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76  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson's Bambu is getting a vinyl release for RSD '17. on: March 22, 2017, 11:58:25 AM
Note how the Taylor Hawkins remake of Holy Man is not on it.
77  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson's Bambu is getting a vinyl release for RSD '17. on: March 22, 2017, 11:55:24 AM
http://recordstoreday.co.uk/exclusive-releases/rsd-2017/dennis-wilson/

The artwork is here.  I wanna know why it's two discs. What will be on the second LP?

The website is french but bare with me, you'll find the tracklist of this release here:
http://disquaireday.fr/

Click on "vinyls" and then go to the letter "D" and click on ya boi Dennis Wilson et you'll get the tracklist of this Bambu reissue.

Spoiler; there's no new material, the whole thing is just spread on the two vinyls as in with all that space it gives a less compressed sound, for a better quality audio experience, they've been doing that for a while now, see Dig Out Your Soul by Oasis on vinyl that can fit on just one but that is on two vinyls.
78  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances) on: March 21, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
HOLY MOLY
HERE I AM WITH MY TICKET I JUST RECIEVED FOR SEATLLE
AND I WAS CROSSING FINGERS ON THE THIS THREAD FOR THE DEEP CUTS TO STAY OR CHANGED FOR OTHER COOL STUFF
BRINGING UP LOVE YOU

AND NOW WHAT?? BRIAN BRINGS THE NIGHT WAS SO YOUNG???
AND FEEL FLOWS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
79  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston records \ on: March 21, 2017, 08:33:52 PM
But if anything i'm very happy this bump created a such vast conversation and people to find out about the cover whatsoever.
80  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston records \ on: March 21, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
Interesting how they rid the song of all the car references on the 2nd verse. This must have been during that period of time when car songs were considered so "uncool", even for Bruce.

Everything about this cover tries to murder the original format because of how "uncool" it is, it tries so hard to be your folky/country-ish vibe typically from the early 70s and even the touch of female chorals of soul of the times, etc,  the slide, the saxo, couldn't be less subtle about it really, it just comes off so adult contemporary which is possibly Bruces speciality.

With his remake of Pipeline, Here Comes The Night and now this, Bruce definitely earns the title of the worst arranger.

Give a listen to Don't Run Away and try saying Bruce is the "worst arranger" with a straight face. He's certainly had his share of missteps, but he's also done some KILLER and underrated work.

Where? not trying to be aggressive, Don't Run Away as much of a nice little tune it is, is like The Nearest Faraway Place: just a work of an hommage, a student work, that's how i always felt about his better work.

With his remake of Pipeline, Here Comes The Night and now this, Bruce definitely earns the title of the worst arranger.

Give a listen to Don't Run Away and try saying Bruce is the "worst arranger" with a straight face. He's certainly had his share of missteps, but he's also done some KILLER and underrated work.

I'm a fan of his input on the 20/20, Sunflower, and Surf's Up albums a lot. 

I'll even admit that I think Endless Harmony is one of the few highlights on the KTSA album

What's fascinating is that Bruce cultivated his over the top cheesyness and cornyness throughout the years:

From Tears In The Morning comes Endless Harmony then gives birth to She Believes In Love Again... the later is pleasant because of how it fits in the 80s dated ballads and on a not crazy album, but Endless Harmony? phew, good lord..

Tears In The Morning is just a big nono, so much better songs to replace it, from Good Time, Back Home to Where Is She, etc... even Dierde beats it, his own other song! i feel this one maybe his best work because of how it compliments the rest of the album and is an okay composition overall, unlike Disney Girls who comes off too easy listening to me especially on an album where it doesn't feel quite right, but good for him to get his only classic track with this.

Well I guess if Bruce did such a lousy job with it, Brian could have helped him out, you know, being in the employ of Equinox and all.  Oh, er, never mind....

Also I think the changing the car lyric reference was an attempt to make the song more contemporary in nature....though it was hardly noticeable in the first place....

So what's the point, Brian didn't do anything about so it should be considered good? didn't Brian produce that Be My Baby cover by Mike Love? is that another cover to be considered a classic too?

In terms of the original BB recording, I've always felt it was *near* perfect. The middle eight instrumental bars always take away from it for me. It's not a guitar solo. It's chords. It always sounds like something else belongs there. It has no melodic interest for eight measures in a piece that is virtually overflowing with melodic interest.

I disagree. To me that is one perfect "less-is-more" instrumental break.

