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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 08:33:34 AM
Maxwell was recorded August 6. It was the last Beatles session John attended for a song that wasn't his. It was the most expensive recording the Beatles ever made which angered Lennon further. Ringo said that sessions for the song were the most horrible sessions he ever worked on. George couldn't stand the song either. The recording of this song was a microcosm of every COMPLEX reason the Beatles split. It was the figurative cornerstone that collapsed over their heads as a group. No citations needed. Do some research. Smiley
Thanks for the info. But, I'd like to hear the real reason you vote "Maxwell" against. Never mind the break-up, why to you it's the lesser track?
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 07:36:35 AM
OK, I get that you want an explanation as to why people are voting off Maxwell early in the Abbey Road Round, but when I provide the explanation as to why I think it's one of the weaker tracks, it doesn't seem to be good enough.
What you talk about? Said nothing like that. I got what you said, after your explanation I said "I too like energy but I like nice fun songs too. I see songs as the whole - "Maxwell" differs than "When I'm 64".". It doesn't translate "It doesn't seem to be good enough". I just replied back my view in reply to yours. That's it.

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Lets just be more mindful of how we express ourselves to one another.
I did not insult anybody in any Survivor game. I just ask questions why they dislike this song & that song etc. If those 3 people really felt insulted by such little thing, well...
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 07:25:00 AM
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It's the song that pushed John into leaving the Beatles for good.
Source? I recall there being many reasons. Beatles split is complex issue.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 07:17:51 AM
Yep. Sometimes RR's posts come across as needlessly harsh and tactless. I am inclined to believe  it is a language barrier issue.

It's just a game folks. Have fun with it.
I knew you'd agree with it. So it's bad thing to ask people why they dislike, in this case, "Maxwell"? Read the previous detailed posts, I explained everything.

I did not say not vote against "Maxwell" or sth. I merely try to understand, you know, why the dislike towards it. So it's still fun PLUS questions.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 07:12:37 AM
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But, I make a point, and your response is that I "don't read attentively."
If you read attentively & try to understand what I said before, you wouldn't tell me what you said. I tell you right here, answer your post about "you, at times, seem to take others' tastes a little harder" that  I don't & you still argue about it. What, you think I don't know me, what I post?
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 06:28:18 AM
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing to disagree with others' tastes.
I didn't really say it's not bad thing to disagree - naturally it isn't. I said it's not bad thing to ask why poster A dislikes song B, that they don't just say they don't like it but bring details & give full explanation. As I said, I'm curious. & again, people everywhere in the Internet - Smiley, PS, Youtube etc. - show shock, amazement, surprise at smb. saying they don't like their favorite song. "Wow, I never thought I'd see someone not liking [song title]" - posts like this everywhere. Then people ask why they don't like that song. So, it isn't just me who asks for explanation.

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but you, at times, seem to take others' opinions / tastes a little harder.
You're wrong. If you don't read attentively it's your fault, not mine.
Read the above but it's really repetition.
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: Today at 05:10:59 AM
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But, even as a song snippet, I prefer the energy and vocals to Pam over the When I 64-ish verses on Maxwell.
I too like energy but I like nice fun songs too. I see songs as the whole - "Maxwell" differs than "When I'm 64".

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And, there really doesn't have to be logic in musical taste.
Yes, it's cliched phrase. But, there's times when people read sth. & express amazement, shock at smb. disliking song they really like. I think asking why exactly you or smb. else don't like it isn't bad thing & it creates discussion. I'm very curious by nature & usually want to get to bottom of things, figure out others' differing opinions.

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It would be incredibly boring if everyone agreed about everything.
Yes, again cliched phrase. See reply to KDS.

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Right now I donít like the lyrics to MSH. If there hadnít been so many mass killings in the US lately it might not bother me so much.
OK, fair.

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Changed Maxwell to I Want You.
Do you tell me to explain the "She's So Heavy" pick when before it I said "Her Majesty" is trifle? I dislike the former since 2010. It's 7 years' dislike. HM is trifle but I really can't stand IWY(SSH).
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: Today at 04:12:28 AM
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Point is, it would be an on-the-spot judgement of something that deserves a little more in-depth attention and a little more familiarity that comes from regular listening over a longer period of time.
It's 50 seconds. I shall admit that some things you say don't make sense to me. Like now. But me being curious behind people's posts means I'd comment them &/ or ask questions. Some people really hate questions, it seems.

