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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If I meet Mike and Bruce is it OK if I'm wearing a BW Pet Sounds shirt? on: October 14, 2017, 08:24:29 PM
I would avoid Bruce at all costs regardless of sex. He's a loose canon and has no problem chewing out hardcore fans for no legitimate reason.

What pray tell, is a "loose canon"?  Is that something like the BBs' post-Holland discography or BW's solo discography?

Forgive my missing "n"...thanks for coming to the rescue to make a meaningless correction on something everyone around here knows damn well to be true. I'm also failing to find the humor in your statement regarding the discography as both the BB's post-Holland as well as BW's solo works have had deserving success as well as deserving flops and everywhere in between.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If I meet Mike and Bruce is it OK if I'm wearing a BW Pet Sounds shirt? on: October 13, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
Male or Female? If Male, it's irrelevant. If Female, wear as little as possible...for Mike, that is. I would avoid Bruce at all costs regardless of sex. He's a loose canon and has no problem chewing out hardcore fans for no legitimate reason.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Lindsay & Brian Wilson Aborted Collaboration on: October 11, 2017, 07:51:37 PM
Hmm...not necessarily a recording console. That could be at one of their houses for all we know...

Actually you can see faders to next to Brian's left arm. So yeah, in the studio.

By the way, am I losing it or doesn't anybody else remember something about how Brian and Mark were working on some kinda material for The Beach Boys in like 2012 or so?

Oh wow! What a dumbass am I.  LOL   So my memory was right after all, my eyes just failed me!  LOL
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson & Joe Thomas on: October 11, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
I think you'd more likely see Nelson Bragg join Mike's band than Bruce joining Brian's. For numerous reasons.

 LOL LOL LOL

Has Bruce's role in the late 90's ever been explored or explained? Was it ever a thought for him to NOT continue with Mike? Obviously it behooves Mike to have him (and at the time David) to up the "official member" tally, but I can't picture Bruce doing anything else in the genre, like attempting to have his own outfit like Alan. If he were to hang it up then, I think he'd have gone in a totally different direction again...maybe classical composition, modern record production (again), or just simply surfing.

What a strange, strange asshole he is.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Lindsay & Brian Wilson Aborted Collaboration on: October 11, 2017, 12:55:41 PM
Hmm...not necessarily a recording console. That could be at one of their houses for all we know...I also notice that Mark took a page from the Gospel of Mike with self-promoting on his own clothing so that people remember who you are.  Wink
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson & Joe Thomas on: October 11, 2017, 12:54:27 PM
Gotcha...I can't quite picture Bruce in Brian's lineup!
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson & Joe Thomas on: October 11, 2017, 10:22:00 AM
The Imagination DVD actually gives a decent idea of the approach Joe presumably had in mind. Footage from the 1998 St. Charles show features a very AC approach -- along with Bruce and Christopher Cross auditioning for the Jeff Foslett role ...

I have no idea what you're talking about (not doubting it, just confused)...are you referring to Bruce as in Bruce Johnston? As in, Bruce Johnston showed interest in being with Brian Wilson over Mike Love?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Lindsay & Brian Wilson Collaboration on: October 11, 2017, 09:51:12 AM
Mark says he presented them to Brian...and I seem to recall a photo on FB in the Fall of '13 of them at the console together. I think it's likely that Brian did "something" with them and as all too often is the case, they never went anywhere. I guess Brian didn't actually contribute any new ideas or anything except maybe some vocals?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Opinions On Jeff’s Falsetto? on: October 10, 2017, 01:54:11 PM
I have never cared for Foskett's voice. There have been shows where he's sounded better than others but all in all, I've never cared for it.

One thing that needs to be clarified, is that Mike's band has never had a sole "falsetto guy". They all rotate this role around the band from Foskett, to Totten, to Ike, and even Bruce still sings a fair amount of the top line. It would seem the key to staying in Mike's band is versatility (wide vocal range/multi-instrumentalist) OR...be Bruce Johnston.  LOL
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 05, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
The band sounds fine on "Unleash The Love"...I'm assuming it's the touring band. But the lyrics are just as trite as I'd expect. Also, despite the attempts to beef it up with autotune, Mike's voice sounds very fragile on that track. I'm still not convinced I should spend money on this.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 04, 2017, 07:08:54 PM
What a joke. I don't have any further grievances than those that have been listed but this is just ridiculous.

