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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 20, 2015, 11:08:37 AM
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I don't know the backstage politics...but if everyone just "got along", I don't see why The Beach Boys can't just tour as a singular entity with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Jardine, and David Marks at every concert. They could maintain the current touring demand and probably get slightly nicer venues than some of the ones they get now. Then, bring Brian Wilson out every summer so it's not overly demanding to his needs. Let him have his own tour bus...he can pay for it.
Then that summer lineup could pursue the Wrigley Field and Madison Square Garden offers in the peak BB concert season, while the others "keep the summer alive" (as it were) in the frigid months. I'm sure there's less than good vibrations between Mike and Al right now, but aside from that...I don't see any kinks in this plan.
Contrary to the previous post, the kink clearly isn`t simply about 2012. The fact that this didn`t happen between 1998 and 2011 is evidence of that. One kink is that it wouldn`t make business sense for the 4 of them to go out together compared with the current touring. The increase in ticket sales would be negligible. Another is that I`ve never heard Al say that he would like to join the current touring band to do 100 shows a year. And to go back to the C50 touring style would require a lot more than just an extra tour bus. Somehow I can`t see Brian agreeing to pay for all of his musicians` expenses out of his own pocket and nor should he... No doubt! This idea would have been exceptionally more useful in 1998 than 2015. I must say, I don't really know WHAT Alan and Brian want... And to be clear, I wasn't suggesting a C50 touring style. I was suggesting a band the size of M&B with the addition of Brian Wilson for the summertime. The addition of Brian Wilson (one man) shouldn't equate to a dozen musicians doing the work for him.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 19, 2015, 10:25:47 PM
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I don't know the backstage politics...but if everyone just "got along", I don't see why The Beach Boys can't just tour as a singular entity with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Jardine, and David Marks at every concert. They could maintain the current touring demand and probably get slightly nicer venues than some of the ones they get now. Then, bring Brian Wilson out every summer so it's not overly demanding to his needs. Let him have his own tour bus...he can pay for it.
Then that summer lineup could pursue the Wrigley Field and Madison Square Garden offers in the peak BB concert season, while the others "keep the summer alive" (as it were) in the frigid months. I'm sure there's less than good vibrations between Mike and Al right now, but aside from that...I don't see any kinks in this plan.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 19, 2015, 04:29:16 PM
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Mike plays toliets of venues and loves every minute of it. He pockets the money with his ragged bar band.
Have you ever actually been out to hear this "ragged bar band"? Because if John Cowsill and Scott Totten were playing in a bar near me every night, I might have to take up drinking!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 18, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
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Just got home from seeing Mike & Bruce's BBs at the Austin Rodeo. After the bucking broncos and bull riding, a circular, rotating stage was hauled out to the center of the dirt arena and fairly quickly set up for the group to start. They only had an hour to play, so it was rapid-fire greatest hits all the way. Scott Totten and John Cowsill were both terrific. Jeff Foskett sounded good on the falsetto parts. I was not as impressed with the keyboard player, whom I had not seen before. Mike's voice sounded extremely weak tonight; he could hardly hold a steady note for a second. With the short length of the show, there were not many surprises. I was pleased they did the Carl video with GOK. And they saved Kokomo for the encore...and it got a huge response from the crowd. The biggest surprise, however, was when local boy Christopher Cross joined the group onstage and sang I Can Hear Music. Here's the video: http://shadownoze.tumblr.com/post/114020615508/the-beach-boys-at-the-austin-rodeo-with-guestChristopher returned for the encores of Kokomo and Fun Fun Fun. All in all, tightly-packed hits show that went over big with a not-so-typical BB audience. I'd love to hear "I Can Hear Music" one of these days...Christopher Cross, I could take or leave Seen him once and that was enough!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 14, 2015, 08:03:45 PM
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Mike and Bruce are coming to Cincinnati later this summer (maybe someone important read my plea earlier in this thread ). They are going to be playing with The Temptations. Does this usually mean the set list is going to be smaller or will it be a full show with The Temptations mixed in? Wow...MIke found a band with less original members than his to open up for 'em!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: March 14, 2015, 06:22:08 PM
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What's with all the condescension about the audiences for "touring band" shows? I mean I know in some of the footage sometimes they look a bit clueless, but surely more than 2 of them somehow managed to get through life and figure out who BW and AJ are.
Having been to five Mike and Bruce shows (which I know isn't THAT many compared to others here) I can honestly say I have NEVER talked to someone that knew anymore Beach Boys than Mike Love and Brian Wilson. Some might know that there were Wilson brothers, some might even know that Mike is a cousin...but many of them did not even know that Brian Wilson still makes music and performs live. My favorite one was when the old women (probably in her 80's) next to me asked her husband who Carl Wilson was when Bruce was dedicating "God Only Knows" and he said Carl was their father who managed them.....
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lesser albums by the BBs compared to lesser albums by their contemporaries
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on: March 09, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
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If the Beatles had stayed together as long as the Beach Boys, eventually they would have put out 1 or 2 plain awful albums. Thankfully, the former Fabs blessed us with such unlistenable solo works as George's Electronic Sound; John & Yoko's Two Virgins, Life with the Lions, and Wedding Album; Ringo the 4th; Paul's Off the Ground and ...well, that could quite a lengthy list. The cute Beatle keeps cranking them out, for better or for worse.
Off The Ground is a BEAUTIFUL piece of work. Pipes of Peace and Press To Play are the stinkers in the McCartney catalog.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \
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on: March 07, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
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Also, it's said that when the full moon is out... he assumes the form of a monstrous jackal-faced fiend and drips green bile all over the carpet. Hope Mike didn't have him stay over that night, that rug really ties the room together.