Agree with JK, i don't think people realizes how much Don't Worry Baby has going on, melodically speaking it's super rich, that break is a beautiful breath of fresh air, liek when you're drivin' the car with the wind in your hair for a little while.
81  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: March 21, 2017, 07:54:08 PM
I've been listening a lot to Country Air lately and i've been wondering, all the "hmmhmm" humming in the verses, is it intentionally done like that or is there a story where like Mike couldn't come up with full lyrics and they left it blank?? i know this sounds silly, but i thought it could be a possibility
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston records \ on: March 16, 2017, 01:12:08 AM
With his remake of Pipeline, Here Comes The Night and now this, Bruce definitely earns the title of the worst arranger.
83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston records \ on: March 15, 2017, 11:38:56 PM
Sorry for the sudden bump but i just found out about this and it's truly the most god awful cover of Don't Worry Baby i've -ever- heard.
84  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Where to buy Darian Sahanaja's \ on: March 15, 2017, 06:32:21 PM
Anyone for a PM to download the single?
85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why no new album in 1975? on: March 15, 2017, 03:37:10 PM
Sweet and Bitter? Not familiar with that one...

It's from 1970 after Sunflower sessions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9En27eb2gMQ

Leaked out of the blue in 2013, i believe we never heard of that song existence beforehand.

I wish Dennis replaced Mike on lead, sounds like it would fit him more and compliment better the song overall but still a pretty nice lil' late 60s style song, you know? in fact i always thought it sounded pretty similar to The Letter by The Box Tops.

The "Sweet and Bitter" song was posted by a guy named Don Goldberg who had done a few sessions with the band around 1970. He also posted two other songs done with the group with his own vocals; one was his version of "Out in the Country", and the third was a song called "Fading Love Song." I think the latter two tracks had some BBs on the backing tracks, but no vocals.

I'm not sure if anybody ever confirmed whether "Sweet and Bitter" is in the BRI vaults. Goldberg may have the only copy. It's an interesting song, with a unique and spunky Mike lead vocal. But I also recall that the version Goldberg posted clearly had some overdubs that sounded like they had been recorded *much* later than 1970; they sounded more late 70s or maybe even 80s. That makes me think Goldberg retains the original multi-track for the song, as he was able to remove and record various elements at some later date, almost certainly without any BB involvement.

I would tend to doubt "Sweet and Bitter" would surface on a BB compilation, the mere ownership of the song and recording may be in question to begin with.

Well, the original Youtube uploads by Goldberg himself has since been shut down for copyrights claimed by Brother Records Inc, so does that tells us anything.. ?
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: March 15, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
Glad i could help! i thought everyone had it and i was alone looking for it haha
87  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs That Would Have Been Better With Different Lyrics on: March 15, 2017, 12:32:21 AM
I think that the song "Summer In Paradise" would possibly have been a hit(and a better song overall), if it had different lyrics. Keep the Bruce verse(with different lyrics, obviously). I think the "ecology" theme may have still worked if the lyrics weren't so, well, goofy and corny. The references to other songs is what really kills this song. But despite everything I've just said, I really like this song. Except for that damn saxophone! It would have been so much better with some Byrds styled Rickenbacker guitar.

I was actually asking myself, has there ever been an actual hit song about ecology? come to think of it, why would Mike Love bother, even if it's a topic dear to him to give it a try and push it as a single when he was trying to surf on the success of Kokomo, if people loved Kokomo i don't think they wanted to hear his political cheesy thoughts, but then again, i guess if he saw Kokomo as his Good Vibrations then SIP was probably his Pet Sounds, so i take it as this was him being adventerous, that is to Mike Loves degree of course.
88  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why no new album in 1975? on: March 14, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
Sweet and Bitter? Not familiar with that one...

It's from 1970 after Sunflower sessions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9En27eb2gMQ

Leaked out of the blue in 2013, i believe we never heard of that song existence beforehand.

I wish Dennis replaced Mike on lead, sounds like it would fit him more and compliment better the song overall but still a pretty nice lil' late 60s style song, you know? in fact i always thought it sounded pretty similar to The Letter by The Box Tops.
89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's leadership of the band on: March 14, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
For a little context, that was the same show that Bruce personally took my C50 meet and greet photo from me, bent down to greet me at the edge of the stage and ask who I wanted to sign it (since he already had) and took it all the way across the stage to have David Marks sign it for me (Mike also intercepted it and signed AGAIN).

