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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
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on: March 31, 2016, 10:19:11 AM
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I'm disappointed to see songs like Wake the World, Add Some Music and especially Honkin' getting cut already. Hopefully they are not cut permanently. Aside from the Pet Sounds portion, the first set and the encore having nothing new from the No Pier Pressure setlists except Honkin' and Funky Pretty. That's why I really hate to see Honkin' already being cut.
* I know Add Some Music didn't make it's way into last years set until late in the tour.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce - Pre 2012
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on: November 21, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
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Sheriff, reference the set-list friction. I SAW it firsthand prior to the C50 Cleveland Ohio show in middle of June 2012. My wife bought us M&G/Sound check tickets for the show. Fantastic experience. After 7 or 8 songs Brian yelled over to Mike, lets do Marcella. Mike responded "we" don't know Marcella. Brian says, "Mike, my guys know Marcella". So...then everyone stops for a moment and the principals make their way, along with Totten, over to Brian's piano. A lively discussion went on for a minute or so, not yelling, but it seemed opinionated to me with Mike saying a lot during that short time. It wasn't a yelling match by any means and even being in the first row, I couldn't make out what was being said. But observed alot of tension.
Also during the sound-check, Mike was on the phone ALOT when he wasn't part of a song being practiced. I thought this was strange at the time and have thought about it alot since, as I've read all the threads since the breakdown of C50. No way of ever knowing but one just wonders if by June 2012, the breakup at the end was already in the cards.
One final event from the sound-check. Totten kept Al over at the end to practice the end to Help me Rhonda. Somehow the previous night at the Cincinnati show, Al screwed up his ending and Scott wanted him to practice. A disagreement between the two occurred on how it should be played at the end. Finally Scott says to Al. "Al, this is how we play it NOW" and he walked away. Al stayed, practiced it a few times....took off his guitar....looked down at everyone and just shook his head and walked off. Again in retrospect, it was just very sad to see in person knowing what we all know now.
I did get to shake Al's hand at the M&G. Mike was very personable to my wife as we had the picture taken. He also wanted to know at what show I had bought my Beach Boys hat. Kind of strange in retrospect, but I think he knew could tell it was from an M&B tour.
It was a great evening but looking back, did I see stuff that, now having 3+ years of reading these threads, that was the beginning of the end.
Reading that really rubs me the wrong way. It's ok for Brian's band (who made up most of the entire C50 band) to learn songs like Still Cruisin', Kokomo and Ballad of Ole' Betsy but Marcella shouldn't be played because Mike's two band members don't know it? Tough sh*t. Learn it. There were five surviving members of The Beach Boys on that tour and each and every one of them deserved to have a say in what songs should be performed. To have a reunion celebrating 50 years of music only to perform a greatest hits show (mostly consisting of a songs from 3 or 4 years) wouldn't have made sense and would have been a HUGE wasted opportunity. No offense but who is Scott to tell Al how the end of Help Me Rhonda will be performed? He may have been the musical director but Al is a Beach Boy. He should show more respect for a Beach Boy. If the Beach Boy who sings the lead of that song wants to end it a certain way, then end it Al's way. Change your way of doing things for one tour. Then when the touring version of Mike's band goes back on the road, go back to how you end it. I just think that's absurd and it's a shame that fans who paid to sit in on that soundcheck had to witness crap like that. I would have been livid.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson / Al Jardine / Blondie Chaplin Fall 2015 Tour Thread
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on: November 20, 2015, 09:03:41 PM
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RubberSoul, I'm sorry to hear about your loss and I hope you enjoy Brian's show.