The rug under Wink's feet...or on his head?.......
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian announces new tour with Al and Blondie
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on: March 05, 2015, 04:56:17 PM
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Also the SD venue. I hope they can also book RAH if Mike doesn't mark his territory and leave a bunch of unsold BBs baseball caps around to dissuade the management.
It's also not very many dates for the U.S. i would hope there are more dates to come or at least he comes back in the fall for some more dates. Currently, it's exactly seventeen dates more than have been announced for Europe, and nine more than he played in total last year. Yes, but was there a US tour from Brian last year? When comparing this to 2013 (which nearly totaled thirty touring shows) this isn't even close to being "complete", by that standard.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Four Seasons
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on: February 01, 2015, 09:46:52 PM
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Only just discovered "Cry Myself To Sleep." Probably the saddest song I've ever heard.
It just amazes me how much music, really great popular music, was made back in the 60's. I was there for the whole ride and thought I pretty much knew it all, but in recent years have discovered I'd only skimmed the surface.
But, to keep this all aligned with the purpose of this board, what do you all think is the saddest song ever recorded by the Beach Boys?
Caroline, No......no if ands or buts!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 12, 2015, 08:19:30 AM
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From what I've read now, M&B seem to be one of the best Beach Boys tribute bands around! I hear Brian Wilson has a pretty good one too!... Before this gets out of hand.....how many bands from the 60's and 70's (regardless of lineup) have NOT become tribute bands of themselves? It's a nearly inevitable fate.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 10, 2015, 07:32:52 AM
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I know it's just a 30 second clip...but I think we can take a lot from it! First off, I think it further solidifies the report that Mike has a cold which seems totally evident...as is his reading of the lyrics on the floor... Secondly, Bruce sounds GREAT! I like having the lead vocal split between them. Hopefully this makes a return sometime soon...if they come close enough for me this year, this would surely be a highlight of the evening. The only real complaint (if you wanna call it that) is the band doesn't seem too into it...except Scott & John, as usual. Foskett looks incredibly bored... COMMENT --- He's not looking at lyrics (as if he needs them) on the floor, he's looking at the first three rows of people. It's a small venue. The only thing posted on the floor is the playlist. The band may look bored to you, but remember this is the last song of the show. They've been singing and dancing around for two hours before you see this snip of time. I would also comment that the sound is a direct feed. When you add in the acoustics of the hall (reverb and such) the sound will fill out and fill in. Listen to the crowd reaction. After the first short clip follows a three minute segment. ~swd I was referring to the clip of "Here Today"...not "Fun, Fun, Fun" which it sounds like is what you're describing. I'm not trying to be critical, I'm very much in approval of what Mike and Bruce are doing. I've seen their show five times and don't regret any of them!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 09, 2015, 11:01:21 PM
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I know it's just a 30 second clip...but I think we can take a lot from it! First off, I think it further solidifies the report that Mike has a cold which seems totally evident...as is his reading of the lyrics on the floor... Secondly, Bruce sounds GREAT! I like having the lead vocal split between them. Hopefully this makes a return sometime soon...if they come close enough for me this year, this would surely be a highlight of the evening. The only real complaint (if you wanna call it that) is the band doesn't seem too into it...except Scott & John, as usual. Foskett looks incredibly bored...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 06, 2015, 07:31:35 AM
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"Here Today" is very high on my list of songs I've yet to hear live!!!
I wish they would do it more...it fits right in with their show too...and it would involve Mike in the "pet sounds" portion of the show.
I don't want to jump to conclusions...but with a smaller band like this, I worry about the quality of "Heroes and Villains".
Don't worry RS13! We do the live BB version that they played all through the 70's not the record version we did on C50. I normally like to stick to the record versions, but I think the 70's live version rocks. And Cowsill sings the lead very well. It's a fun song to do and another one that amazes me at the genius of Brian Wilson. Scott I was just thinking Cowsill would be the man for that! That's a killer arrangement and is surely more suitable than the record. One question if I may...what inspires the inclusion of "Heroes and Villains"? Is it based upon the venue...or how you guys feel? It just comes up so rarely yet, is so vastly well-known.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 05, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
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"Here Today" is very high on my list of songs I've yet to hear live!!!
I wish they would do it more...it fits right in with their show too...and it would involve Mike in the "pet sounds" portion of the show.
I don't want to jump to conclusions...but with a smaller band like this, I worry about the quality of "Heroes and Villains".
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2015
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on: January 02, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
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Looking forward to seeing the Foskett Beach Boys. I imagine the sound is quite different than the Christian Love Beach Boys. The added musicianship just has to be a plus as well. anyone seen this show who has seen M & B in recent years without him? I must have missed a discussion of this........How do the shows compare?
I've only seen M&B once since the switch from Christian Love to Foskett so I can't truly compare it to the four concerts I saw with Christian. However, I think musically it was a better blend with Christian's voice. However, Foskett definitely has a better stage presence with M&B than Christian did. He never really looked like he enjoyed it all that much whereas Foskett fits right in to doing a guitar huddle on "Little Honda" or guitar bows on "Barbara Ann" or whatever the case may be. It's overall more visually pleasing and ultimately, I think that's what most of the audience at the concerts I've attended will remember. They'll leave saying something like "Golly-gee Pearl, weren't those guys just the darndest up there swaying back in forth together? And that Bruce Johnston was a-clappin'!" as opposed to saying something like "Didn't the harmonies on Why Do Fools Fall in Love sound extra top-heavy this evening?" Just my observation...
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