 LOL  LOL  LOL Somehow that's the best part of the whole anecdote, hilarious, i wouldn't expect any less from Mike Love.

Then at the Lyric Opera House in Baltimore last year, they played on his 60th birthday and brought out a great big cake and had pictures on the screen of him and Paul McCartney at the Grammy awards in 2012 while the band played a bit of "Birthday". He was totally beaming in the moment, as he rightfully should, but I couldn't help but wonder if any other band member would get that treatment?

The other day while looking around on Youtube to see their recent shows and what song was played i saw the similar event for Scott's birthday, however while happily surprised he soon refocused and stay professional looking at the band to keep the show going.
90  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine and John Mayer New Song?! on: March 14, 2017, 09:28:29 PM
Song is terrible, how is an acoustic ballad teenage love type song that sounds like anything else John Mayer did Beach Boys influenced?
91  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why no new album in 1975? on: March 14, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
Unfortunately we don't have some of these track as bootlegs even. If they are decent, why would they still be in the vaults?

Um... Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again? Where Is She? Sweet And Bitter?? these have been hidden in deep dark for many decades.
92  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's leadership of the band on: March 14, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
If you went to a Beach Boys show in, say, 1980, then maybe Dennis might have been kind of wasted, and Brian might be kind of spaced. But Dennis still would put a lot of gusto into playing the drums

I'm still impressed with Dennis performance on the "Good Timin" Knebworth show, i thought he stole the show, his drums on Surfin' USA oh my !!!

I had the opportunity to meet and talk with Fosket at a solo house performance a few years ago in NJ. I found him to be a bit aloof, self centered, and just really "into himself".....seemed to me like he thought he was a big star....bigger star than he was. He wasn't rude or anything.....at least not to me....but there was an air about him that he carried. I must say, I didn't care for him.

That's the basic vibe I've gotten off of him after many years, and this goes back to before he left Brian's band and moved to Mike's.

If anything, I found his post-Brian interview in 2014 where he talked about the stress of the job kind of weird, because I always got the sense he was *totally* into being the guy you usually had to get through to talk to Brian. Not that any job, and certainly *that* job, wouldn't have some stress attached, and stress that would build up over years and years potentially. But I typically got the sense that he got off on being the guy any fan *or* musician *or* celebrity might well have to go through to get to Brian, just in a literal logistical sense.

I've also heard of some very slightly odd fan encounters. Nothing heinous (as mentioned above, never any rudeness per se), but definitely an ego thing. I recall one odd report in the early 2000s of Foskett being at a small fan gathering and pulling out what he claimed was a rare Brian cut nobody had heard, and I guess everybody found it too awkward to point out that he was playing "California Feelin'", which had already been released. At this gathering, he allegedly also claimed that in 1998, *all three* touring factions (meaning Brian, Mike, and Al) had asked him to join their bands.

I can probably safely say this years later; I remember talking to the famous Bob Hanes some years back and he talked about a period of time in the early-mid 2000s where Foskett was vying for, in Mr. Hanes's words, being "King of Brian", not meaning controlling Brian or anything, but rather being the main guy attached to Brian.

The characterization I've heard from many regarding the ego issue is also interesting because there is that interview Foskett gave in the 90s (after leaving the touring BBs, but before joining Brian's band) where he talked about his dismissal from the touring band in 1990 and that he admitted he had a serious ego problem that led to his demise at that time.

Yeeaaahh this sounds way too true to what i've suspected to see just from the idea i get on footages, like how the dude got involved in Pet Sounds live, SMiLE recreation in studio and live, the 50 anniversary albm and touring (where his shinning spot was right next to Brians piano, and let alone how he's the first one steppin' in to introduce the whole og band) and other examples i'm probably skippin' at the top of my head.

That alone is enough for a man to think he's the sh*t and above everyone else, too important for anything less than that, so i can't say i'm surprised by these stories..

