The linguistic artistry of Phil Cohen.

Even despite the fact he was registered later? Anyway

Do you understand he's joking?

For me it was Help Me Rhonda being used in a Short Circuit film to getting 20 Golden Greats on tape and being blown away by H&V, God Only Knows, Don't Worry Baby, Good Vibrations. 

Then the Smiley Smile/Wild Honey 2fer was my first CD purchase (1992 I think), Pet Sounds after that and the rest is history!

#1 would absolutely be changing the amount/types of drugs Brian was taking, or as quoted at the start of the thread just him not using them at all.

#2 would be that around the early 70's they should have had better sense on choosing album content (something MIC really highlights) and, again to echo plenty of others here, for them to have kept on releasing records like Sunflower/Suerfs Up/CaTP/Holland in the late 70s instead of the Endless Summer focus.

#3 would be for them to have put 'I went to sleep' on the end of Friends instead of 'Transcendental Meditation'!

Again, I'm fairly disappointed by this release. WITBNTA, the alternate Meant For You, Where Is She?, My Love Lives On, Why, the two versions of California Feeling (let's be honest though, the demo is really primarily a novelty...), a couple of upgrades like Sound of Free and YLTLF, the Be With Me Demo, and I guess Barnyard Blues, these are the tracks I consider essential additions to my collection. There's a real "big-whoop" feeling among the other rarities and bonus material. I've had Mona Kana for a long time in relatively good quality on bootleg and it's a mostly uninspired track that I very rarely feel an urge to listen to. The instrumental tracks of DGNTW and TM are nice I suppose, but generally uninteresting, poor choices considering how many better choices anyone who spends 5 seconds thinking about it could probably come up with. There's one "new" stereo selection from Wild Honey, which of the ones to yet appear in stereo is actually the one that's already been circulating for some time. There are completely undesirable, bottom of the barrel selections like Da Doo Ron Ron, some dubious remixes of things like Rock and Roll Music, a slightly improved version of It's Over Now, which is a nice though certainly lesser song I doubt I'll listen to much more than I already do following the upgrade it receives.

I mean, sure, there's decent stuff here, some absolutely essential material appears here for the first time, but given the frustrating issues with the mixing and mastering, the overabundance of material everyone has already purchased several times (like on 50 Big Ones last year...), the poor selections of rarities and the fact that there's maybe a disc worth of material among the six included really worth having, and the fact that the thing is, there's no other way to put it, overpriced, I'm very satisfied that I elected to not purchase it.

I have so many things in my collection of boots that still need to be released, and a lot of it exists only in poor or very poor quality. There are really solid, original songs like California Slide. There are things like the decidedly more enjoyable early version of Santa Ana Winds. In the space allocated on disc 6 for material that already appeared on TSS, you could have probably fit in Brian's Love You demos. The list goes on and on, and that's only things we already have available to us in one form or another on bootlegs. Given what a treat something like Where Is She? and the extended Meant For You are, many of us are left drooling at the thought that the vaults still contain lots of little gems like these. We get all sorts of tantalizing bits, reports from insiders and privileged fans about some of the yet uncirculating material, hints dropped by Mark and Alan themselves about things like a deluxe reprinting of Friends with bonus tracks, I mean, few of us ever really dreamed something like the Wild Honey Surf's Up was out there until it suddenly appeared out of the blue.

Give the fans what they want already, either a definitive rarities box, or a deluxe reprinting of the catalogue with extra discs attached to each entry containing relevant unused material and outtakes, and possibly a contemporary live show here and there. I think it would additionally be a cool, and given how things were executed on TSS and MIC, even a prudent idea to recruit Desper in particular to oversee the mixing and mastering process, at least on the albums he was involved with, given especially the fact that he could then also restore those releases to the HD stereo he's demonstrated in his videos.

Great, and fair, overview of the set that pretty much echoes my thoughts.  Also agreed that the perfect reissue plan is right there for Capitol to use.  Albums with a second disc of unreleased tracks/demos/live tracks from the time.  Either that or a multi disc rarities box.

