE at night!  I can sure see why you would NEVER SPEAK TO Stephen again... stan! He happened to be at your Dad's house when YOUR Dad told you... "NO" on THE LOAN!   You Never SPOKE TO EITHER ONE OF THEM AGAIN!  You BETRAYED Stephen... for what reason??? SAVING YOUR LIFE!  STAN wrote Stephen a LETTER RECENTLY STATING... THAT Stephen was "DEAD" to him... that Stephen is a "LOWLIFE" calls Stephen "COCONUT"!   "BROTHERLY LOVE RUNS DEEP IN THE LOVE FAMILY"... Stephen ALWAYS LOVED Stan... would have done ANYTHING for him... and THIS IS THE THANKS he get's... and this is AFTER mike-y BETRAYED Stephen for sending him a telegram in India... saying... "Now is not the time to be stupid"... get back here and rehearse... before the next tour!     I guess you just can't take the word STUPID OUT OF... STUPID IS as STUPID DOES!  (in the IMMORTAL WORDS OF FOREST GUMP'S MOTHER!)   mike-y and stan call STEPHEN "COCONUT"!  Yeah... he was "NUTS"... for LOVING THEM!    

MoDal...for Motel Dallas I believe.

 

Steve Love:
"And as for the lawsuit Mike brought against Brian claiming he was deserving of 50% of the royalties from the songs, I know there were shenanigans that took place in that trial that hopefully will see the light of day in the future. I gave Brian all the ammunition he would need to undo the wrong done him when I was deposed at length in AUG 2006 in connection with the Jardine-Love case. I feel that Brian was royally screwed by Mike and his highly effective lawyers. They really snowed that gullible jury. What a travesty that whole thing was. I believe it is one of the biggest injustices ever to occur in the history of pop music!"

Looking back (with Love), what is Mike's legacy in the history of R&R?
Surely one of the most recognizable voices
Co wrote many songs vital to the American songbook
As mentioned on the board, quite possible the record holder for playing live to the most people.
Happy Birthday, Dr.Love

What is the band's all time best selling album? I'm taking a shot in the dark and saying it's either Pet Sounds, Endless Summer, or Sounds of Summer, but I'm having a hard time finding accurate sales figures.

Several compilations have gone triple platinum. The latest figures I can find have 'Best of the Beach Boys Vol 1' having sold 3.5 million units. SOS would be close, as would Endless Summer

  Segment 9: Just Desserts

     We drove to the Luau when Def Leppard came on the radio, and we started punching each other in the car to the beat. The first one to bleed lost... Brian bit my shoulder, so I punched him in the nose. There was a lot of blood on the floor of the car so we called it even. "I'll get you next time" I said to Brian. Brian laughed. "Have I told you about how much I hate Dennis?" I asked him. The car stopped and we were at the Luau.
     "Time for food, boys!" Marilyn trilled.
     "I bet they have a lot of food here" Brian said to me softly.
     We got inside and started throwing dollar bills in the air... Brian told me that I'm a cool guy, and I told him that I knew that. I flexed a little bit.
     We walked to the maître d'hôtel and asked for a table. He told me the tables were full, so I told him that I could beat him up. He said "Wha-Ooh" and rushed to find us a table. We followed him while yelling at other people trying to eat because we were strong men and we beat people with fist. There wasn't any werewolves here. Finally, the stupid waiter found us a table. BUT THE TABLE HE FOUND US WAS NEXT TO MIKE.
     I heard a deep, guttural scream from Brian that I had never heard before or since. "p*ssy alert!" Brian screamed. "You know what I do to pussies?" I took a karate pose to show we meant business, and Brian smashed a wine bottle against the edge of the table. "I STAB PUSSIES," Big B yelled, forcing veins and tendons to push against the skin of his neck. That's when Brian ran over to Mike and shoved the jagged edge underneath his jawline, sending him to the floor.
    Mike was crying in a pool of his blood, so we high-fived each other a bunch. Then we high-fived more. Marilyn was pretty into it.
    Brian sat down and tried to order, but I picked him up and held him over my head and ran a block down the street. "What about my grasshopper," Brian asked between bounces.
    Stan was running after us yelling about how he stole Mike's hat and that he might have died or something. I don't know. I'm too strong for emotions.
    I placed Brian down on the pavement, but then decided to pick him back up again because lifting him was a good workout.
    "How many reps are you doing," Stan asked.
    "Probably, like, a thousand," I puffed.
    We got back to Brian's house and drank all of his liquor while he sat in a chair and stared us.
    "You did double good today, Bri-dawg" I belched.
    Brian smiled. "Maybe I do good tomorrow, too?"
    "We'll see."
   

