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1026  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: October 03, 2013, 09:27:31 PM
Wow, according to setlist.fm, instead of Little Deuce Coupe and Shut Down, they pulled out Custom Machine and This Car of Mine!  Who sang lead on those two?

F**K YEAH! Now THAT is the kind of car songs I was expecting from before...now, did Jeff play with them?
1027  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: October 03, 2013, 01:16:50 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/music/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-jeff-beck-at-warner-theatre/2013/10/02/11628bc0-254a-11e3-b75d-5b7f66349852_story.html

“Carl was a natural,” Jardine says. “There is a tendency to sing flat, which irritated the hell out of Brian. He was always telling us we had to think sharp.”

“If you don’t do that,” Wilson interjects, “you’ll always sing flat.”

Nice article! Can't wait for the show...hoping the setlist evolves a little bit more over the next two nights...still a few changes I'd like to see so if I shut my eyes, I don't feel like I'm at a Mike and Bruce show...
1028  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: October 01, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
Has this one been posted yet?

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2013/10/life_is_a_busy_beach_for_brian.php

It reminded me that early on, Al said they'd be doing some car songs with Jeff Beck to open the show...specifically, "Little Deuce Coupe" "Custom Machine" and more...whatever happened to that? Huh
1029  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Due to pending litigation? Here we go again. on: September 30, 2013, 04:17:22 PM
I'm just guessing the obvious...that Brain.....oops...Brian, Al and David didn't believe Mike and Bruce would be so eager to get back to their faux Beach Boys band. But we shouldn't be surprised, I mean, when was the last time these guys didn't anything intelligent on the business side of things?

Not that I think their decisions should be made on money at this stage in the game but aren't Mike and Bruce making more money touring in the stripped down version than from C50? I thought it had been said somewhere that Mike at least actually made less in 2012 then he would have doing his shows because of the high costs of that touring production, Brian's entourage, more beach boys etc.

My point: isn't he actually doing something intelligent on the business side of things?
1030  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 30, 2013, 01:18:04 PM
Wish Blondie was coming to DC! That sounds great!! I don't know how apropriate "Wild Honey" would sound with his voice nowadays though. That's not to say he has a bad voice, it's just a little different.
1031  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 29, 2013, 12:23:30 AM
Excellent to see Little Bird, Marcella, Darlin', and Pet Sounds...a step in the right direction for sure. With the exception of Darlin...I've never heard any of these live!
1032  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 03:14:59 PM
I'm sure part of what motivated this tour is a p'ing contest with Mike. Why else feature Mike type of songs? Adding Jeff Beck is another gimmick. I like both Brian/Beach Boys music and some of what Jeff Beck has done, but even if I were a huge fan of both, they don't go together. Maybe having Beck play on a track or two of a Brian album is okay, but a concert concept is forced. I remember when Brian toured with Paul Simon. Didn't Paul Simon wind up not liking Brian for that experience, or more likely, Brian's management? Oh, well. I guess exposure is everything, even though I doubt people who are fans of either men will emerge fans of both.

That part of it is just because they are hits I think.

Not all of them though...has Brian ever even performed Shut Down & Little Deuce Coupe on a solo tour before?
1033  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PM
As has probably been said many times, the concept of this tour is hard to understand. 

Tickets $$$$$$$ Tickets $$$$$$$ Tickets $$$$$$$

Does anybody find it a bit odd to invite David Marks along, essentially to feature his guitar playing (although I can think of another reason), and then trump that/him by inviting Jeff Beck to share the bill. Yes, I am aware they do separate sets, but when David and Jeff Beck are on stage together, it seems a little, I don't know, like it's putting David into the background, in the shadows, wasting his talent. Come on Al, say something about that. David was the heart and soul of those early songs.

How about we fire up those hot rods one more time.... I assume Brian sang lead on "I Get Around"; did he also sing the lead on "Little Deuce Coupe", and "Shut Down"? My kind of people, the car people!

Al took the leads on coupe & shut down...but they sound so ridiculous with a giant band. Mike's band..."blows em out of the water" when it  comes to these tracks...

And I don't think David Marks is getting shoved aside. The only songs that Beck plays on that Marks recorded is Surfin' USA & Fun Fun Fun.
1034  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
That does count as roughly a third of his set list.

If Al wants to keep putting it out there that they are the REAL beach boys and that their show is different and better and they dig deep...then it should be more than a third!

There is no good reason for them to play Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe, California Girls, Summertime Blues, I Get Around, Barbara Ann, Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun...leave it to Mike and Bruce. They do a better job on the early 60's surf rockers anyway.
1035  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 01:41:00 PM
This review should give hope to aspiring writers everywhere, because if you can't turn in something less overwrought, biased and badly researched, then I'd be very surprised. Awful, awful, awful... but at least it mentions some of Beck's songs.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/09/brian-wilson-jeff-beck-david-marks-and-al-jardine-debut-tour-at-south-floridas-hard-rock-live-927/

Yeah...awful is a good word. I don't understand the Mike bashing...of the 25 various songs Brian performs throughout the evening...only EIGHT of them haven't appeared on a recent M&B setlist.
1036  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 01:24:26 PM
Forget the Yardbirds' tunes - Jeff should do his old Stevie Wonder showcase (from the "orange" album) I Got to Have a Song, with Blondie steppin' out on vocals.

There's a good idea!!! But let's have the yardbirds...AND that material!  Smiley
1037  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 01:18:47 PM
Does Beck sing at all during these shows? I'm not much for guitar noodling. It's quite frustrating that two of Brian's most beautiful songs - Don't Talk and Surf's Up - are being played with THE MAN on stage and we don't even get to hear him sing lead on them.