I attended the Durham show last night as well and will just back up what NickandthePassions said. This was the third show of Brian's I've seen this year (Fox Theatre in Atlanta and The National in Virginia being the other two) and it was great for some different songs to show up in the set. Brian seemed to enjoy himself most singing Drive In and Add Some Music. Anytime I can hear Wake The World live is a plus in my book. I really hope with the Pet Sounds tour next year Brian keeps Blondie on tour with them. At all 3 shows I've been amazed out how much Blondie's rock&roll attitude and sound bumps the show up a notch.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dylan's New Archive Release - The Cutting Edge
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on: September 26, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
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Most Dylan fans are complaining about the price. If you don't believe me, go over to the Hoffman board and read the 100+ page thread on this release. It's hard to say if a BB release like this would do well. I don't think it would considering they've released session boxes behind their two most popular albums already. If they did a release like this of Friends I'd buy it in a heartbeat but I don't think many people other than board members here would be into it. I do think the BBs could release a multiple cd box set of live shows that would sell well. Either a collection of full live performances from '65 - 95 or a multiple show collection from the '73 "In Concert" recordings. The reason the Dylan release works is because the '65 - 66 period covers material from three great albums (Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde On Blonde) AND he recorded live in the studio including vocals. So if you have 6 versions of "I Want You", you have 6 different performances of "I Want You" usually with Dylan trying different arrangements, tempo changes, etc. on the song. It's not your typical, "let's try this again but have the bass come in earlier" or "let's try this again with the drums not so loud", etc.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Forthcoming-ish Archival Releases ?
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on: August 03, 2015, 03:05:55 PM
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ghostly mentioned the Dead. Wouldn't It B Nice if the Beachboys would have encouraged taping like the Dead? We could have had a treasure trove to explore like the dead heads do........maybe even a Beachboys satellite radio program..
That would have been nice but it was a completely different scenario with The Dead. Their setlists changed every single night and they would improv making the same song sound different from one night to the next. That is why they gained such a loyal following that would record and attend as many shows as possible. It would be great to have more live recordings from the late 60s - early 70s but recording every show during the late 70s to present would have been rather pointless. I personally don't need 50 different live recordings of Barbara Ann and Be True To Your School from the 1985 tour. With those later shows, it's best to just hand pick some of the standout shows (like a '93 box set show, an '88 show with This Whole World and Forever, etc.) Having said that, I do think if they had recorded every show of the C50 that it would have been worthwhile. I think if they would have released them for download or on cd (like Pearl Jam) during 2012 or shortly after, a good amount of people would have bought those as souvenirs of the show/shows they attended.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 14 Beach Boys albums coming to vinyl/SACD
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on: July 30, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
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It would be nice if anyone on this board who has contact with Brian Wilson's camp could let them know that there is an issue with NPP on vinyl so it could be fixed. The noise during Last Song is clearly a pressing issue since everyone who has bought the album on vinyl and listened to it has the same problem. It seems like something someone would want fixed.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Forthcoming-ish Archival Releases ?
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on: July 28, 2015, 04:41:49 PM
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I'm not expecting anything but I've always wondered what happened with the Carnegie Hall shows. Here's a small bit posted by Howie Edelson back in 2009:
"The Beatles aren't the only '60s icons preserving their legendary catalogue and vault; the Beach Boys' team is hard at work cataloging the thousands of tapes which make up their archive. The team -- chief archivist Alan Boyd and producer/engineer Mark Linett -- has recently collected all of the known elements of the band's unfinished 1967 album Smile, and have now uncovered the multi-tracks for the Beach Boys' two historic concerts at New York's Carnegie Hall on November 23rd, 1972.
For years, only half of one of the shows has been available in pristine stereo on the underground market. Boyd says that the band's company Brother Records is in possession of all of the multi-track masters of the shows, and is now collecting appropriate film and video footage which could be included on a potential project."
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis POB Special Promo LP
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on: July 18, 2015, 08:11:20 AM
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300 were made according to Jon Stebbins. Oh yeah the handwritten DW promo of the POB LP is definitely rarer than the 91 CD, only 300 of those LP's were pressed (most also have "advance copy" on the label which is different from the regular white label promo), at least a few thousand of the 91 CD were distributed.
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