You forgot the part where Rocky later bones Marilyn!

That's covered in the next chapter, titled "Had to Bone Ya"

I should be OVER 80,000 reads by the end of tomorrow...  100,000 reads?... MAYBE TWO MORE WEEKS...  

I just clicked in 10 times to do my part
#team100,000

- Love Rock n Roll to the Rescue. First heard it at home on a Beach Boys special on the radio hosted by Casey Kasem. The FM never played good at our house so it was hard to hear but exciting to hear a brand new BB song on the radio. After it all it had been a year since Getcha Back. Liked the song and my brother and I were wondering if that was Brian singing lead. When he bought the 12 inch single on cassette later that year his repeated listens had him report sadly it wasnt Brian singing, just Mike sped up. So for over 20 years afterwards I thought it was a Mike lead vocal but I still dug it.
- Love the video. Brian looking like he stepped off the back of the Holland LP with that long hair unshaven look and he seems to get more mellow after changing shirts to the grey sweater. Every time I watch it I wonder why Carl cracks up so much over Al doing that dance move while they sit in that car.
- Saw the boys the first time that summer at Red Rocks just outside of Denver. Just showed up and bought tickets from a scalper. Southside Johnny opened for them. The opening song was Rock n Roll to the Rescue. To me it didnt sound as good as the record and Al blew the lyrics. Mike nudged him and pointed to a paper below Al's mic, where I presume the lyrics were taped.

Damn fine memories!

Little rocky was, and is, the bully.  Always has been...and he's writing a booklet to brag about it.  So how do you deal with a bully?  You pound the ever-lovin' piss out of him.  It's the only language it understands.  I tell you.  If I'd have been there when he decked Carl...he'd have been on his way to the hospital just as soon as ANYBOBY bothered to dial 911.

I have NO time for him or ANYONE like him.  The rest of his litany of abuse is...just that.
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Oh...and let me add to those who suggested along the way that it was wrong for me to pass judgment on this pile of excrement...if you needed more time to decide...then fine.  I'm good with your stance.  But if you haven't figured it out yet...then you HAVE TO BE some kind of dumb. 

It's ironic, in a way, when you mention dealing with someone in the only way they understand 'you pound the ever-lovin piss out of him'. It sounds so similar to Rocky's reasoning for pounding on Dennis. He felt it was the only thing that would get through to him, to keep him from giving Brian drugs.

Does anyone have a definitive list of The Angry 13?  AGD, Lee, Emily, John Manning...be nice to establish official credentials.

 

I don't believe Brian ever did "R&R to the Rescue" live with the band. They only did the song at a few dozen gigs in 1986, and Brian didn't even show for the most high profile gig they did the song at, the "Farm Aid" appearance from that year.

I believe Farm Aid has uploaded high quality videos of a bunch of their shows over the years, so you can get a nice looking and sounding version of the BBs, sans Brian, doing the song live there. I think Al handles most or all of Brian's parts. Ironically, I think that's the show where Al has a really scratchy voice, so what otherwise would have been a good lead performance is a bit marred.

Al's voice is in rough shape, and if you watch it, it looks like Mike steps up to double his lead a few times. I always thought Carl sounded awesome on this live version.
I mean, there is a bit of a cheesy slant to the song, but hey, it was the mid 80's and this retro nostalgia kick was very big. I'll be honest, the 80's Beach Boys fascinate me, in a way I have trouble articulating. Something about how they were kind of current and retro all at the same time.