Beck doesn't sing...at all. He's working with pretty much every classic rocker singer out there though...and now The Beach Boys are added to the list! LOL

Beck doesn't "noodle" either... Roll Eyes

I would really love to hear Brian singing those two songs though. I think it would be much cooler for this show to be one continuous thought. Essentially, lessen the numbers in Brian's band, include Al David & Jeff Beck, and just do a 3 hour show of back and forth with each other's music. Now THAT would open the floor for creativity.

And don't take the band member comment too seriously...I know I was almost burned at the stake last time I suggested such an abomination... Roll Eyes
1038  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
I hope that Brian, Al and David make it over to the U.K. next year...but without Jeff Beck. Nothing against him but listening to an hour of his songs instead of an hour of Beach Boys music wouldn't appeal.

I just read in the recent rolling stone that during the five days of rehearsal the only thing Brian said to Beck was "Do you wanna check your tuning?" LOL
He said Brian just stared at the ground the whole time...

I'm looking forward to Jeff Beck more than Brian at this point. He's a better musician than any of the beach boys. Better songwriter? No way Jose. But he's arguably one of the greatest guitarists alive.
1039  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 12:38:07 PM
Brian did great on God Only Knows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfhBYimut1M

Um... you listening to a different audio to me ? He's adequate, passable, but some way short of great. He's done much better, and recently.

Hey man I'm trying to be positive. Compared to any other live performance he's done this year, yeah, this is great.

I'd label that one bad. As almost all of Brian's "God Only Knows" performances are. It's a shame because the band is SO spot on every time. It's like listening to karaoke.

Let's put this into perspective here guys. This is the best BW decided to (or could) give us earlier this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPVOt0ceTVw

On the GOK clip, at least he's in key for most of the song. And he even pulls out a vibrato towards the end. Which I haven't heard him do in years...

But since we've gone there... just have a listen to the 2002 BB Kings Show on Youtube, for everyone saying he keeps getting better....

Both clips are drastically worse from the C50 show I saw last year. "Please Let Me Wonder" sounded AMAZING. It sounded like the record, I was blown away. He really nailed "Surfer Girl" too. I really wish he would let Al Jardine sing the Mike Love vocals. Mike's voice and Brian's voice are about as distant from one another as possible. At least Al is the middle ground.
1040  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Brian did great on God Only Knows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfhBYimut1M

Um... you listening to a different audio to me ? He's adequate, passable, but some way short of great. He's done much better, and recently.

Hey man I'm trying to be positive. Compared to any other live performance he's done this year, yeah, this is great.

I'd label that one bad. As almost all of Brian's "God Only Knows" performances are. It's a shame because the band is SO spot on every time. It's like listening to karaoke.
1041  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
I thought they were supposed to do some Yardbirds songs? Jeff's set looks pretty short. I'd say Brian fans are getting plenty of music, though the setlist is really boring.

Jeff's songs are all about double the length of Brian's songs. Really hope the set gets more interesting honestly...going to be a good show either way.
1042  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 28, 2013, 05:45:52 AM
Wow...no full set yet!

Hoping things expand over the week....
1043  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
Curious to hear what any VIP moneybags types say they are working up in soundcheck. LIKE THE NEW STUFF.

Yes indeed. Honestly, there is very little that excites me about that list of songs. Surf's Up & Don't Talk are unique...but Brian isn't even singing them!
1044  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 09:11:12 PM
I hope that's lacking a little...or a lot...
1045  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 08:58:28 PM
HA! nice...I'm very intrigued!
1046  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 08:34:54 PM
Well, that's not exactly what I was expecting to read! Do we have anymore song info yet?
1047  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
I don't think so. Says the Seminole Hard Rock here which is tonights location right? Another warm up perhaps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRvP5QmgqO8

I wonder if they did like a "preview" show for family and friends or something...there's definitely a decent crowd there.

Brian didn't sound so hot on that one...actually, Brian didn't really sound at all...
1048  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: M & B Tour 2013 on: September 27, 2013, 02:05:30 PM
I saw them in June in the San Jose/Saratoga CA  area and they did Wild Honey, Isn't it Time, and All this is that.
In Charleston at the Clay center last Sunday these songs were gone.  Replaced by Summer Means Fun and Going to the Beach.  And they did Darlin at the Clay center and I don't recall it from Saratoga.  I actually got a set list from the Clay center from one of the crew but I don't have a setlist from the Saratoga show.  And of course, the Carl footage singing GOK was added to the more recent show, not there in June.  The vocals seemed to have improved over the past three months, surprising in that they shouild be getting a little hoarse after the long summer of touring.  Cowsill's percussion was hot last week but when I saw them in June, he was on fire, playing a very powerful set.  Actually, Mike looked and sounded better last week than any time I can recall since somewhere in the late 80's or early 90's.  I had the impression that they were actually in competition with Brian and company on who could put on a stronger show.  They played their asses off and really seemed to connect with the audience right up to the last second when they left the stage.

The two shows I just saw left a very competitive taste in my mouth too. We'll be able to compare soon!
1049  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R09pu9rVK0

A clip! Must be a warm up gig before the opening show. Hollywood Hard Rock Café. 'Surfin USA'

Sounds pretty good with Jeff!
Holy Shoot... that solo was INCREDIBLE HAHA!
Wow, sounds really great, Jeff adds the power the almost perfect band "needed"! :D

Incredible is spot on! Even Brian's vocals were decent! Does this mean the hollow grand piano is gone?...I hope!
1050  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: September 27, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
Anybody going tonight???

I won't be there...mainly because I live in Maryland, but I'm also playing bass for the Rocky Horror Show tonight!...anyways, hope we have some great reports coming in here tonight...I'll be there next Saturday!
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