Someone in the inner circle should be making a stink about the Beach Boys name on the cover, since normally Mike would be the one to do that...and I'm not saying he wasn't justified in the past, but this is a prime example of what he has constantly bitched about with the other guys...and don't get me started on Brian's Back. All the hundreds of songs he could've recorded, and that makes the cut? He has to know what he's doing.

What store is actually going to carry this? I don't see physical copies of this existing anywhere beyond his website and Amazon.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: September 26, 2017, 05:08:56 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  LOL

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Weirdest Photos Of Mike Love You Can Find on: September 25, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
Why a hat in the pool?

The hat was what bothered you in that photo? Not the twenty-pounds of gold beaded costume jewelry around his neck?
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: September 25, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Blondie is always around before and after. Alan typically takes time to sign for fans from the stage and on his way to the bus. Unless you shell out for VIP, Brian isn't happening.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Weirdest Photos Of Mike Love You Can Find on: September 24, 2017, 08:24:59 PM
uhhh...just what exactly were they checking each other for?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Article/Interview - OC Weekly on: September 22, 2017, 04:45:52 PM
I wonder whether "guitarist Bruce Johnston " enjoyed this article.

What is up with "guitarist Bruce Johnston" and his glasses in this picture?! Looks like he just had his cataracts done!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: September 19, 2017, 04:46:25 AM
I was considering getting tix for Monday's show in Lancaster even though the crowd at that theatre is a total drag. BUT, if all those Wild Honey songs are out of the set again, I can't justify paying that kind of money to see the same show a third time.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Get well Bruce! on: September 17, 2017, 08:00:06 PM
I totally agree about his keyboard, however Scott Totten told me that Bruce is plugged in audible on Darlin (main piano), certain parts of Good Vibrations, and Disney Girls. Maybe Scott is just saying this to keep up Bruce's reputation, but I honestly doubt that he would lie to me.

Scott gave me the same reply several years ago too. When they play "Disney Girls" I can hear his cheesy electric piano sound...but I've watched for him on Darlin & GV and I can't pick anything out that he's doing. I guess it's just me!
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Get well Bruce! on: September 17, 2017, 03:45:03 PM
Despite still being bitter about his inexcusable blow-up at me last month, I will take this moment to wish Bruce a speedy recovery...the band needs him. Those clips solidify two things...first, his voice is crucial. I'm stunned that they're just letting that go. You'd think that somewhere in the vast universe of the Beach Boys, they could've found somebody on the West Coast that could sing those harmony parts. Second, his keyboard is utterly inconsequential to the audience mix. He is playing sometimes, but I sat right in front of him for the whole show last month and studied his motions. I did not hear one note from his keyboard the whole night. If this is what the future looks like, Mike will need to make lineup changes again to even out the harmonies.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beatles comment on Pisces Brothers? on: September 13, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
I don't know but something tells me it would go like this:

Paul: I heard it, yeah. That's the thing, really, is that George was a beautiful guy and inspired others.

Ringo: I haven't heard it. (after being informed he heard it yesterday) Oh was that the one? Yeah, well, it was great.

Accurate.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson and George Harrison: things they have in common on: September 07, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
Yes, I've always thought this. Also, much more in common than say oh I don't know...his so called "Pisces Brother" Mike Love. If Mike and George were alike, Mike wouldn't have written that piling of dog doo about it.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which is better: That Lucky Old Sun or That's Why God Made the Radio? on: September 03, 2017, 07:39:27 PM
Luck Old Sun is a more consistent product...but 'radio' has a few songs on it that just blow the whole 'sun' record out of the water. That being said, 'radio' also has some absolute garbage. It's all over the place.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \ on: August 29, 2017, 04:14:15 PM
In My Concert they do Pisces Brothers, Summer in Paradise, Ballad of Ole Betsy,  and Good To My Baby, THOSES ARE UNDERRATED

I'm with you on three of those four.  I can't say I'm a fan of Pisces Brothers (though Scott Totten plays a nice solo). 

Scott Totten...makin' sh*t shine since 2007.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \ on: August 25, 2017, 08:24:55 PM
I saw M&B for the 4th time last week. It was the night after the Beacon show in which they did "All I Wanna Do", "I'm Waiting For The Day" etc. I was hoping i'd get that setlist, but hey, I'm a dreamer. It was still pretty good though. A little under 40 songs with at least a few non-hits like Good To My Baby, Kiss Me Baby etc.

Some thoughts:

Positive!