Which all ultimatly makes me sad, as in Matt Jardine could and should have filled all these all along, a much humble guy who's related and with a much natural falsetto (Jeff seriously creeps me out sometimes i gotta say, he comes off like a robot doll or something)

Thanks for being so generous and sharing these Smiley
93  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 4th Of July - appreciation thread. on: March 14, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
I have listened to that link far more than I like to admit and I am no closer to discerning anything even resembling  Dennis' song than I was the first time. LOL

Yeah, it's very.... "free" to put it that way, pleasant none the less
94  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: March 14, 2017, 03:22:39 PM
Not that anyone cares but just in case, i found the original i believe of the profil photo i was looking for:
https://we.tl/jipdNrSsZR
95  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Favourite song from each BB album on: March 13, 2017, 10:23:50 PM
Surfin' Safari: Surfin' Safari
Surfin' USA: The Lonely Sea
Surfer Girl: Surfer Girl
Little Deuce Coupe: Ballad of Ole' Betsy
Shut Down Volume 2: Don't Worry Baby
All Summer Long: Girls on the Beach
Christmas Album: Merry Christmas, Baby
The Beach Boys Today!: Please Let Me Wonder
Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!): You're So Good To Me
Beach Boys' Party!: There's No Other (Like My Baby)
Pet Sounds: Caroline, No
SMiLE: Surf's Up
Smiley Smile: Little Pad
Wild Honey: Country Air
Friends: Wake The World
20/20: I Went To Sleep
Sunflower: Cool, Cool Water
Surf's Up: Feel Flows
Carl and the Passions: All This Is That
Holland: Funky Pretty
15 Big Ones: That Same Song
Love You: I'll Bet He's Nice
Adult/Child: Still I Dream Of It
MIU Album: My Diane
LA (Light Album): Angel Come Home
Keepin' the Summer Alive: Goin' On
The Beach Boys: It's Gettin' Late
Still Cruisin': Somewhere Near Japan
Summer in Paradise: Lahaina Aloha
That's Why God Made the Radio: From There To Back Again
96  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lyrics to Getcha Back re-write? on: March 13, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
I'm thinking, with this stories and other news we've had as Mike Love going back to studio to record with John Stamos: could he be doing the revisiting """"""""Beach Boys Classis""""" (according to him and his ego) that he originally wanted to do with Brian before it turned into TWGMTR? if so, do you think SIP inclusion in the recent setlists is an indication of what he's up to tracklist wise
97  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's leadership of the band on: March 13, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Foskett's musicianship is way better than Christian Love's...but his ego is a close second only to Mike's.

I hate the dude for his voice but know so little about him, what has come off so egocentric from him?
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's leadership of the band on: March 13, 2017, 02:09:23 AM
If Mike's leadership of the band is so terrible, then maybe Brian, Al, and the estates of Dennis and Carl should revoke his license.

IMO they definitely should. It's a tough call, and it is good that the music is being kept alive in live performance by the touring band, but the minuses outweigh the pluses, again IMO. The ongoing cheapening of the brand is sad to behold (no classic rock band worth its salt would ever tour under their original name when the other surviving original members are willing to join them for at least part of their touring itinerary, as Al and Brian probably would). The 25% of revenues that Brian receives from live shows will probably make the issue a non-starter though.

What's the value of a such tour if it's just a daily job without anything to propose or promote? this goes with Bruce comments in the interview above, they became what he didn't want the band to become, as of 2017, it's not even a matter of a good brand, it's a cheap on going dragging fair, thoughtless, they're playin' Pisces? who in the world wants to hear that? it's hurtin' the name more than anything, add to that the endless redondant compilations (but that's Capitol, they've always been cancer when it comes to that, they'll sell anything)

There's a reason the C50 was a such success..

Saddly with how that ended, as long Mike Love's alive i don't see any option to that, he thinks it's his band for sure.
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's leadership of the band on: March 13, 2017, 01:55:56 AM
Mike played a fake plastic sax live during Kokomo while a backing band member really played the solo!

no-way, please i gotta see this!!!!
100  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 4th Of July - appreciation thread. on: March 13, 2017, 12:44:01 AM
Has always been one of my very fav Beach Boys recordings, it anything from Carl and Dennis can be captured and summed up on both their talents in one song to compare to Brian and still stand up, this is the one.

I love Surf's Up, and it's great as it is, but it has some more meh songs on, and now we got to hear both 4th Of July and To Live Again, it's hard to look back at the album without the alternative reality feeling mixing up your judgement... altho i do understand the "too mellow" one could complain about.

PS: I already posted this in a covers thread, but since it's the topic here, for all the 4th Of July covers we'll ever find,
there's this jazz reinterpretation of the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeWN-yDdBXQ

Yeah i know it sounds nothing like it, don't believe me, look it up, it is credited as Dennis Wilson on the cd itself:
https://img.discogs.com/1eI_pxI-3v5O6J43nIYDUQE2HOM=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2634166-1294261697.jpeg.jpg
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