Today's song - it definitely should be in the official album run. 5.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: November 16, 2017, 07:15:49 PM
Can't you check youtube? It's pointless when people chime in to say things like "I don't know song X so I'll refrain from voting". Roll Eyes Here, specially for JK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00kGeyL9Sic

It's good shortie, tastefully done, good to hear Brian give Dennis crucial vocal spot. 5.
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: November 15, 2017, 07:19:23 AM
But don't you rmbr that Marion was frightened by many things too & she screamed? Is it "strong"? If she could beat the guys in bar in drinking contest, it doesn't mean strength, does it? Or when she used tricks to run away from bad guys. Ditto the other lady, she played femme fatale which to me isn't comparable with "strong woman". But, I asked you generally, don't you think if the script got rid of this point to add heroine to Indiana Jones it would be much better? Why not add guy companion to make the film adventurous, action-based & "inamorata"-free?
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: November 15, 2017, 06:44:00 AM
*Every* Indiana Jones female character is annoying. They should've cut the female figure from the script *entirely*. Don't you agree? I didn't get the purpose of Karen Allen in "Raiders" either. You could argue Marion's equally annoying as Willie Scott (Capshaw), if not more since at the start she shows that she's real tomboy, can be pals with guys, be brave, cheeky etc., then we see her scream & get frightened like any average woman. What they call it, pretentious? I like my adventure movies to be adventure movies start to finish without boring amorous plot line. It's big disappointment in latest horrors too.

Yes, enjoyed seeing Sean Connery, he was funny. "Last Crusade" is last in classic trilogy but the best, agreed.
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: November 15, 2017, 06:23:14 AM
Even despite the points given it's still one of the weaker songs? You mentioned it with "Her Majesty" but it's strange since HM is really inconsequential when "Maxwell" is fully realized Beatles song with everybody present in the mix. There's songs the same caliber or in similar vein as HM that are weaker than "Maxwell". F.ex. is "Polythene Pam" stronger track than "Maxwell"? & any of the short segment songs? This logic is beyond me.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: November 15, 2017, 06:04:48 AM
3 great songs & couple nice ditties doesn't equal 3 to me, even if it's short album. But, it doesn't equal 1 either. Therefore, it's 2. The bottom line stays - I don't really like it.
14  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: November 15, 2017, 05:58:22 AM
I never understood people's dislike towards "Maxwell". There is:

1) good melody, chorus catchy "as hell"
2) cool guitar flourishes
3) cool percussion/ synth which is cleverly added to add variety to each verse
4) humorous background vocals, the whole song is fun

What's not to like, can anybody tell?
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: November 14, 2017, 10:56:48 PM
You played the game at PS about ranking "Halloween". Do the same with "Indiana Jones". 1st to you is "Raiders...". Then?
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs you are obsessing over. on: November 14, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
Charming "If I Didn't Care" by The Ink Spots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_zodj-5Vo
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #13: Abbey Road on: November 14, 2017, 10:42:36 PM
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Gonna listen to Abbey Road a few times in the coming days to work it out!
Played AR today & I didn't like hearing "I Want You (She's So Heavy)". Everything is nails to the chalkboard in it. It is the vote.
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: November 14, 2017, 06:01:51 AM
Thanks - it's checkmarked. Did you see 1987 TV film "Bates Motel"? Apparently Norman died in asylum, befriended some young boy there (Bud Cort) & before going left his house & business to him if that boy is freed. When he arrives there, there is girl living illegally, then he strangely lets her stay & now they're business team. Throw in architect schemer dressing as ghost to frighten new host, young dead kids celebrating the prom night, lonely woman who tries to kill herself & nosy girl who keeps telling her don't do it.

"Psycho 2" should be better since Anthony Perkins/ Bates is present. But, it's messy script too. F.ex. Norman goes to work in cafeteria when he could instead re-open Bates Motel. Why Sam Loomis married Lila after Marion's "Psycho" shower death? What, ain't no women in Fairvale except the Crane sisters?