-Scott T and John C are rockstars.
-I've never heard Jeff sound better
-The sound was the fullest I've heard from the M&B band
-Mike sounded like Mike. To be fair, when Brian sounds good, he doesn't sound like Brian anymore. (That's not a knock. I would literally die for Brian Wilson.)
-As a straight twenty something male, Bruce singing Disney Girls makes me melt every time.

Other thoughts!

-Please retire Pisces Brothers. Please. For the love of God, please.
-Please retire Summer In Paradise. Please
-California Dreamin'. Every time I hear them play it, I'm always thinking, "guys, this will NEVER be your song", and I even thought that during C50.
-Getcha Back - use the original lyrics.
-Could do without Why Do Fools and Then I Kissed Her.
-Mike using McGrath's Do It Again vocals. Why is he so proud of this?
-If you call it the Wild Honey tour, you need to do more than the two singles from Wild Honey.

Here's a dream (but within reason, I think) setlist for the M&B band that would please both the average and hardcore fan.

The Beach Boys
Wild Honey Tour 2017
 
Set 1

Surfin’ Safari
Catch A Wave
Little Honda
It’s OK
Hawaii
Do It Again

Wendy (Bruce on bridges)
Surfer Girl

When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
Kiss Me Baby
Please Let Me Wonder (Bruce)

Darlin' (Jeff)
Aren’t You Glad
Here Comes The Night (Brian E?)
Country Air
Wild Honey (John C)

In My Room
Dance, Dance Dance

Be True To Your School

The Warmth of The Sun (Scott T)
Don’t Worry Baby (Jeff)

Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around

Set 2

California Girls
You’re So Good To Me (Bruce)
Let Him Run Wild (Scott T)

Sloop John B
I’m Waiting For The Day
Here Today
Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Jeff)
God Only Knows (Carl)

Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring
All I Wanna Do
I Can Hear Music (Brian E)

Disney Girls (Bruce)
Heroes & Villains (John C)

Do You Wanna Dance (Dennis)
Help Me Rhonda
Kokomo
Good Vibrations

Encore:

Surfin’ USA
Barbara Ann
Fun Fun Fun


Heck I'd take that and that's without adding anything they haven't played recently outside the Wild Honey tracks.
Honestly I'd see them 10 more times if I knew without a doubt they'd play All I Wanna Do every time, that's how much I love that song.

Same here.  I'm also kind of hoping for a nearby Christmastime show. 

Man, now that is a killer setlist. BUT, it needs to be in the right venue. Also, I'd swap "Country Air" for "Let The Wind Blow" just so we could get another lead from Mike. Not knocking the band, but I'm very pro-original member leads as much as possible. They are, after all, the reason any of us started going in the first place.

What would truly be nice, is if whoever does their booking would book the blocks of tour dates at the same types of venues so if for example, the month of September they had twenty shows booked and they were all theatres, then you knew you could get a "deep cuts" set. And on the otherhand, if say they do thirty-five shows the month of July at state fairs, minor-league stadiums, resort cities, theme parks etc. ...it would be perfectly clear that those will all be the same meat and potatoes set.

When they bounce back and forth between the style of venue, you always wonder if a song might "spill over" from the night before...like the experience you had with the gig after The Beacon Theatre. You can look at the setlists that follow that show and slowly watch the album tracks fade out of the set.  LOL
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \ on: August 25, 2017, 07:18:19 AM
Thanks...that's the way it goes. If he really didn't want to sign anything (and I wasn't even asking to sign anything!) he should have just taken ten more steps and gotten on the bus peacefully, instead of going out of his way to create this confrontational BS. If I had been faced with silence, I would have just figured he was exhausted, off-stage, and not up to talking...totally cool.

Anyway, technically I had never heard Mike and Bruce do "Cotton Fields" with Cowsill on lead, but I heard it on C50 and nearly every time I've seen Al as well, but Cowsill gave it a great lead too, just an unusual selection. Other than that, I had heard all of these songs many, many times. The energy is still there but what enhances the repetitious tunes, is a shake up in the deeper cuts of which there simply were none...short show, long tour, I get it...I guess I should have seen it coming.

But you do raise a good point in that, a lot of the...we'll call them "second tier" songs could be shifted with no audience backlash. The opening surf songs can be in constant flux minus 'safari' and 'usa'...same with the car songs except "I Get Around". Of course, the standard three PS tunes have to stay, plus California Girls, and once they reach the point of about "Help Me Rhonda" it's pretty much set in stone from there out...but the point is, there is a LOT of room for fluctuation inbetween there that casual fans wouldn't care one way or the other about, and hardcore fans like us would appreciate.

Maybe my rant is over now.  LOL
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