Mustn't grumble though, and thankful for all that the 50th anniversary has given, a world tour, TWGMTR and MIC

I can hear 'Cuddle Up' in there obviously and a riff from Steamboat there too.

Great track!  Time to re-order Surf's Up using some ideas from the other thread

You may remember Matt, people started recieving their Smile boxes before the release date. I'm hoping mine arrives on or around the 28th.

Indeed, I got my TSS from Sainsburys online and it arrived the day before release.

I'm flying to Japan on the 2nd so haven't ordered it yet for fear of it turning up when I'm gone and having to deal with the hassle of the Post Office to get it when I return.

HMV/Fopp are both saying Sept 2nd for a shop release so I'll wait til I'm back to get it unless those shops release early/same time as U.S.

Great post Matt and one which highlights perfectly my disappointment with the track listing as far as newly released songs (rather than versions of existing songs) goes.

Like you say I'll still be buying it and enjoying it no doubt.  Just like others here (in the other MIC threads!) this was the chance to get out some adult child stuff etc.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1489227/

This guy as Present Day Brian?

Interesting.

This sounds amazing!

When's your album coming out guys?!

Great work

Seinfeld contains three of the most obnoxious television characters ever (and not in any amusing or clever ways),

Naaah man you ain't getting it at all.  They're REALLY funny and the show is REALLY clever.

Apologies if you ain't seeing it.

Back on topic I will buy the box set, have the euphoric wonder of looking through the new book and playing all the hitherto unheard (by me) tracks, rip the tracks and then stick the box on a shelf to gather dust and maybe look through the book briefly again if I ever move house and have to pack it.

I'd love for a rarities only set of course and my biggest disappointment is the lack of Adult Child stuff on the set.

However, echoing AGD above, I buy Beach Boys stuff as a fan. 

The Smile tracks were a big pull for the Good Vibrations box set (was it really 20 years ago?!) but even then I did second guess myself making that purchase as I already had most of the tracks.

I like material stuff so whilst it is an option (and cheaper) to get the unreleased tracks as downloads I'll be buying mine to look through and admire 'cos I'm a sucker for product! 

Amazing work picassosson! 

If only you were in charge of Capitol's Beach Boys Reissues 

The covers are amazing, any chance of posting the reverberation and landlocked ones larger/on their own/without vinyl?

I only ask as they would look sweet as iTunes cover art for playlists

I'm trying to get the album art for American Spring but have found a few versions.

Does anyone know which is the cover to the US release?   It seems it got different covers in different countries.

It is titled just "Spring" and has a sculpture of Marilyn's (I think) face (Diane's is on the back cover) with greenish lighting.  (I was unsuccessful in posting a photo).

Thanks for that Les!  Much Appreciated

I'm trying to get the album art for American Spring but have found a few versions.

Does anyone know which is the cover to the US release?   It seems it got different covers in different countries.

Only heard Walkin' for the first time today, was this melody re-used for Morning Beat?  Sounds really similar!

Also not a question just a statement, just heard Lazy Lizzie for the first time too, where has it been all my life?!  Quality

Just finished watcing this (and the great 1969-82 follow up) and have to echo the comments of others by my disappointment at Bruce Johnston's opinion of Friends.

Each to their own but him saying that Friends shouldn't have been top 1000 (!) has made me question his taste/opinion of his own band! 

Andy Partridge WOW freaking superb musician/songwriter (and great guy) and not only another hero of mine BUT a fellow (nearly) West County boy ;-)) first met him in 1986 but that's another (long) story 

Awesome to see them together in that pic and awesome that you've met Andy Partridge.

Do Tell!

Firstly on the 'straight' saga, I would imagine most people would have read it as was meant.  Weird to think that anyone could think that 'heterosexual' was even  inferred from the context.  