Yesterday seen "The Elephant Man" (1980) - I doubt I'd take this film seriously if it's colorful. The intro music - fabulous! Impressive that Lynch did it. What draws me to carnival music is it's 2 sides - joyful/ cheerful & psychedelic. The main character Joseph Merrick is very nice - true poetic type, esp. liked his well-bred manners & the fact that he didn't resent anybody at all, despite being treated badly by people. The real figure must be very easy to befriend. Btw, it bugged seeing people shouting at him - can't they quickly adapt to the way he looks? I don't mean Mothershead, Nora young nurse & the actress - esp. the latter, it's no surprise that smb. who acts wouldn't be frightened by disfigured human. At least that's my thinking: she wasn't frightened due to applying make-up or seeing the others do it for the role etc. She'd seen it all. I wouldn't say mother's very pretty judging by the photograph, surely not prettier than the mentioned actress (Anne Bancroft) or Dr. Treves' lovely feminine wife. Speaking of Treves, Anthony Hopkins may be good actor but sth. about this character, the way he's portrayed isn't quite developed. Actually, few times during film, fleeting idea kept nagging that smb. else should be cast as Treves. Maybe Hannibal Lector is such interesting character that Hopkins is associated forever with him. But let's go back to "Elephant Man" - the theatre inside is beautiful, Merrick looked happy. What doesn't make sense is him sleeping at his back realizing it could kill him - did he do it purposely; tired to sleep sitting; seeing picture in the wall decided to do the same to experience it, forgetting about consequences? Sad end regardless. It's really good film but, it's not yet 5/5. 4/5
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: November 14, 2017, 04:21:56 AM
4 - I like jazz. If Friends fell into this kinda music thru & thru, you can bet it'd be in my Top 5 BBs albums. 3D
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #12 Winner: HELTER SKELTER!!!!!!!!!! on: November 13, 2017, 09:13:58 PM
Super-cool to see "Helter Skelter" win! 3D

I didn't initially & still don't hear anything "iconic" in "Revolution 1" (single included, it's still the same song). It doesn't impress, to me it's just nice song. Ditto "Mother Nature's Son". Not really into Paul's acoustic stuff.

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An interesting take on the winners so far, by primary songwriter (in red):
No, it's predictable.

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It's touted by some as the first Heavy Metal song
It *is*, by many accounts. 3D They must be right. Incidentally, I definitely don't consider Manson link to be big deal.
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs you are obsessing over. on: November 13, 2017, 05:28:23 AM
New goodie brought by Larry in his ace blog 3D Webster's New Word "Henry Thachet"

As he says, groovy tune with cool drums & "still-jangling" guitars & I like the vocs. 3D
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: November 13, 2017, 04:59:58 AM
This, "Passing By" & "Be Here In The Morning" get 5's. 3 favorite tracks in Friends.
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: November 12, 2017, 11:48:27 PM
Recently, I'd seen these movies by youtube & downloads:

"Once A Jolly Swagman" (1949) with Dirk Bogarde, Renee Asherson, Bill Owen, Cyril Cusack. About some chap joining motorcycle speedway team & beating everybody. Not bad, didn't know this sport developed during that time. Some cool scenes but boring too. Nice to see familiar face Renee Asherson who played in BBC Miss Marple. 3.5/5

"Le Orme" (1975) / "Footprints" Italian mystic horror. Woman forgot the past 3 days' events, finds the postcard with some city's hotel pictured. Buys plane ticket. People there recognize who she is but by diff. name. Unhappy end. 3/ 5

"Attack Of The Puppet People" (1958) Sci-fi horror. Doll-maker decides to make people dolls in addition to real dolls. He feeds them, arranges parties then puts them back to sleep in the plastic doll cases. It's funny it's titled "puppet" - his friend has puppet theatre he travels with but it's real puppets, not human. 4.5/5 Too bad it's short, dolls is favorite theme in films.

"Beauty & The Beast" (2017) - Disagree with Belle's & Prince's cast. Te plus points would be costumes, the fact that songs weren't changed or given hip-hop & rap twist, well done computer Beast, scene with Le Fou singing praises to Gaston = highlight. BUT, I expected the movie to be interesting than the Disney cartoon. 2/5

"The Cat From Outer Space" (1978) Sci-fi comedy with Ken Berry, Harry Morgan, Roddy McDowall, Sandy Duncan, McLean Stevenson. Some of these appeared in M*A*S*H. Cat lands in the Earth. He looks for smb. to help repair the UFO to fly back home. Chooses the guy, enters his flat. The guy sees the cat & says "What's your name? Jake? You look like Jake". Then later, cat speaks: "My name is Zunar J5/9 Doric47." "Eh-eh...Zunar what?" "Why not just stick to Jake, OK?" Cheesy Such fun movie! It's good to everybody - kids with parents can see it & get kick out of it. I liked the cat, ofc. It's adorable. :D 5/5

