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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 18, 2018, 06:24:09 PM
Why torture yourself? Wink

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

You're not wrong. I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Scott Totten and John Cowsill. It's always a treat to hear them handle the catalog so carefully. As for new memories though, I'll just stay away. I've had lots and lots of interactions with Mike and Bruce. They've been nothing but excellent with Mike. You're right about Bruce. They've gone both ways. What bothered me about Bruce last summer, was that I did not engage or deserve the comment he made. It was a bit more than "slagging off". For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 18, 2018, 04:05:27 AM
Why torture yourself? Wink

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.

There was a report of it here at the Woodlands Tx c50 show too.

It was the most bizarre interaction with a "celebrity" (if you want to call him that) I have ever encountered. He went out of his way to make a problem.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 17, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... Cool

Which I'm delighted to hear at The Kennedy Center on November 5th again. Why are you on this thread if that's all you have to contribute?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 17, 2018, 06:42:29 PM
Why torture yourself? Wink

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 17, 2018, 06:12:22 PM
Definitely a "no" on the Strathmore for me...they'll be in Baltimore Sunday 12/2 for a 6pm show...still waiting to see what the Christmas show actually looks like...
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: September 04, 2018, 07:58:45 AM
Mike and Bruce will bring the "reason for the season" to the Strathmore in MD on 12/10...Monday night, with an hour drive down, work the next day...and for what? Might wait until the tour kicks off to see what this is all about and consider a ticket then.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: August 21, 2018, 11:45:53 AM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc

I realize that is just one camera perspective and not optimal quality in audio either, but that was pathetic. Hardly anyone there and zero energy from the crowd whatsoever. All the lead vocals were rough from all the "loves" that afternoon...band seemed tight as usual, but lead vox were falling mad flat all across the board.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: August 17, 2018, 09:28:52 AM
Good Lord...The Final Performances of Pet Sounds from 2016-2019...how weird...but how totally Beach Boys.

Also, I'd say this clears up any speculation on a full reunion for Glastonbury!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: August 16, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  Grin

In the past, it seems they've played longer shows at Ocean Grove. I would definitely expect it veer beyond 2.5 hours.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: August 13, 2018, 07:12:55 PM


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 31, 2018, 03:51:23 PM
Why didn't they include Blondie Chaplin in this?
After all, he was an official Beach Boy (even if it wasn't for a long time) and has been an important part of Brian's shows for years.
Ricki Fataar seems to be more or less retired, so I understand why he's not there. But Blondie should have been there!

If the purpose of this was after all the hoopla, to simply promote the symphonic record, which Blondie doesn't appear on, why would he be there?
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 30, 2018, 07:59:00 PM
Well if that doesn't illustrate division, I don't know what does.

This is VERY weird.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Definite Smiley Smile Message Board's Song Ranking - Ranking Process on: July 27, 2018, 02:26:10 PM
1. God Only Knows
2. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
3. This Whole World
4. Add Some Music To Your Day
5. Please Let Me Wonder
6. The Warmth of The Sun
7. Till I Die
8. Wouldn't it Be Nice
9. Heroes and Villains
10. Good Vibrations
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 26, 2018, 06:03:59 AM
If they end up singing In My Room would be a good choice as the high part is doable for Bruce .  I prefer no others singing especially Foskett who always sings over them and altering the blend


That's also a great choice. I also can't tell if the previous poster was being sarcastic or not about "Friends"...do you really think Mike and Bruce would make public appearances plugging that? They barely touched "Wild Honey" and Mike is all over that record. Plus, David Marks had absolutely 0% involvement.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 25, 2018, 09:32:15 PM
I don't see why this would be happening without the pairing of a major announcement...but I don't see a major announcement as an album or tour. I also think anyone that considers for a second that even a fully reunited Beach Boys would be a header during any part of the Glastonbury Festival, is fooling themselves. Besides, as it has been pointed out, Mike's touring is already fairly well outlined through June 2019. But, it is worth noting that he is in the UK in June 2019 as that's where the schedule currently stops. Anyway, I see a major announcement as perhaps something more archival. Perhaps a massive live release or an online resource of unreleased live materials. Perhaps the scrapped box set of the C50 tour that's long overdue. I don't know how many listeners it has attained regularly, but perhaps they're amending the initial Sirius/XM announcement of a limited summer run, and announcing a permanent station for The Beach Boys' channel.

HeyJude also mentioned something that is currently my number one interest (assuming they will perform at least one song together): Where will Jeffrey Foskett be? That's a whole big ball of awkward right there. Say this is their last time singing together as these five Beach Boys...I'd like it to actually be just that. Put Brian or Bruce at the piano to outline vocal parts and have the five sing a simple arrangement of something sweet...just them...warts and all. No sidemen. No Fosketts or Tottens. Mike on Bottom to Bruce's falsetto on top with David, Brian, and Alan in between on something like "Surfer Girl" or "God Only Knows" or "Till I Die". That would be a beautiful thing.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Back in the USSR the 1st Beach Boys parody? on: July 23, 2018, 03:25:44 PM
The Turtles- "Surfer Dan"
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love/touring group Christmas album on: July 18, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Holy sh*t he looks old. Like...triple digits. Also...how could anyone be excited by this garbage?...
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: July 17, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
I am also greatly concerned by this. It's not my place to be as I'm not Brian...but it really saddens me because as others have said, these sorts of things don't get better. Back pain only increases.

Back pain only increases, but that may well be true wherever he is. If he thinks dealing with pain on tour is preferable to dealing with pain at home, thatís his decision. Sit on the tour bus or sit in the recliner at home. Find moments to stretch or walk on tour, or at home. Take prescribed medication on tour, or at home. Maybe he figures as long as heís living, he may as well live. Iíve heard life is for the living.

(Iíve also heard I ought not sit around on my ass smoking grass, as that stuff reportedly went out a long time ago. I dunno about that part.)

You really can't say anything on this board that doesn't 100% support whatever Brian Wilson is doing at every waking moment, can you?

I hope he's enjoying himself. I hope he is in strong spirits. I hope he can do this for the rest of his days and that there are many of them ahead of him. But none of us know. It's not my place or yours to assume what he's going through. All I've said is that I'm concerned for Brian's health and that back pain only gets worse. Do you know anyone that has had a successful back operation? I'm not criticizing the man. Yes, life is for the living. Live it up.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: July 17, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
I am also greatly concerned by this. It's not my place to be as I'm not Brian...but it really saddens me because as others have said, these sorts of things don't get better. Back pain only increases.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: July 16, 2018, 04:39:33 PM
Carried to his piano...?

I wonder if she meant via wheelchair? I hope this isn't as literal as it sounds...
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: July 10, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!

I've noticed that Bruce's keyboard is MIA when they are lip-synching to one degree or another. I've also noticed that when he plays live, he is often playing vocal cues on very soft electric piano sounds, or simply playing nothing at all (this is usually the case...) So, I'm sure they see no need for the additional expense. Also, I wouldn't consider him an additional frontman. Frankly, he's a backup singer at that point.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

More likely a slew of dancing Mrs. Clauses...surely Mike will be the big man in red...
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: July 05, 2018, 10:38:27 AM
Just watched...seemed like Mike was desperately trying to read a prompter that was too far away.

I'm pretty sure they sang with a recording of themselves. The harmonies were thick in a duplication kinda way. As previously mentioned, there were also some moments were it was easily noticeable that there were "two Mike Loves" singing at the same time.

WAY better than last year...but truly, jut the same old shlock.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: July 04, 2018, 12:37:55 PM
I'll YouTube this lyp-synched shlock tomorrow...better things to do tonight...
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