Lastly back to the box, is there a finished version of 'Sherry She Needs Me' from the 60's, IIRC I heard a backing track track once with partial (backing?) vocals.

I'd also like to see official releases for Stevie and Lines.

The track of "sherry she needs me" from 1965 only needed a lead vocal to be finished.

        

Bummer.

Firstly on the 'straight' saga, I would imagine most people would have read it as was meant.  Weird to think that anyone could think that 'heterosexual' was even  inferred from the context.  

Lastly back to the box, is there a finished version of 'Sherry She Needs Me' from the 60's, IIRC I heard a backing track track once with partial (backing?) vocals.

I'd also like to see official releases for Stevie and Lines.

Gah a lot of these albums are nowhere near 'worst of all time', especially not if you like a few of the tracks on an LP.

I suppose 'I am not a fan of this album' for whatever reason is a more fitting description.

Thanks for the link rn57, interesting reading and nice to see WH get recognition.

I must admit I did a double take at the revolver/WH comment but for a non BB mega fan it's not the biggest error.

Love on a Farmboy's Wages is a fantastic track but Mummer is one of my least favourite XTC LPs alongside Go2.

[That is incorrect. As AGD stated, Capitol changed their plans after hearing about fan response."Small factual gobbet: the mono/stereo remasters were exclusively Capitol Japan's idea, but when the parent company noted the huge interest, they decided to release them elsewhere. Now, don't say I never tell you anything."]

On the pacjkaging issue, I wonder if we'd been more patient and not clamoured for the releases, Capitol might have not rushed the job through simply wrapped up like the Japanese issues. Who knows what their plans would have been for these remixes if we'd not barked "unfair" when it appeared the Japanese were getting them and we weren't?

We might never know…

If we only got them because of the success of the Japanese releases then other wise we wouldn't have gotten them at all I imagine.

Sales and response would have made the parent company notice (again if this is the case) but internet talkback wouldn't have made it a 'rush job' in the west as well.  

I can't imagine there was any 'plan' for the catalogue that got dropped to rush out what EMI Japan had done, doesn't make sense.

Yeah, I doubt our whining on this message board had anything to do with it.  I figured these were the "commemorative releases" Capitol was promising from the beginning.  

That is incorrect. As AGD stated, Capitol changed their plans after hearing about fan response.

"Small factual gobbet: the mono/stereo remasters were exclusively Capitol Japan's idea, but when the parent company noted the huge interest, they decided to release them elsewhere. Now, don't say I never tell you anything."

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13631.msg316041.html#msg316041

Yeh that quote is what I was referring to.  Maybe AGD can clarify, did 'huge interest' mean the actual sales of the CDs in Japan and overseas exports or fans in the west drooling over them or both?

On the pacjkaging issue, I wonder if we'd been more patient and not clamoured for the releases, Capitol might have not rushed the job through simply wrapped up like the Japanese issues. Who knows what their plans would have been for these remixes if we'd not barked "unfair" when it appeared the Japanese were getting them and we weren't?

We might never know…

If we only got them because of the success of the Japanese releases then other wise we wouldn't have gotten them at all I imagine.

Sales and response would have made the parent company notice (again if this is the case) but internet talkback wouldn't have made it a 'rush job' in the west as well. 

I can't imagine there was any 'plan' for the catalogue that got dropped to rush out what EMI Japan had done, doesn't make sense.

And can't forget Puffy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQPcXzvq7Rs (first single, sounding a LOT like ELO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVShbxb87Q (play count the power pop references)


OK...that's all...for now...I promise.

Love Puffy!

Speaking of ex Jellyfish (Andy Sturmer being the 'Phil Spector' of a lot of Puffy's stuff) check out Roger Joseph Manning Jr's 2 albums and also Jason Falkner's  

Absolutley amazing!

Great style and atmosphere, loved 'lil' Brian and Marilyn too

Thanks for posting it  

After repeated listening on long train journeys TFTO is now my favourite Yes album above Close To The Edge!