"It" (2017) - mentioned it in Happy Halloween but I'd seen it again & like it less. "Ben sitting in library" scene is strange - 1st librarian tells him that it's not right for kids to spend time in library in the summer, he should go out, then the other librarian keeps looking at his back/ camera/ viewers. Favorite scene maybe is Pennywise dancing with legs moving to & fro. & let me tell this - I am huge fan of carnival / circus music. 3D 1/5

"Up The Down Staircase" (1967) with Sandy Dennis. Movie about new teacher in troubled school. I didn't see this actress before but she looks like quintessential teacher image. Perfect casting decision. I really was annoyed with female student who couldn't talk without her nosy friend's help. She'd tell her "Come on, go on speak up" & the other girl stood there like idiot. They should've showed it *once* & be done with it. The principal & half the teachers seem to be old-fashioned type. Ms. Barrett (new teacher) didn't get along with the way they deal with students in school. But she nearly gave up teaching these same students as well. I liked the music in this film, it's humorous at times. & really, it's good movie, there's many things to tell about it but, in short, it's 4/5.

"The Misfits" (1961) Last Clark Gable film, with Marilyn Monroe & Thelma Ritter. They say MM hated her performance & movie in general due to many reasons. Agree, not very interesting. Best thing - the friendship between her & older woman (Ritter), it's rare today if young & old people befriend, hang out together in cafes etc. Usually both parties ashamed, think they don't fit in with the other younger/ older friends. 1/5

"The Haunting of Julia" (1977) with Mia Farrow. Tbh, I think she's overrated. She doesn't change or try to, the same grimaces, she couldn't even be creepy nanny in "Omen" remake. Why did they cast her?? Anyway, here she plays devoted mother & wife but then the girl starts coughing, she choked by the food. Then right there, she dies. She then spends time in hospital but when ready to go home, doesn't go back to live with husband, it's finished coz her girl is dead. Buys new big house but finds out after spirit evening with friends that there lived family where kid died similarly. Investigates it. Boring movie reliving past, even same short haircut "Rosemary's Baby". 1/5

"Days Of Wine & Roses" (1962) With Jack Lemmon & lovely Lee Remick. Drinking guy marries non-drinker (she doesn't like taste...except if it's chocolate taste) but stupidly to support him, she starts drinking too. Wait, he convinced her. Not cool but it's her fault, she should've insisted. He then meets some chap who invited him to alcoholics club. He doesn't refuse but his wife does. He gets better, she doesn't. Sad but realistic ending. Movie subject isn't favorite but with actors' strength, it's 3/5.

"The Hitch-Hiker" (1953) Finally seen this Ida Lupino film, it's referenced in many classic vintage lists. It's great! 3D Cool to see D.A. Burger from "Perry Mason" playing criminal. Actually, it matches him. I sympathised with 2 fishermen, esp. when they got tired, exhausted by the hitch-hiker. The road scenery's beautiful. Best scene is when they do the 1st stop, the hitchhiker sits by the tree seemingly asleep BUT with the eye half-open. The 2 guys lie staring at him, about to escape, but they're confused by the eye. Then next time they stop to relax, they begin suspecting it can't be shut down but the bad guy sleeps. They start crawling to run away & could've succeeded but soon the baddie wakes up, 2 eyes open. Well-executed road movie, with cop chase, adventures, dialogs, terrific acting, photography & perfect ending to boot. 5/5
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #12: The Beatles (the White Album part 2) on: November 04, 2017, 06:49:54 AM
Shame about Yer Blues

Mother Natureís Son
Equally would be shame if song you vote off now goes. Tongue I'm glad about "Yer Blues". Smiley

"Revolution 1"
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Happy Halloween on: November 04, 2017, 06:41:52 AM
I see. Happy childbearing to the wife. I like "Garfield". My favorite comics after "Calvin & Hobbes". I wish new horrors made with & around cats. Maybe sth. dealing with witchcraft, cats terrifying city as spectres, gigantic cats in the same way as dinosaurs, feature film adaptation of "CatDog" cartoon series but humor-free, sth. about docile cats that hide mystic powers within - ideas galore. Maybe you'd seen horrors with cats?
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